Anyone here turboed their GT yet

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LesPaul
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Anyone here turboed their GT yet

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Ive noticed a few kits for the 2zz-GE, Im just wonder if anyone has turboed the GT or XRS ??
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Re: Anyone here turboed their GT yet (LesPaul)

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I thought the only turbo for the Vibe was the one staffort was bulding? I could be wrong.
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Re: Anyone here turboed their GT yet (wicked1981)

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...I know what you mean. But I've looked a couple websites, such as XS-engineering.com and turbo-kits.com and they have kits for the 2zz-ge engine...just wondering is anyone did any custom work so it could fit a GT/XRS.BTW...anyone know or can point me in the direction where i can find out when this Stafford kit will be available, specifically for the Vibe GT.
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ask evenshall or drummerdude. they have had numerous correspondence w/ stafford on this.
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Re: Anyone here turboed their GT yet (LesPaul)

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Quote, originally posted by LesPaul »...I know what you mean. But I've looked a couple websites, such as XS-engineering.com and turbo-kits.com and they have kits for the 2zz-ge engine...just wondering is anyone did any custom work so it could fit a GT/XRS.BTW...anyone know or can point me in the direction where i can find out when this Stafford kit will be available, specifically for the Vibe GT.I e-mailed them yesterday and they told me in a couple weeks
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Re: Anyone here turboed their GT yet (LesPaul)

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Quote, originally posted by LesPaul » BTW...anyone know or can point me in the direction where i can find out when this Stafford kit will be available, specifically for the Vibe GT.http://www.staffordfabrication...enu=1
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Re: Anyone here turboed their GT yet (MoonDogg)

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..thanks guys. I'll be looking for it
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Post by Evanshall »

keep looking around this part of the furoms, youll find some useful knowledge, keep in mind if you do go throught with it our final gear(6th gear) has been snapping at about 280 wheel horse power, but A. theres a replacement now made for it thats stronger, and B. a safe 250 wheel horse power is still a hell of alot of power, with a estimated 14% power losse to tranny thats about the same as a company making a car that reads about 285 hp!! keep in mind we start with 157 wheel horse power on the GTs(180hp is to crank) blah blah!! anywaysim wimpping out of the turbo scene for now(no money,still warrenty, need car to replace if something goes wrong), so i salute you for your bravery if you get the chance to go through with it!
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...Just gathering info. Im in the same situation as you Evanshall !! I dont have 5 grand to spend on the turbo, Ive got an extened warrenty id rather not void and I need my car everyday. But perhaps when our warrenties run out there might be a turbo that has been tried and tested for the GT..
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Evanshall, Get your stuff strait. We give you good info and you spin it around. The final drive is a constant ratio that is always in use AFTER the 6th or any other gear including reverse. The correction is for those following this thread. Please check before you make statements. Opinions ar OK but bad facts are not. I'm no mechanic either but this is the easy stuff. Ask your dad, sounds like he could help you out.
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i defenetly talk to much, sorry about thati uderstand now, i deffenetly was wrong on that one, when i was reading through it i was ona time budget as well as i was in a welsh library being pressured off a computer(just got back from UK)i read 6 speed gear and 5 speed gear at from the one link and assumed final gear meant last gear in gearbox, not axle gear whatnot, eitherway they have a replacement for it
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Re: Anyone here turboed their GT yet (wicked1981)

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Quote, originally posted by wicked1981 »I thought the only turbo for the Vibe was the one staffort was bulding? I could be wrong.XS Engineering has applied one to a MAtrix XRS - Sport Compact Mag's "Project Matrix". I posted the link around here somewhere..
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yah there hp resaulst were good, but a 14.7 1/4 mile is nothing special for something supposidly running 230 whp, especially when a celica owner got his 2zz celica to do 1/4mile in 13.7 with natraul asp and a high end tune up with Apexi power FCXS is ok, but it costs 2k more, and stratford is supposed to be able to weild higher numbers then 230 easily
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Quote, originally posted by Evanshall »yah there hp resaulst were good, but a 14.7 1/4 mile is nothing special for something supposidly running 230 whp, especially when a celica owner got his 2zz celica to do 1/4mile in 13.7 with natraul asp and a high end tune up with Apexi power FC.Its also weighs less than the Vibe/Matrix.
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yah but not that much, plus its got proper motor mounts, and drag radials(in reference to 13 seconand celica) and the apexi tuning allows the 2zz to go to redline at 8600, a 2800 pound S2000 can do(same wieght as GT, actually heavier then Base 5spd) can do high 13s, with about 40 less whp then what faultline and devlop are estimating they haveif i remember right jeff said he couldnt floor it until 15mph because he simply didnt have the traction(sorry if im wrong here, but i beleive he said that), if you took the time to set these cars up im almost sure you could get well into the 13s, especially if they are running about 230whp
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Has anyone installed an LSD on one of these high output engines? I know that has helped a lot of FWD cars like the '04 Neon.
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Quote, originally posted by mu_ohio »Has anyone installed an LSD on one of these high output engines? I know that has helped a lot of FWD cars like the '04 Neon.I wanted to so badly when I put mynew clutch in...Its just that the LSD I wanted costs 1100.00!!! Plus they have to open the tranny to install one.....My new clutch and flywheel costed enough ....next time!!
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Quote, originally posted by Fialchar »http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=11653I still can't believe that they only could get a 14.7@98.9 quarter mile when the car was putting out 231ph at the wheels.
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Quote, originally posted by Faultline »I wanted to so badly when I put mynew clutch in...Its just that the LSD I wanted costs 1100.00!!! Plus they have to open the tranny to install one.....My new clutch and flywheel costed enough ....next time!!I think that's the cost is pretty much inline. I know that having one in my current car makes a world of difference.
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Quote, originally posted by mu_ohio »I think that's the cost is pretty much inline. I know that having one in my current car makes a world of difference.Is it me or does it seem kinda weak. According to trdvibe with a CAI, Exhaust, and Unichip you should be looking at around 215hp so it went up to 235hp with a turbo an extra 20hp for a turbo??? Now I now it was only at like 7psi but still seems like its not enough for what you will pay for the kit but I guess with the right set up it will be worth it for some of the GT owners.
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Quote, originally posted by wicked1981 »Is it me or does it seem kinda weak. According to trdvibe with a CAI, Exhaust, and Unichip you should be looking at around 215hp so it went up to 235hp with a turbo an extra 20hp for a turbo??? Now I now it was only at like 7psi but still seems like its not enough for what you will pay for the kit but I guess with the right set up it will be worth it for some of the GT owners.I was actually referring to the LSD.
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Quote, originally posted by wicked1981 »Is it me or does it seem kinda weak. According to trdvibe with a CAI, Exhaust, and Unichip you should be looking at around 215hp so it went up to 235hp with a turbo an extra 20hp for a turbo??? Now I now it was only at like 7psi but still seems like its not enough for what you will pay for the kit but I guess with the right set up it will be worth it for some of the GT owners.Actually wicked... whats 215 crank horspower which might only be around 175 or 180 wheel horsepower (the car starts with around 156 whp I believe) So really the turbo gain is around 40 some WHP which might be something like 70 crank hp. I would say that measuring crank HP is pretty pointless though considering what touches the ground is the wheels so the hp at that point is more important.
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Quote, originally posted by Smokin' Rubber »Actually wicked... whats 215 crank horspower which might only be around 175 or 180 wheel horsepower (the car starts with around 156 whp I believe) So really the turbo gain is around 40 some WHP which might be something like 70 crank hp. I would say that measuring crank HP is pretty pointless though considering what touches the ground is the wheels so the hp at that point is more important.Ahh I see. My bad.
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It's good man I know I had no idea what the difference was about 6 months ago either.There is 3 main kinds of horsepower:-Crank horsepower (this is like the factory's came of what the horsepower is and is measured at the crank like you would think)-Brake horsepower (this is just some other measure of hp which is measure at the end of the drivetrain)-Wheel horsepower (this is the amount of hp that actually makes it from the engine and is put to the pavement which is what you get when you do dynos)*If I'm wrong just correct me but I believe that is the general basis for the different kinds of horsepower
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Quote, originally posted by Smokin' Rubber » It's good man I know I had no idea what the difference was about 6 months ago either.There is 3 main kinds of horsepower:-Crank horsepower (this is like the factory's came of what the horsepower is and is measured at the crank like you would think)-Brake horsepower (this is just some other measure of hp which is measure at the end of the drivetrain)-Wheel horsepower (this is the amount of hp that actually makes it from the engine and is put to the pavement which is what you get when you do dynos)*If I'm wrong just correct me but I believe that is the general basis for the different kinds of horsepowerI knew this but I thought the turbo 235hp was at the crank. It is about a GT (i have base) so wasnt really paying that much attention.
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oh lol good point wicked, just like whenever I see base stuff I just kind skim over not looking to carefully either (since it doesn't pertain to my car really)
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Quote, originally posted by Smokin' Rubber »oh lol good point wicked, just like whenever I see base stuff I just kind skim over not looking to carefully either (since it doesn't pertain to my car really) Glad to know Im not the only 1.
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