anyone running nitrous on their gt 6 speed?

VibeGt6speed · Post by **VibeGt6speed** » Sat May 01, 2004 11:51 am

hey im in a bit of a competition at the moment with my buddies 96 VR6 with a few mods, last weekend he laid down a 15.0 flat. So I must beat this!! My car is a '03 Gt 6 speed and was thinking of adding a nitrous kit, i looked around on new celica but was wonder if anyone has a 50 shot on their vibe dry or wet? and what 1/4 mile times are you laying down

dmitri · Post by **dmitri** » Sun May 02, 2004 9:55 am

i ran a 14.9 with intake, exhaust, port and polish (of TB and intake manifold matching), motor mounts, and brass shifter bushings. 14.9 is the best i think i will run with these mods. With a 50 shot i think i can run low 14's

dsegundo · Post by **dsegundo** » Sun May 02, 2004 2:27 pm

Wow....NOS on a vibe? That's a go kart from hell!!! :DWonder what that'll cost

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Sun May 02, 2004 9:46 pm

There is someone here that runs nos but I forget who.Damn that would be awsome though

4X4CHICHI · Post by **4X4CHICHI** » Mon May 03, 2004 1:09 am

wasn't it savedbyzero? or is his turboed?

AKLGT · Post by **AKLGT** » Mon May 03, 2004 1:34 am

no, i think it might be satur9? can't remember. look up NOS in the search feature.

GT-X · Post by **GT-X** » Tue May 04, 2004 11:04 pm

check over at http://www.matrixowners.com I'm almost positive that somebody over there has NOs on a 2zz.

VibeGt6speed · Post by **VibeGt6speed** » Thu May 06, 2004 10:21 am

well i ordered a wet kit, we'll see what happens

savedbyzero · Post by **savedbyzero** » Thu May 06, 2004 10:30 am

No. It's not me with the kit. Too scarey! being it's the only car my wife and I have!Here's a quote from an owner of an XRS who lost his motor:"Hey guys,.. hopefully someone can help with this issue,.. I have a 2003 Matrix XRS Automatic,.. I have 60shot of Nos fogger,..Greddy Evo exhaust, Unorth Pulleys, SAFC 2, and Injen Intake. Ive taken it to the track and ran 14.9, 14.7 and 15.1. 2 weeks after the track my oil pump blew and caused my engine to Cease. I paid $5,000 for another engine and 2 weeks after I got that back the Oil pump blew again. now I only drove it about 1/2 mile back home and when toyota took the car it they said I need a new motor. I need to know why my oil pump keep blowing on this motor,. I cant afford another $5,000 on an engine. Ny suggestions?"Also,vibegtweee! over at matrixowners is squeezing. He's supposedly runnin' 14.4-6's. Not sure on his shot, though.I would make sure you've got some sort of fuel management. We're already pushing 11.5:1 compression ratio. Adding a 50 shot is gonna really be pushing the compression up there. Plus the weakest link of all...the oil pump.I would think you're gonna be hitting the rev limiter DANG fast in first! Hope you can shift that beast with quickness!

wicked1981 · Post by **wicked1981** » Thu May 06, 2004 10:44 am

Quote, originally posted by savedbyzero Â»No. It's not me with the kit. Too scarey! being it's the only car my wife and I have!It's vibegtweee! over at matrixowners. He's supposedly runnin' 14.4-6's. Not sure on his shot, though.I would make sure you've got some sort of fuel management. We're already pushing 11.5:1 compression ratio. Adding a 50 shot is gonna really be pushing the compression up there.I would think you're gonna be hitting the rev limiter DANG fast in first! Hope you can shift that beast with quickness!I thought someone said a 50 shot would be safe on the Vibe.. Ahh maybe Im wrong.

savedbyzero · Post by **savedbyzero** » Thu May 06, 2004 10:45 am

Read my edited post above...He has now blown 2 motors...

VibeGt6speed · Post by **VibeGt6speed** » Thu May 06, 2004 10:48 am

looks like ill be the guinea pig

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Thu May 06, 2004 11:41 am

Looks like you are, good luck and let me know when the test is, I'd like to see that.

GT-X · Post by **GT-X** » Fri May 07, 2004 12:31 am

The oil pump taking a poo has nothing to do with the NOS. I think it was Pablo1669, had the same problem with his motor/oil pump, I'm pretty sure it was his Unorthodox pullies and the lack of a harmonic stablizer, that fried his oil pump, here's the thread http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=8512

Pablo1669 · Post by **Pablo1669** » Fri May 07, 2004 2:20 am

yeah, that would be me... Tell him to get those damn pulleys off his car before he wastes tooooo much more of his money

savedbyzero · Post by **savedbyzero** » Fri May 07, 2004 2:52 am

Actually the nitrous would affect the oil pump. The more power, the more stress, the more oil that has to be pumped through the engine. The pump can only do so much. When it lets go, so does the motor! I realize the pulleys have also been an issue....Just saying the oil pump is the weak link of our motors. however, there is an upgraded oil pump that can be bought to avoid this.

drummerdude · Post by **drummerdude** » Mon May 10, 2004 6:49 am

Quote, originally posted by VibeGt6speed Â»hey im in a bit of a competition at the moment with my buddies 96 VR6 with a few mods, last weekend he laid down a 15.0 flat. So I must beat this!! My car is a '03 Gt 6 speed and was thinking of adding a nitrous kit, i looked around on new celica but was wonder if anyone has a 50 shot on their vibe dry or wet? and what 1/4 mile times are you laying downI've been thinking about doing this. and as far as fuel mgmt... i wonder if the unichip can be tuned for nitrous... it should be able to as long as the nitrous isn't like a "go baby go" button and is automatically released during hard acceleration. Maybe i'm talking out my (removed) and have no idea what i'm saying!

wicked1981 · Post by **wicked1981** » Tue May 11, 2004 12:34 am

What about this? Has anyone tried it? Would it work? How good? http://www.zex.com/store/merch...e=EAA

drummerdude · Post by **drummerdude** » Tue May 11, 2004 4:54 am

Wouldn't this cause a problem with the Mass airflow sensor as most nitrous systems are installed after the MAF. Am i right or way off?

satur9 · Post by **satur9** » Tue May 11, 2004 6:52 am

the nitrous is supposed to be placed about 8 inches from the throttle body,but i dont know anyone or seen any pictures of it before the maf sensor so i dont know if that zex kit would harm it but i would think not they had to test it.the nitrous is hooked up to the throttle switch and only comes on when you floor it. though the unichip can add rpm activation and possibly fuel management on dry kits(would take a lot of tuning) zex wet kit seems like a pretty good kit. newcelica.com has plenty of 2zzs with nitrous and god info check them out. with premium gas a fifty shot is safe on almost every car including the 1zz and 2zz.i have a 1zz but my kit work fine. but it will kill a stock clutch quick.

goodvibe · Post by **goodvibe** » Tue May 11, 2004 9:11 pm

That guy with the auto XRS and nitrous is breaking oil pumps because of his unorthodox pullies and not the 50 shot. 2zz's and crank pulleys don't get along. The crank becomes undamped and the oil pump shaters. The motor won't last as long overall with constant use of nitrous but a wet system should hold up well. A wet sysyem supplies both the extra fuel(wet) and oxygen(nitrous) needed and doesn't use the MAF.

Pablo1669 · Post by **Pablo1669** » Tue May 11, 2004 10:26 pm

Quote, originally posted by goodvibe Â» The crank becomes undamped and the oil pump shaters. Also, after the oil pump shatters, you'll need to clean all that metal out of your engine. The dealer replaced my oil pump, started it up, and within 2 minutes of running, the new oil pump shot out because of pieces of the old one still in the systemQuote, originally posted by goodvibe Â» A wet sysyem supplies both the extra fuel(wet) and oxygen(nitrous) needed and doesn't use the MAF.I've always wondered the diff between wet and dry systems, I just never took the time to read up on them. I'm guessing the dry system only supplies the nitrous and doesn't deal with any fuel management (creating the need for better, stand-alone fuel management)?

drummerdude · Post by **drummerdude** » Tue May 11, 2004 11:58 pm

[QUOTE=Pablo1669]Also, after the oil pump shatters, you'll need to clean all that metal out of your engine. The dealer replaced my oil pump, started it up, and within 2 minutes of running, the new oil pump shot out because of pieces of the old one still in the system[QUOTE]This happened to my brothers car... his oil light had been on for like 2-3 months, but he couldn't see it because a picture of his girlfriend was blocking the light... so needless to say he ran with hardly any oil for like 2 weeks until he noticed his engine was lagging and over heating(friction) they took it to the shop, had to flush the oil system several times to remove all the metal "shavings" from the oil system. I almost beat him myself for being such an idiot... and now, he doesn't get oil changes, he just adds a quart about every 1,000 miles or so he says... "Its in constant circulation, no need for an oil change" I'm like OIL FILTER!!

drummerdude · Post by **drummerdude** » Fri May 14, 2004 12:32 pm

any updates on getting/installing the shot of nitrous?

VibeGt6speed · Post by **VibeGt6speed** » Mon May 17, 2004 11:24 am

the guy i bought it from flaked i just noticed the refund in my paypal account

AKLGT · Post by **AKLGT** » Mon May 17, 2004 11:44 am

bummer! atleast he refunded your money tho!

marlborocowboy82 · Post by **marlborocowboy82** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 4:11 pm

check out this kithttp://www.holley.com/HiOctn/P....html$1300 kit thoe and not sure if you have to replace your fuel pump and ingecters still resarching to make sure it's safe and reliable a lot of money thoe for a few more horses but cheaper than the supercharger

AKLGT · Post by **AKLGT** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 4:31 pm

yes that's a lot of money for just a burst of extra power. i think a lot of people here are wanting a more constant surge of power, not just a one time shot. if you are looking to add nos to your gt, i think there's a guy in canada that did on his. forget what his name it. sorry. if you do a search on nos, you'd probably find it tho.

Evanshall · Post by **Evanshall** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:15 am

i know nothing about NOS really, but cant you get the bottles refilled after your shots done, and how much does that cost for a refill on a 50 shotim starting to think i might be putting new oil pumps, and clutches in my vibe before exhaust and instakes hehe, i want my honey to last

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