CAI question

meathead333 · Post by **meathead333** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 8:32 am

ok, i know theres tons of posts about CAI's, but i am to lazy to read thru all of them for a pretty simple anwser. My question is:for those who have a base vibe with a CAI, can you really feel any difference in performance? i know for gt owners, they say at 5000 rpm's they feel a difference or something like that. but how does having a auto feel with a CAI?? is it worth the money?would that AEM intake work on the vibe base? (the one being advertised in the for sale forum)hope my non-mechanical educated question made sense. thanks

meathead333 · Post by **meathead333** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 2:48 pm

anyone out there?

drunkenmaxx · Post by **drunkenmaxx** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 10:41 pm

i have awd, and i would say that in the power band, the change is great, not to mention the sound. it also seems to go off the line a bit better as well. get it, as long as you can afford it, you won't be sorry.

pwarren4 · Post by **pwarren4** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 12:00 am

Along with Methead I'm also to lazy to search.I've come to the conclusion that CAI's are worth the money in performance gains but I have a real concern about possible engine damage due to water intake.Has anyone here experienced this? Is it something worth being concerned about? Like I said, I like the idea of a CAI, but I can't render Slick useless on rainy days - my boss just wouldn't understand.

millster · Post by **millster** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 12:09 am

I stand by my previous statements on the subject. There's almost nothing to worry about. Just avoid large puddles and you should be fine. In order to suck up any significant amount of water, you would need to completely submerge the filter in water. Take a look at the front of your Vibe, and near at the top of the cladding on the front. That's about where the water would have to get to in order to have any concern. If you don't think you'll ever drive through anything that deep (I know I wouldn't) go buy a CAI.

drunkenmaxx · Post by **drunkenmaxx** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 12:26 am

i have hit puddles that soar 10 ft into the air when i hit them, no problems whatsoever

meathead333 · Post by **meathead333** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 12:52 am

ok all thanks for info. i d just like to know if the AEM short ram would work on the vibe. anyone know?

millster · Post by **millster** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 1:04 am

As long as it's made for a Matrix XR or Base or Base Vibe, yes. It will work just fine. I can't tell from any of the photos posted in the for sale forum if it is or not though.

meathead333 · Post by **meathead333** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 1:07 am

ok thanks. he said its for a base or xr, but you never know. i guess ill have to wait and see for sure. now, i just have install it. hopefully i can figure it out. never worked on a motor before. but, i have jesus!

millster · Post by **millster** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 1:10 am

Excellent! As long as the intake is right for the car, you won't have any trouble installing it. The short-ram should be simple to put in. The CAI was fairly easy, and it's a much more involved process. Congrats on the purchase!

drunkenmaxx · Post by **drunkenmaxx** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 1:45 am

quote:ok thanks. he said its for a base or xr, but you never know. i guess ill have to wait and see for sure. now, i just have install it. hopefully i can figure it out. never worked on a motor before. but, i have jesus!let jahova guide you my son! it will be a snap, i am capable of installing it and i couldn't even change a spark plug

meathead333 · Post by **meathead333** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 1:50 am

heres a dumb question. are all intakes the same more or less if they are made for the specific car? like the aem short ram and the injen one, do they add the same performance level?

drunkenmaxx · Post by **drunkenmaxx** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 1:52 am

i don't know squat, but from the looks of the others, my assumption would be yes. they are all the same size tube (the size of the intake hole thingy)

millster · Post by **millster** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 2:04 am

quote:heres a dumb question. are all intakes the same more or less if they are made for the specific car? like the aem short ram and the injen one, do they add the same performance level?I haven't seen any dyno results for the short-rams, but the CAIs are pretty close to the same. I would think this should be the same for the short-rams (AEM should be similar in power to the other short-rams). You won't get as much power out of a short-ram as a CAI, but it should still be quite a change from stock.

meathead333 · Post by **meathead333** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 2:20 am

oh. that sucks, i figured they were all they same. is there a place to get estimated HP from all the different intakes for vibes? or anyone know about how much the AEM short ram adds?

drunkenmaxx · Post by **drunkenmaxx** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 2:26 am

not from my own knowlege, but from a previous thread, it was stated that the cai vs short ram has little or no difference in gain. it was said that the air from the cai isn't significantly cooler than the short ram, at least not enough for a performance gain. the cai is quoted as adding 8hp to the wheels.(that's what injen says)

millster · Post by **millster** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 3:27 am

I agree for the most part. I still maintain that a short-ram does not afford the same increase as a CAI. Is the difference significant? Probably not. Meathead, I think you'll enjoy this intake just fine. Even if it's not the same gain as another intake, I think you'll be just as happy and you've saved a pile of cash.

AKLGT · Post by **AKLGT** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 3:23 pm

if i remember correctly it was about a 3-4 hp difference b/w short and full CAI. I wish I had the short so it would be easier to deal with. I have the TRD CAI on mine.

shibaman · Post by **shibaman** » Tue Sep 30, 2003 8:53 pm

I Wa. it would not make as big a difference as for me in HOT Ca. A short ram sucks in heat from the engine compartment vs. cold air from the bumper so you always get more HP in the summer from a cai. For me only a cai would work.

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