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glennpert
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Supercharger

Post by glennpert »

Can anyone who has a supercharger plz tell me the pro's and con's in your opinion? Also how much are they going for now?
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Post by 04chargedvibe »

well the obvious pros are the gains you get from it. hes more pep to it. and unless you have a heavy foot like me you should really loose gas mileage. they're going to be hard to come by since they stopped making em for the vibe
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pros:little more powerit whines in a way that doesnt irritate you better gas mileage (if driving for it)cons:needs maintenance (usually 80-100k miles coupler and oil)another part to breakfull kits are hard to findnot super expensive anymore but they are usually 100-1500. Need to make sure you get the right pcm or a piggy back to tune with.
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they run 1500-2500 now... most who own them have modified them and added better engine management and they are all used and hard to come by now. Which is why they cost more now.pros, easy to installMinor HP gainbasicly reliable if you maintain it.cons,minor HP gain and really no room for improvement.No parts, or hard to find parts if something breaks.crappy gas mileageheat mongor
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Pros:*Improved performance across the entire RPM range. Ups the fun factor dramatically.*Will shave about 2 seconds off your 0-60 time and almost as much off your 1/4 mile time (Stock I ran 17.8, best w/SC 15.9 with some wheel spin. Could probably pick up a bit more with a set of sticky tires.)*No real impact on milage if you keep your foot out of it (good luck). Expect 27 MPG city, 32-33 MPG highway when driving normally. *Sounds fantastic when boosting.*Ability to spin the wheels through first off the line at will.*Passes emission testing here in IL.Cons:*Hard to find complete kits in good shape.* Best 1/4 mile time 15.9. Real performance cars will walk you. (Though you can surprise a lot of the posers/ricers)* Potential power gains are very limited when compared to a good turbo set-up.* Well driven GT's/XRS's will pull you on the top end.
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Post by sikvibe »

Superchargers have better driveabilityMore low end pep and more linear powerTurbos have more top end power but less control over it..also turbos are not parasites like supers and tend to give better mpg's
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Cool thanks alot everyone! I had no idea they stopped making them though... havnet looked in a while.
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Quote, originally posted by sikvibe »Superchargers have better driveabilityMore low end pep and more linear powerTurbos have more top end power but less control over it..also turbos are not parasites like supers and tend to give better mpg'sthis is total bs on the low end of a turbo. If sized correctly a turbo will be at full spool at 1500-2000rpm. If you go nutz with a huge turbo yes it will take it till 3500-4500 to be at full spoolWhat do you mean by "less control"? Other than that, you are correct.
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You are the mechanical authority keith, what mods are on your car? Oh, thats right, all show and no go...keithvibe vibe of the year..ha!
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Quote, originally posted by sikvibe »You are the mechanical authority keith, what mods are on your car? Oh, thats right, all show and no go...keithvibe vibe of the year..ha!Really?currently in the workscare to put your foot in your mouth again?
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Quote, originally posted by keithvibe »Really?currently in the workscare to put your foot in your mouth again?BURN!!!
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is that a k03/k04 sized turbo?
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(removed)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nicely played Keith
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Quote, originally posted by sikvibe »You are the mechanical authority keith, what mods are on your car? Oh, thats right, all show and no go...keithvibe vibe of the year..ha!Which one of my above statements are incorrect?You talk, now it's time to back it up.Just because one doesn't have a Supercharger doesn't mean they don't know diddly about them. So tell me which one of my statements is incorrect?Heck you proved one of my statements by making your poorman spacer.
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Post by sikvibe »

yeah, bravo keef, you da man! you totally got me, way to be all you can be...
*03 SIKVIBE*Performance mods in order:18x8 Konig illusion rims w/ falken ziex 235/40R18 tires~1.5" lowered TEIN S. tech springs~GM performance parts supercharger~TRD add-on ECU for S/C~Drop in spectre high flow air filter~Tripod center dash oil pres.,egt/boost, a/f guage pod~Homemade .5" custom S/C thermal intake spacer~1.9" aluminum S/C pulley~150 psi>530cc nozzle water/alcohol injection system~2.5" single cat proflow muffler opposite exit install
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