Why couldn't you go to the Epic Meet?

BlueCrush · Post by **BlueCrush** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:39 pm

I wasn't able to go from the start since I had no available vacation time to take even one day off.Why couldn't you go? Pick one of the selections or add your own.What could be done differently to make the next Epic Meet more successful?

Baltovibe · Post by **Baltovibe** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:12 pm

It was a shame that gas shot up more than a $1 a gallon since the meet was first planned. Add that to the tolls and hotel costs, and I just could not justify the expense when the economy and job security are so perilous these days.

KNINE · Post by **KNINE** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:15 pm

Quote, originally posted by Baltovibe Â»It was a shame that gas shot up more than a $1 a gallon since the meet was first planned. Add that to the tolls and hotel costs, and I just could not justify the expense when the economy and job security are so perilous these days.What he said, except for the job security part.

bull77 · Post by **bull77** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:36 pm

i would have loved to go, but we had a BIG trip with the Vibe last year so we're keeping our summer vacations local

coldmm803 · Post by **coldmm803** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:14 pm

i need another option for:i'm unemployed since i graduated 2 months ago and live with my parents who keep me on a leash (not literally) and wouldn't let me go even if i had the money hopefully something comes out of the interview if have within the next few days

engineertwin2 · Post by **engineertwin2** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:16 pm

1900 miles and not enough time off. I am going to Hawaii for my brother's wedding in September and I have a family reunion between Christmas and New Years. At 2 wks a year, just not enough time for me to also go to the epic.

NibCrom · Post by **NibCrom** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:19 pm

If I remember correctly, it was too long of a drive, but I don't recall the location.

ramenboy... · Post by **ramenboy...** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:44 pm

just couldn't get the time off. would have loved to get over there though

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:39 am

You guys had no plans on coming to alaska

ramenboy... · Post by **ramenboy...** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:41 am

Quote, originally posted by Mavrik Â»You guys had no plans on coming to alaskaahahahahah

Kevzaz · Post by **Kevzaz** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:54 am

I am probably the youngest member on here, (17) and you guys would look like pedophiles. That, and I am 17... and unable to drive to different states. AND my parents wouldn't let me. Valid Excuses?

VforVIBE · Post by **VforVIBE** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:19 am

I had to go to my soon-to-be sister in-law's Bachelorette party and bridal Shower.

KNINE · Post by **KNINE** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:23 am

Quote, originally posted by VforVIBE Â»I had to go to my soon-to-be sister in-law's Bachelorette party and bridal Shower. Are you going to wear a poofy pastel green dress in the wedding?

VforVIBE · Post by **VforVIBE** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:29 am

Quote, originally posted by K-NINE Â»Are you going to wear a poofy pastel green dress in the wedding? Poofy, noGreen, yes

KNINE · Post by **KNINE** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:32 am

No puffy sleeves or a big bow on the (removed)? What a shame.

millster · Post by **millster** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:46 am

From my perspective, what would have made it more successful (as far as my ability to be there) was for it not to be a 3 day drive. Seriously, though. Timing just didn't work for me to commit to such a long trip. Maybe at some point I'd be able to.

Kamikaze · Post by **Kamikaze** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:10 am

I voted for just having a baby and couldn't afford to do it... I really wanted to go, and originally planned on doing a mini vacation with the wife and one child, but then I got the news we were expanding the family, so I really couldn't have brought a 3 week old with us...

Renthorin · Post by **Renthorin** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:21 am

Because of my new puppies

tribalman · Post by **tribalman** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:09 am

i couldn't get time off. at first it was not having enough $$ but about 3 weeks before the event i had just enough to go so i was planning on attending again. but i found out at work that 3 people of the 10 we have in our department were on vacation and i had to cover their work while doing my own stuff too.

808 Vibes · Post by **808 Vibes** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:40 am

All right, who's the wise guy who chose 'sold the Vibe' LOL

Kari · Post by **Kari** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:42 am

From past experience, it seems like any time there are 40 people signed up for a meet about 15 show up. It's sad, but it's the truth. We opted out because it was our first anniversary and we wanted to go elsewhere.I wasn't sure from the beginning that it was going to be as "epic" as was thought...guess I'm just jaded from going to the MI meet after the "big" one with about 30 cars and GM there to give away prizes...and the next year we had very few people there, and the dealership did squat for us.

Toasted7 · Post by **Toasted7** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:16 am

Quote, originally posted by Kari Â»From past experience, it seems like any time there are 40 people signed up for a meet about 15 show up. It's sad, but it's the truth. I wasn't sure from the beginning that it was going to be as "epic" as was thought...guess I'm just jaded from going to the MI meet after the "big" one with about 30 cars and GM there to give away prizes...and the next year we had very few people there, and the dealership did squat for us.I was there, but I agree with Kari completely!

michaelgt · Post by **michaelgt** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:45 am

Quote, originally posted by HawaiiPontiacLover Â»All right, who's the wise guy who chose 'sold the Vibe' LOLIt was I! It has been a year since I sold the Vibe. I had been driving the Vibe, but replaced it with a Vue for my wife. I have driven the following vehicles in the last year:HHR, Lucerne, DTS, Sierra, Colorado, Express, Yukon, Suburban, and Aura.Additionally, it was 4H Fair week. I spent 9 days at the fair.

AKLGT · Post by **AKLGT** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:46 am

Quote, originally posted by Mavrik Â»You guys had no plans on coming to alaska+1

Sublimewind · Post by **Sublimewind** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:55 am

I can't vote on more than one thing.... Gas prices, car shows, distance, time off work,ect... all factored into it...

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:04 am

I'm going to keep my comments short and to the point, as not to get banned.The meet got started planning very close to a year in advance. Everyone had plenty of time to save a few bucks a week for gas money. So those who are using gas as your reason... Thats not valid. The 20-40extra bucks it would have cost, if you had to fill your tank 8times would have only been a few dollars.I personally filled my tank almost 5 times. Shame on those who signed up, then never bothered to follow threw.I drove over 600miles one way to make the meet. So I don't want to hear it. My father raised me to be a "man of his word" And that I was. I am sorry to say this but most genviber's who commit to doing something usually back out of it... why do you think there aren't any group buys?We had over 40 people sign up for an "epic" meet and 13 showed... I consider that a HUGE FAIL.To those who actually made the trip out, I COMMEND YOU! And THANK YOU!I suggest if someone wants to plan another "Car" meet to plan it in a town you can drive around in HAHAHA. To drive 1mile took like 30mins, thats just plan nuts!I attended to show my support of my fellow members and car lovers. However those who backed out, for what ever reason, I know where you stand now.This "epic" fail has left a very bad taste in my mouth. I have said what i needed to say... flame me if you must but I will not respond to any of them.Again Thank you for showing your support, for those who took the time to plan and show up. Thank you to Kevin, Mike, Joe for starting and finishing something. Thank you guys. I consider you guys truly good friends.

02csnow · Post by **02csnow** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:14 am

^^^^^^^ Agree 100% ^^^^^^^I had no vaction time to use. I took 2 days off without pay. So I lost money there. The gas money, I saved up through change from when I first said I would go. I had to make a stop on the way to the meet and spend some money to fix a chip I got in the windshield. All in all, when I got back, I was broke and in the hole. But it was all worth it to see some friends and enjoy time with others who share a passion through a car called a Vibe.

Kamikaze · Post by **Kamikaze** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:30 am

very well put Keith vibe. I agree with what you say.

Kari · Post by **Kari** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:45 am

Quote, originally posted by keithvibe Â»The meet got started planning very close to a year in advance. IMHO that is what did the attendance in. The headcount was taken too soon. Things can change a LOT for people in a year's time. Not to mention the ones that possibly just forgot about it or may no longer be as active on the site.The money situation in this country for a lot of people has changed a LOT in the past year, and not just because of gas. People who thought they would have the money a year ago might not now -- and not everyone wishes to go into debt over a Vibe meet. Let's not crucify them for making that decision, if that was how the cookie crumbled.It's great that there is a group that is that devoted -- but to expect every single person (or even a majority) on a list that was taken so far in advance to show up was simply unrealistic. The more realistic comparison would be to compare your "confirmed" list from a few weeks ago to those who attended. Most people can't truly commit to things like this more than a few weeks or a couple of months in advance.They tell you when you send out wedding or party invites (which are sent out 1-2 months in advance) to expect a 50% positive response rate...and for some of the people who RSVP with a "yes" to not show up...I would look at a meet to be about the same.

BlueCrush · Post by **BlueCrush** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:49 am

Well stated, Keith!

808 Vibes · Post by **808 Vibes** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:53 am

Quote, originally posted by michaelgt Â»It was I! It has been a year since I sold the Vibe. I had been driving the Vibe, but replaced it with a Vue for my wife. I have driven the following vehicles in the last year:HHR, Lucerne, DTS, Sierra, Colorado, Express, Yukon, Suburban, and Aura.Additionally, it was 4H Fair week. I spent 9 days at the fair. OK...so now who's the copycat wise guy who clicked on it. Now it says 2 votes LOL

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:56 am

I know with my comments I may tick off a few of you and may even lose a few as friends. But, it is what I felt and I needed to say. If you don't like it... tough noogies I have already had a few IM me with comments good and bad.. but you know what, last I checked, freedom of speech was still in effect.I hear enough BS from my government, didn't think I would hear it here too.

vhoward1122 · Post by **vhoward1122** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:15 am

Gee. What a bad attitude. Like Kari said, a lot of things can happen in a year to affect somebodies ability to attend. Get over it.I didn't sign up. It would have been 2,900 give or take a few hundred miles for me to go one way according to google maps. It would have ended up costing me almost $800 for gas.Perhaps west coast and east coast members can have their own seperate meets next time. I would drive 1000 miles one way to meet, but I won't drive 3000 miles one way. I only did that when I drove truck.

moongdss · Post by **moongdss** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:39 am

I tell you, as people started backing out, and my school bills got higher and higher along with gas, electric, rent, etc... I thought about backing out. BUT I felt that since I had signed up, I wanted to follow thru. I really wanted the chance to see other GenVibers in person, park next to some rad Vibes and get some nifty ideas (damn those red grounding cables!!!) Truthfully, had it been at the other location initially offered, I wouldn't have signed up. i would have waited until closer to the meet to decide altogether,That said, I'm in a different place than most. I have a stable job, expendible cashflow, no kids, no house, etc. Heck, I had a college class that ended on July 28th and I told my teacher when I started the class I'd miss the final because of a 'business trip', could I possibly take it early? Turns out they let me skip it altogether because my other grades were all As. Not everyone gets those breaks, so I would have felt lousy backing out.That's just me!! Your mileage may vary, and I understand why the people who worked so hard to organize it feel slighted. I thank you guys for the hand-holding too, I was completely out of my element and it was a great comfort to have such awesome people tell me where to go and what to do lolz!

Kevzaz · Post by **Kevzaz** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:15 am

I think I had a valid excuse. Then again, I didn't sign up. Soooo, lol. But Keithvibe is right. I live by him, he should have picked me up. =p (no pedo)

joatmon · Post by **joatmon** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:54 am

I never thought I could go, and if I had committed to go I would have had to cancel for higher priority personal matters. I know how I react to things, and honestly, if I had invested the time and money to attend only to find most people were no shows, I'd be bitter. I would have had jets of steam shooting out both ears all the way home.So for those that atteneded and thought it was worth the triop, that's great. For those that atteneded and are disappointed, I can certainly understand, and we're adults enough that you should be free to talk about that frustration. Maybe the wide area "epic" meet just isn't a viable concept for genvibers

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:47 am

Quote, originally posted by Kevzaz Â»I think I had a valid excuse. Then again, I didn't sign up. Soooo, lol. But Keithvibe is right. I live by him, he should have picked me up. =p (no pedo)could have left your vibe at my house and rode with me... don't hurt to ask a question ya know??

Kevzaz · Post by **Kevzaz** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:52 am

Uhh, I can see it now.'Mom, dad, I am going to go on vacation''with who?''Umm, some guy from the internet, he has a pontiac vibe too! were going to meet a lot of people with vibes!''you dumb?'

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:56 am

your hung up on this pedo stuff i can see.. nevermind

Kevzaz · Post by **Kevzaz** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:06 am

Haha, no I dont think your a pedo. But my parents wouldn't approve of me driving with someone who I met over the internet. =p

AKLGT · Post by **AKLGT** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:22 am

Quote, originally posted by Kevzaz Â»Uhh, I can see it now.'Mom, dad, I am going to go on vacation''with who?''Umm, some guy from the internet, he has a pontiac vibe too! were going to meet a lot of people with vibes!''you dumb?'my conversation to my parents 4 yrs ago:"Mom, Dad, I'm going to fly down to MI to go to the SuperMeet""you're doing what???""I'm going to be meeting up with some friends I met online that I've never met before in a place I've never been.""you're doing what???""and I'm going to share rooms with one of them who hopefully won't be some sort of murderer or psycho.""you're doing what??""but don't worry, because HE's going to come up here to visit first""Are you crazy?"

Mattsky · Post by **Mattsky** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:05 am

I'm a new Vibe owner so for me it was too short of notice to make the trip. I'd consider attending one in the future.

bull77 · Post by **bull77** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:28 am

Quote, originally posted by joatmon Â»I never thought I could go, and if I had committed to go I would have had to cancel for higher priority personal matters. I know how I react to things, and honestly, if I had invested the time and money to attend only to find most people were no shows, I'd be bitter. I would have had jets of steam shooting out both ears all the way home.So for those that atteneded and thought it was worth the triop, that's great. For those that atteneded and are disappointed, I can certainly understand, and we're adults enough that you should be free to talk about that frustration. Maybe the wide area "epic" meet just isn't a viable concept for genvibers+1 I never signed up originally b/c I knew I wasn't going to make it. I'd feel the same way Keith/Paul

vhoward1122 · Post by **vhoward1122** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:31 am

It is sad that more people didn't show up. However, plans do change. maybe they forgot to update everyone here if they were going or not.It's not really that big a deal. Life is too short to be bitter because someone didn't show up. Being a little disappointed? Yes. But bitter and upset? No.Berating people because they didn't come is really going to alienate them and they will not want to consider another meet.The people who showed up should have enjoyed themselves, then told everyone what they missed. And said how much they were missed.I couldn't come. Too far and wrong timing for me. However, that doesn't mean I wouldn't have liked to come.Lighten up. Being PO'd will only get you closer to an ulcer.Have a nice day!Vance

ajflan · Post by **ajflan** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:50 am

I was dissapointed about the turnout, but at the sametime, I had a blast. I really enjoyed the cars that were there, and I enjoyed taking a break from the ordinary for a few days.

kevera · Post by **kevera** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:05 am

Keith I couldn't agree more,well pointed out. Quote, originally posted by vhoward1122 Â»Gee. What a bad attitude. Quote, originally posted by vhoward1122 Â»It is sad that more people didn't show up. However, plans do change. maybe they forgot to update everyone here if they were going or not.It's not really that big a deal. Life is too short to be bitter because someone didn't show up. Being a little disappointed? Yes. But bitter and upset? No.Berating people because they didn't come is really going to alienate them and they will not want to consider another meet.The people who showed up should have enjoyed themselves, then told everyone what they missed. And said how much they were missed.I couldn't come. Too far and wrong timing for me. However, that doesn't mean I wouldn't have liked to come.Lighten up. Being PO'd will only get you closer to an ulcer.Have a nice day!VanceAs you make a somewhat decent point.big talk from a noob is not taken lightly,especially against a senior member.Watch your words buddy,as you will be flamed.I think it's time to teach the noobs some respect.

Post by **NSimkins** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 5:29 am

Quote, originally posted by ajflan Â»I was dissapointed about the turnout, but at the sametime, I had a blast. I really enjoyed the cars that were there, and I enjoyed taking a break from the ordinary for a few days.+1 Good attitude to have ajflan!

Kari · Post by **Kari** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:07 am

Quote, originally posted by kevera Â»big talk from a noob is not taken lightly,especially against a senior member.Watch your words buddy,as you will be flamed.I think it's time to teach the noobs some respect.This site doesn't operate that way -- vhoward has nothing to fear and hasn't said anything wrong. He is stating an opinion just like everyone else in this thread.

02csnow · Post by **02csnow** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:13 am

Quote, originally posted by Kari Â»This site doesn't operate that way.It seems like that with the Mods, and that is my opinion.

Kari · Post by **Kari** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:17 am

Quote, originally posted by 02csnow Â»It seems like that with the Mods, and that is my opinion.You are saying that the mods are flaming people? Or are somehow shutting out newbies? Can you cite some examples please?

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