vibe supercharger question ???

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bigboy_13_420
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vibe supercharger question ???

Post by bigboy_13_420 »

ima toyota corolla owner i know a guy who is selling a supercharger for a vibe so this is were my questions kiks in would a gm vibre supercharger kit fit a corolla since its the same engine and stuff of course i would have to use e-manage or something can any tell me ??? if it would work ??
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Re: vibe supercharger question ??? (bigboy_13_420)

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Quote, originally posted by bigboy_13_420 »ima toyota corolla owner i know a guy who is selling a supercharger for a vibe so this is were my questions kiks in would a gm vibre supercharger kit fit a corolla since its the same engine and stuff of course i would have to use e-manage or something can any tell me ??? if it would work ??It will fit if you have a newer 1zz (like 00-up I think). You need to make sure it is for your same transmission set-up (i.e. auto or manual) or the ECM won't work and you may also need different brackets if it is for an auto and you have a manual. You wouldn't need to use an eManage unless the ECM is messed up or something is wrong or missing. The ECU's are the same. Check with Toyota or TRD to be sure.Oh, and WELCOME TO THE SITE!
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Post by Lancer »

Yes it will work on a corolla. The installation instructions even had the corolla listed on the top with the matrix and vibe.
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Post by dpsbr »

another question the piggyback ecu in the gm kit what is the reason it will not work on an 05? Is it not just for the 5th injector?
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Quote, originally posted by dpsbr »another question the piggyback ecu in the gm kit what is the reason it will not work on an 05? Is it not just for the 5th injector?That is 1 of the problems, and yes, it is for the 5th injector. The other is you need an adapter plate b/c the Throttle is also different on the 05 and up Vibes. they changed from cable throttle to drive-by-wire throttles.
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Re: vibe supercharger question ??? (damronjr)

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Quote, originally posted by damronjr »That is 1 of the problems, and yes, it is for the 5th injector. The other is you need an adapter plate b/c the Throttle is also different on the 05 and up Vibes. they changed from cable throttle to drive-by-wire throttles.but... only on a select few 05 vibes have the cable throttles, but the majority have the DBW throttle.
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I know about the TB, I am debating between buying the kit from GM or TRD. The SC is about 1200 from TRD but what does it come with all the hardward to install, ie idler pulley, belt 5th inj ect....
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Post by northvibe »

the full SC kit should be like 2400 from a TRD site online, from TRD i think they are 2600. From GM the kit is like 3400. The kit has the SC, ecu, mounting stuff, everything for a install. the SC alone is just that and nothing else for that 1200.
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I am asking about the gm or TRD piggyback is there a reason it will not work on an 05vibe/matrix/corolla? Has anyone tried to use the supplied piggyback? It looks like to get all of the hardward to install the SC you get the Piggyback ECU. It does not matter which kit you buy GM or TRD, you get the ECU, the TRD kit is cheaper which does not make sense.
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Quote, originally posted by dpsbr »I am asking about the gm or TRD piggyback is there a reason it will not work on an 05vibe/matrix/corolla? Has anyone tried to use the supplied piggyback? It looks like to get all of the hardward to install the SC you get the Piggyback ECU. It does not matter which kit you buy GM or TRD, you get the ECU, the TRD kit is cheaper which does not make sense.From what I understand, the reason why the ECM's will not work in the newer Vibes is that the wiring and harness clips are different due to the changes they have made in the newer Vibes.
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Why does GM and TRD say you cannot run a CAI? If that is your Vibe it looks like you have one.
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Quote, originally posted by dpsbr »Why does GM and TRD say you cannot run a CAI? If that is your Vibe it looks like you have one.I do have one and you can use one, they just don't recoomend and won't warranty anything if you do use one. It can cause pinging if you don't use something like a water injection kit like I have.
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Post by Lancer »

The s/c runs the engine super pig rich (mostly from the 5th injector), it's not going to ping from just a cai.
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Quote, originally posted by Lancer »The s/c runs the engine super pig rich (mostly from the 5th injector), it's not going to ping from just a cai.True, but from what I've heard it is best to use a W/I kit with a CAI on the S/C. Maybe just a safety precaution, who knows.
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Post by northvibe »

WI is great to run in any car, specially FI cars lancer and damnronjr....everynight i dream of your guy's cars....i have a temple in my closet that i use to store all the pictures and shrines ha ha ha..... jk
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Quote, originally posted by northvibe »WI is great to run in any car, specially FI cars lancer and damnronjr....everynight i dream of your guy's cars....i have a temple in my closet that i use to store all the pictures and shrines ha ha ha..... jkNice, but THIS THREAD IS WORTHLESS WITHOUT PICS! lol
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ok I got my adapter plate today and I have been shopping on the net for TRD vs GM charger kits I found one for 2100 TRD manual but it says 03 is there a differece that anyone knows between 03 kit and 04 kit that I cant make work on an 05.I have no pics cause my car just has is stock except for KN filter Amsoil synthic oil and Bosch Plat +4 plugs
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you should check out 9thgencorolla.com... theres a guy on there who got an 03-04 to work on his 06. ill edit this post with the link right now.you can message him and see what he did/needed to get it to work.http://www.9thgencorolla.com/f...41058
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Post by northvibe »

diff between 03 and 04...hmm it might be just the ECU difference. I know for going DBW dont you need a aftermarket ecu (unichip, hydra, etc.) and the adapter plate. but i havent actually seen one installed on the dbw yet.
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Quote, originally posted by northvibe »diff between 03 and 04...hmm it might be just the ECU difference. I know for going DBW dont you need a aftermarket ecu (unichip, hydra, etc.) and the adapter plate. but i havent actually seen one installed on the dbw yet.Difference between 03/04, nothing that I know of. Difference between auto/manual, ECM and brackets!
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03 and 04 supposedly have different ECU/Fuel trim and one more minor difference.
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Post by northvibe »

dang it would be nice to know the specific differences, so i order the best one.
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Post by yeye »

Order the one for your specific year. If you got 03, go with 03. For 04, get 04.
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