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mcgusto82 · Post by **mcgusto82** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:20 am

last night i was at top of a hill. i manged to stall the car. but instead of starting the car up. since there was no one around. i put the car in reverse, and let it roll, poped the clutch and VROOM!!. started right up. i thought the days of push starting where long gone.

Toolman · Post by **Toolman** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:34 am

As long as the ignition is on you should be able to bump start just about anything, I used to to this to my Dad's Ranger all the time.

Raven · Post by **Raven** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:53 am

It's another advantage of the manual trasmission, if you have a hill or someone to push, a dead battery is not a problem.

GMJAP · Post by **GMJAP** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:58 am

Quote, originally posted by Sunny Â»It's another advantage of the manual trasmission, if you have a hill or someone to push, a dead battery is not a problem.I've yet to do this on my Vibe, but I'm kinda concerned about the impact of the new DBW throttle (esp in the case of a dead battery) on the ability to push start the new cars.Have you ever tried it in your 06?

Emerica13 · Post by **Emerica13** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:50 am

Pardon moi for my lack of knowledge, but what exactly is push starting and how do you do it?

Raven · Post by **Raven** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:55 am

Quote, originally posted by GMJAP Â»I've yet to do this on my Vibe, but I'm kinda concerned about the impact of the new DBW throttle (esp in the case of a dead battery) on the ability to push start the new cars.Have you ever tried it in your 06? I'll try it soon and let you know. You don't press the gas pedal when starting the car so the throttle is closed anyways. The DBW should not be a problem but it's an interesting thought.

Raven · Post by **Raven** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:02 am

Quote, originally posted by Emerica13 Â»Pardon moi for my lack of knowledge, but what exactly is push starting and how do you do it? Turn the key to the on position, put the car in neutral and get a push or start rolling down hill. When you are going about 5mph or so, push in the clutch, put it in 2nd gear and pop the clutch out and turn the engine over a couple of times, push the clutch in again and rev it up. If it didn't start, pop the clutch again. Don't leave the clutch engaged if the engine does not start or you'll lose all your rolling momentum and have to try again.

GMJAP · Post by **GMJAP** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:40 am

Quote, originally posted by Sunny Â» I'll try it soon and let you know. You don't press the gas pedal when starting the car so the throttle is closed anyways. The DBW should not be a problem but it's an interesting thought.Good point (about throttle being closed).

mcgusto82 · Post by **mcgusto82** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:20 am

i started in reverse. ofcourse i was rolling backwards.

Mr. Poopypants · Post by **Mr. Poopypants** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:42 pm

I had to do this with my Mazda MX-6 back in the day when my starter was going. Try doing it in gridlock in downtown Pittsburgh. YUCKY!

GMJAP · Post by **GMJAP** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:40 am

Quote, originally posted by Mr. Poopypants Â»I had to do this with my Mazda MX-6 back in the day when my starter was going. Try doing it in gridlock in downtown Pittsburgh. YUCKY!Yikes! Still, at least you could do it. (Imagine having an auto and needing a tow in the midst of gridlock. )

Mr. Poopypants · Post by **Mr. Poopypants** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:42 am

Quote, originally posted by GMJAP Â»Yikes! Still, at least you could do it. (Imagine having an auto and needing a tow in the midst of gridlock. )True, it was a pain because I was parallel parked, so on top of trying to push start it, I had to unpark my car too. I only had to do it twice though. Yeah, yeah, you think I would learn after doing it once that I should have it replaced.

GMJAP · Post by **GMJAP** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:58 am

Quote, originally posted by Mr. Poopypants Â»True, it was a pain because I was parallel parked, so on top of trying to push start it, I had to unpark my car too. I only had to do it twice though. Yeah, yeah, you think I would learn after doing it once that I should have it replaced.Yeah, but it when comes to facing the cost of automotive repairs, hope springs eternal. Especially that "maybe it'll hold out a bit longer...."

Mr. Poopypants · Post by **Mr. Poopypants** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:11 am

Quote, originally posted by GMJAP Â»"maybe it'll hold out a bit longer...." Yeah, well, it didn't.

Atomb · Post by **Atomb** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:48 am

Quote, originally posted by Mr. Poopypants Â»I had to do this with my Mazda MX-6 back in the day when my starter was going. Try doing it in gridlock in downtown Pittsburgh. YUCKY!consider yourself lucky that you were in the 'hills of pittsburgh' and not the 'flats' of indiana/ohio/etc.!!

mcgusto82 · Post by **mcgusto82** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:08 am

once had a 89 lebaron that died on me on a major street. had to push it out of the way. once i got it out of the way, it started. next day i went straight to the dealership. traded it. luckily the dealer wasn;'t aware of it's crappy engine.now that i think about it, i think the MAF was bad. easy fix.

Raven · Post by **Raven** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:49 am

Well, I bump started my '06 today and it started instantly. The battery was fully charged though so it does not answer that DBW question.

GMJAP · Post by **GMJAP** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:57 am

Quote, originally posted by Sunny Â»Well, I bump started my '06 today and it started instantly. The battery was fully charged though so it does not answer that DBW question.Thanks for trying and posting. I'm beginning to think it would be okay with DBW, since it doesn't require throttle to start. Once the engine turns over, the alternator will be supplying power.

cohocarl · Post by **cohocarl** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:01 am

Bumpstarting my first car, a 1964 VW (6 volt system) was a daily requirement.

mcgusto82 · Post by **mcgusto82** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:58 am

you can push start a car without a battery.

GMJAP · Post by **GMJAP** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:39 am

Quote, originally posted by mcgusto82 Â»you can push start a car without a battery.In general, yes. Question is..... is that still true with an electronic throttle? I think the answer is yes, but not sure....

cohocarl · Post by **cohocarl** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:21 am

Quote, originally posted by GMJAP Â»In general, yes. Question is..... is that still true with an electronic throttle? I think the answer is yes, but not sure....I'm just taking a guess, but on older, carb'ed, mechanical fuel pump, points equipped cars yes, but when we're talking electric fuel pumps, fuel injectors, mass air flow sensors, oxygen sensors, electronic ignitions is it possible?

ToolGuy · Post by **ToolGuy** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:04 am

You can start today's vehicles with bump starts as long as there is full electrical power... In the days of no computers and carburettors, a vehicle could be started without battery power... Throttle by wire has no effect on bumps again as long as there is electircal power it will start as the throttle knows there is power going to it.

mcgusto82 · Post by **mcgusto82** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:09 am

as long as you have the ignition switch on "on". and it's a stick. you should be able to start up. you roll. when you roll you rotate your driveshaft. engage gear. poping the clutch while in momentum will cause you engine to rotate. engine rotating, alternator rotating. this will provide elctricity.so no batery is required.

mcgusto82 · Post by **mcgusto82** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:13 am

throttle by wire is no factor. as you don't need to give the car gas to start. right??

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