Supercharger installed!

damronjr · Post by **damronjr** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:08 am

Sorry for the delay guys, still haven't made the movies, but here are the few pics I have. Working on the camera stand so I can video some cruising! This thing gets to 100mph quick now! Should be ordering the Boost Cooler water injection on Thursday, along with the JP headers, Hella horns from Mike, Oznium Flowlighting underbody neon kit, and Auto Trans cooler! And that will be that for what's left of my paycheck after bills! Without further adeau, heres the pics!Odo at time of install:The box was a lot bigger than I thought it would be!This would be why:The SC itself:Tearin' it up!The stock intake manifold (couldn't believe it was all plastic!):Gettin' it together:The boost gauge in it's temporary home(stalling! )Ta-da!Leftover parts!

ArcsVibe · Post by **ArcsVibe** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:13 am

Wow! Congrats again Jason, enjoy it bro

damronjr · Post by **damronjr** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:18 am

Thanks, Sam! Glad to have finally gotten it and thanks again to Andre for the install!

millster · Post by **millster** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:21 am

Very nice!Man, that makes me consider buying a base and supercharging it. There's a Mustang Cobra that's always pulling into the parking garage as I'm walking out and the whine of the S/C is just amazing.Enjoy it and thanks for posting photos of the install!

Toolman · Post by **Toolman** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:47 am

Have to get some videos of the car with the new blower! Enjoy!!!

POLO · Post by **POLO** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:54 am

Hey congrat,now you have one a hell vibe.I want to see a clip of your ride.

4X4CHICHI · Post by **4X4CHICHI** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:37 am

can't wait to hear it

Toasted7 · Post by **Toasted7** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:45 am

I'm impressed... can't wait to see what it does in the long run.Wish I could get a S/C for my '05!

BlueCrush · Post by **BlueCrush** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:46 am

Nice pics, Jason! Which ECU did you go with?

northvibe · Post by **northvibe** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:16 am

kick (removed)!! cant wait to hear this thing!

ColonelPanic · Post by **ColonelPanic** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:28 am

The one I heard on that matrix dude's car sounded like a vacuum cleaner.

AKLGT · Post by **AKLGT** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:39 am

nice! makes me miss the old vibe! lol. of course, we could always s/c or turbo mav's.

scherry2 · Post by **scherry2** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:40 am

excellent wish i could afford one right now!!

damronjr · Post by **damronjr** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:00 pm

Quote, originally posted by BlueCrush Â»Nice pics, Jason! Which ECU did you go with?Thanks everyone! It sounds awesome, loud-@$$ whine, just let's everyone know your boosted! Can't wait to take it to the track, but unfortunately they ran this past Fri and won't again until the Friday after next. That'll really show me what it's done when I can compare #'s. As for the ECU, I used the GM ECU that it came with for now, but still thinking of getting something different if it proves to be worthwhile. The only thing killing me now is the freakin' auto trans, I HATE THIS FREAKIN' TRANS! The shifts actually slow it down instead of speeding it up! I wish I knew how to drive a stick!

ColonelPanic · Post by **ColonelPanic** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:06 pm

The Vibe's automatic leaves MUCH to be desired, IMHO of course. Regardless of whether there's a supercharger bolted to the engine or not.

AKLGT · Post by **AKLGT** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:27 pm

Quote, originally posted by damronjr Â»Thanks everyone! It sounds awesome, loud-@$$ whine, just let's everyone know your boosted! Can't wait to take it to the track, but unfortunately they ran this past Fri and won't again until the Friday after next. That'll really show me what it's done when I can compare #'s. As for the ECU, I used the GM ECU that it came with for now, but still thinking of getting something different if it proves to be worthwhile. The only thing killing me now is the freakin' auto trans, I HATE THIS FREAKIN' TRANS! The shifts actually slow it down instead of speeding it up! I wish I knew how to drive a stick! well i know how to drive a stick, but i'm using the auto. atleast i have sport shift on mine that allows the ECU to rev just under redline perfectly every time. i strongly recommend getting better ECM than what came with the kit. you will get much much better gains. also have the car custom tuned (since you're in CA and i know there are tuners there) once you get all your goodies on the car. the subie guys keep beating me over the head about how i HAVE TO GET ECM'd! hopefully next spring i can afford it, but i'm going with simple like before (unichip for the vibe) and not doing all the super tuner stuff unless i go crazy in a few years and go all out. for daily driving however, i don't need a street tuning kit. if you want the best gains, and especially since you are investing so much $$ in the vibe, i'd definitely go with custom tuning!

damronjr · Post by **damronjr** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:31 pm

Quote, originally posted by trdvibe Â»if you want the best gains, and especially since you are investing so much $$ in the vibe, i'd definitely go with custom tuning!Yeah, but that's the thing, I really don't have all that much $$$ to spend on the car. If I was paying off my bills I wouldn't have any of this, but being the irresponsible person that I am I would rather spend my $$$$ on my car than my bills! And, as for custom tuning, I have given it thought but that's where $$$$ really comes into play, dyno time, and all that adds up fast!

BOZACK · Post by **BOZACK** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:43 pm

I really looks sweet. Wish I had the money to do such things. But I have other things that are more important, like a mortgage. Wouldn't it be cool if you could SC that Big Wheel.

damronjr · Post by **damronjr** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:47 pm

Quote, originally posted by BOZACK Â»Wouldn't it be cool if you could SC that Big Wheel. Haha, that's funny! I never even noticed it was there. That's Andre's!

northvibe · Post by **northvibe** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:15 pm

how much boost does it push stock?are there any shift kits that could add more a sport shift feel?you could always do that "manual" shift with ur foot off the gas, althou its not the greatest "manual" shift

Mase · Post by **Mase** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:13 pm

Congrats Jason. It's great to see another whiner driving around . Have you turned any heads yet with the sound?

Mr. Poopypants · Post by **Mr. Poopypants** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:13 am

I want.

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damronjr · Post by **damronjr** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:53 am

Quote, originally posted by Mase Â»Congrats Jason. It's great to see another whiner driving around . Have you turned any heads yet with the sound?Thanks! Yeah, it was funny, the day after I got it installed I had to go to work in the morning. My office is right inside the front doors with lots of windows facing the parking lot. As I was driving up I could see my boss inside and he is a tuner too but with bikes and he was waiting to see it. I mashed the gas as I pulled in the parking lot and all I saw was his head jerk and he started sprinting towards the door! Taking it to the track Fri 30th for Race-Legal.com. Can't wait to see how it improved my times!

AKLGT · Post by **AKLGT** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:07 am

Quote, originally posted by damronjr Â»Yeah, but that's the thing, I really don't have all that much $$$ to spend on the car. If I was paying off my bills I wouldn't have any of this, but being the irresponsible person that I am I would rather spend my $$$$ on my car than my bills! And, as for custom tuning, I have given it thought but that's where $$$$ really comes into play, dyno time, and all that adds up fast! ha ha ha! ya, we all handle stress differently. when i was going through my divorce, i spent over $10K on my Tundra rather than pay off bills, bought a $3000 laptop (i haven't owned for almost 2 years), took about 5 vacations a year, and frequently went "shopping" where i made a commissioned sales woman at Nordstrom a lot of money! do you know anyone who tunes their car? maybe they can help you.

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:36 pm

No fair! I should be up and running too! Alas, still waiting for Unichip to get their hed out of their (removed). So that's where the boost gauge hose goes. Cool!! Are ya gonna use the 'Supercharged' badges that came with your kit? I'm still debating to stay a 'sleeper' or to show off.Here's mine, Running, but not yet drivable (hopefully on Monday!). Just looks good. And Yes I know your supposed to disconnect the - post on the battery. It was just easier at the time to unplug the +.

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damronjr · Post by **damronjr** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:47 pm

Quote, originally posted by Lancer Â»No fair! I should be up and running too! Alas, still waiting for Unichip to get their hed out of their (removed). So that's where the boost gauge hose goes. Cool!! Here's mine, Running, but not yet drivable. Just looks good.Hope you get running soon. I can't wait to see some numbers so we can compare the GM ECU vs the Unichip. As for that gauge hose, the piece they put in the hole of the SC for a temporary plug can be a PITA to get out! I stripped the $hit out of the inside of the plug before managing to jam an allen wrench in there and get it to turn. Andre said he didn't have any problem at all with his, so I guess it'(removed) and miss. Lookin' good!

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:43 pm

Got everything installed and running! Finally boosted!! it's a blast! Love the sound of it the most! Even driving 'normally'. Just before my car shifts, you start to hear this pfssst sound from the s/c. A little like a BOV sound but not as loud or as sharp.

BlueCrush · Post by **BlueCrush** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:54 pm

Get some video if you can!

northvibe · Post by **northvibe** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:03 am

heck yes, im with bluecrush on this, video!!!

damronjr · Post by **damronjr** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:50 am

Glad to hear you're finally boosted Lancer! As for the videos, I took a couple of real short ones so far, but I'm waiting for Friday when I go to the track! Then I'll try to figure out how to 1) get them to th comp and 2) post them!

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 10:30 am

Good luck at the track. I'm having surgery done on Thurs. and the last track day of the season is next Fri. I'm not sure I'll be up for it, but I'll try.I tryed once to post a video and it wouldn't work. Maybe I can get a sound file to work for that pop off valve sound of mine.

Faultline · Post by **Faultline** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:17 pm

Quote, originally posted by damronjr Â»Glad to hear you're finally boosted Lancer! As for the videos, I took a couple of real short ones so far, but I'm waiting for Friday when I go to the track! Then I'll try to figure out how to 1) get them to th comp and 2) post them!what track are you going to??I heard carlsbad is closed now?

damronjr · Post by **damronjr** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 10:15 pm

Quote, originally posted by Faultline Â»what track are you going to??I heard carlsbad is closed now?It's at Qualcomm Stadium. It's sponsored by Race-legal.com. They do it like 2 Fridays most months depending on scheduling.

Psychobroker · Post by **Psychobroker** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:52 am

Grats Jason!

ArcsVibe · Post by **ArcsVibe** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 9:13 pm

So Jason this means the next time I'm in San Diego I can get the chance to experience the SupaCharger? lol Get us some damn videos for petes' sake!!!!

damronjr · Post by **damronjr** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:16 pm

Quote, originally posted by ArcsVibe Â»So Jason this means the next time I'm in San Diego I can get the chance to experience the SupaCharger? lol Get us some damn videos for petes' sake!!!! Come on down, Sam! Videos will be taken tonight provided I don't die sometime today of this stomach flu I got last night!

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:45 pm

Hehehe! You and me bro! Day after my surgery and I don't like it!! Can't even push out a fart to relieve some of the pressure!! Hehehe

drunkenmaxx · Post by **drunkenmaxx** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:53 pm

Quote, originally posted by damronjr Â» Videos will be taken tonight provided I don't die sometime today of this stomach flu I got last night!ooh be extremely careful when you cough!

BlueCrush · Post by **BlueCrush** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 8:42 am

How did it go at the track, Jason?

damronjr · Post by **damronjr** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 8:50 am

Quote, originally posted by BlueCrush Â»How did it go at the track, Jason?Wellllllll....... I wasn't overly happy, but I did do quite a bit better. 1st run sucked as I had a staging probelm and got the red light. 2nd run I just tried gunning it and still got smoked. 3rd and final run I tried a brake-stand and did better, but this f-in auto trans is killing me! I could literally feel the seconds lost waiting for the trans to shift and the supercharger to wind back up. Best time was 10.798@66.67mph 1/8th. Lost to an Acura I think who ran just ahead of me at 10.245@70.20. Finally got my reaction time to drop below a second to 0.985. 60ft was 2.614. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?

BlueCrush · Post by **BlueCrush** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 8:56 am

I think with most people the more you do it the better you'll get at it and your times will go down. Good reaction time and not too bad a 60' time. The most important thing is, did you have fun doing it?

damronjr · Post by **damronjr** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 9:10 am

Quote, originally posted by BlueCrush Â»I think with most people the more you do it the better you'll get at it and your times will go down. Good reaction time and not too bad a 60' time. The most important thing is, did you have fun doing it?1st run, NO! I was pretty pissed about that one. After that, it's fun, but it sucks getting beat all the time. If you can at least win every once in a while I think it would be a lot more fun. Most all of the cars that run out here are turbo'ed though, not to mention the fact that they are faster stock as well, so I really don't stand a chance regardless. Maybe if I can figure something out with the trans, find a way to push more boost, and perhaps removing the seats and stuff, I can find a way to get the times down some more. It's just so gay (no offense to anyone, just a term ) to hear that damn trans whining0forever to shift when all the others are dropping immediately. I know the only way I'll really be able to get anything worthwhile from the car is to either swap the engine/trans or go turbo, but I can't afford either!

BlueCrush · Post by **BlueCrush** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 10:18 am

Do what Lancer is doing. Install a W/I system and an AEM Tru-Power lightened/larger alternator pulley and it'll run 10 PSI. You'll be over 225HP and flying down the track

damronjr · Post by **damronjr** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 10:51 am

Quote, originally posted by BlueCrush Â»Do what Lancer is doing. Install a W/I system and an AEM Tru-Power lightened/larger alternator pulley and it'll run 10 PSI. You'll be over 225HP and flying down the track Got the W/I kit thanks to you! With the pulley I assume I will have to get a different belt as well?

BlueCrush · Post by **BlueCrush** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 10:54 am

I believe that lancer stated that he was able to use the S/C belt that came with it. Check his 10psi thread.

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 8:01 am

With the belt it was wierd. Without the s/c, I had the AEM alternator pully and the Unorthodox underdrive crank pully. Alt. pully is bigger than stock, crank pulley is smaller than stock. But I was able to use the stock sized belt. With the s/c I tried running with both pullies, but the belt that came with the s/c was too long (by 1 1/2"). I also only got 3-4 psi with this set up. That's not good enough for me (even though i could hang with a Cobalt SS). So I re-installed the stock crank pully and kept the alt. pully on thinking I'd get a little more the 7psi. I was TOTALLY suprised when I read the boost gauge at 10.5 almost 11psi! And It was all power! I'm going to race on the 7th, I'm sure I'll be in the 14s.(going after Faultlines record on Monkeywrench.com )After switching the crank pully I hoped that the belt that came with the s/c kit would work and luckily it was a perfect fit. I now have 5 belts for my car (one is worn w/50k miles)!A belt only cost $35. The AEM trupower alt. pulley cost I think around $80. That's not bad for 3 more usable psi from a stock s/c. But now I should (and gonna) get WI for $200. A little more power and insurance.

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 8:05 am

I like the numbers you stated! How did you get those? Does it take into account the intake,header, and exhaust. or just Supercharger numbers? I was thinking at least 200-210.

BlueCrush · Post by **BlueCrush** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 8:15 am

Typically you gain 10hp for every 1psi of boost. If the Vibe is 130 hp stock then you should realistically be around 230hp with your set-up.

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 8:18 am

That is for turbo, though. Your moving much more air @ 10psi with a turbo then you are with a s/c. Yes the psi is the same but the volume is not. I gotta find a Dyno around here!!

BlueCrush · Post by **BlueCrush** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 8:23 am

Yeah, but 1psi is 1psi thats why with a turbo you can go 20-30 psi gaining 200-300 hp. It's the same for both.Luckily you have a FWD and not an AWD so you shouldn't have problem finding a dyno nearby you. There is only 1 AWD dyno in Minnesota.