GM SUPERCHARGER now offered as a dealer install!

d_m_kolb · Post by **d_m_kolb** » Sun Oct 27, 2002 10:31 pm

Here's the info you all have been waiting for. ENJOY! quote:For Release: Oct. 28, 2002, 8 a.m. ESTContacts: Rebecca HarrisGM Service and Parts OperationsPhone: (810) 606-3114E-mail: rebecca.l.harris@gm.comKatie McBrideGM Service and Parts OperationsPhone: (810) 606-3101E-mail: katie.mcbride@gm.comPONTIAC VIBE GETS TUNED-UP AND DECKED-OUTTake a Pontiac Vibe, mix in a GM Performance Parts Supercharger, add a Vibe Sport Package and the result is a vehicle that is as unique as the person who drives it. This extra-sporty Vibe is more than willing to flex its more powerful muscles, delivering an extra 7.5 lbs. of boost and a significant bump in horsepower and torque.The supercharger's design is so well integrated it's hard to tell it's not original equipment. The Roots-type manifold design maximizes engine horsepower and torque without sacrificing durability. Precision vehicle calibration maintains driveability and enhances performance. Available on the base model, the supercharger increases Vibe's horsepower and torque up to 35 percent. The GM Performance Parts Vibe Supercharger has been extensively tested and tuned, resulting in a high-quality finished product that carries a warranty of 12 months or 12,000 miles from customer installation. When dealer installed, the warranty stretches to 36 months or 36,000 miles.GM Accessories worked closely with GM's vehicle line team to create the Vibe Sport Package, a ground effects package that melds flawlessly with the Vibe's original design. The fit and finish suggest this sporty Vibe just came off the line. The Sport Package will allow young buyers to personalize the Vibe with front and rear fascia extensions, side rocker extensions and upper and mid-gate spoilers. The rear spoilers also are available separately. This Vibe custom bodywork is available from GM Accessories in Salsa, Satellite and Abyss. It can also be ordered primed, allowing the customer to match other Vibe production colors. To complete the package, a polished stainless steel exhaust tip is also available. The GM Performance Parts Vibe Supercharger and Vibe Sport Package will both be available in the first quarter of 2003. Customers can order the Vibe Sport Package with their vehicle and finance it in their monthly payment. When they take delivery of their vehicle, the Sport Package will be installed by the dealer. SPO, headquartered in Grand Blanc, Mich., markets automotive replacement parts and accessories worldwide under the GM and ACDelco brand names. For more information, visit the GM Goodwrench Service Plus Web site at Goodwrench.com or call 1-800-GM USE US.General Motors (NYSE: GM), the world's largest vehicle manufacturer, designs, builds, and markets cars and trucks worldwide, and has been the global automotive sales leader since 1931. More information on GM can be found at gm.com.PONTIAC VIBE ACCESSORY HIGHLIGHTS:GM Performance Parts Vibe Supercharger with increased horsepower and torque up to 35 percentVibe Sport Package with front and rear fascia extensions, side rocker extensions and upper and mid-gate spoilers Info located here

d_m_kolb · Post by **d_m_kolb** » Sun Oct 27, 2002 10:59 pm

I should have pics posted in a few days. Mike will be traveling to SEMA next week and should be able to find out prices then. I'm not sure what engine this is for. 7.5 sounds ok for the 1ZZ but really high for the 2ZZ so my guess is this SC would be for the 1ZZ but I don't know for sure yet. This would bring the HP of the 1ZZ to around 180HP and the torque to around 170 ft lbs. A base Vibe with a SC would easily beat a GT.

NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Sun Oct 27, 2002 11:06 pm

quote:I'm not sure what engine this is for. 7.5 sounds ok for the 1ZZ but really high for the 2ZZ so my guess is this SC would be for the 1ZZ but I don't know for sure yet. This would bring the HP of the 1ZZ to around 180HP and the torque to around 170 ft lbs. A base Vibe with a SC would easily beat a GT.My whole reason for buying a base Vibe. I can't wait.I'd assume the option would be about $1,500 for the do-it-yourself kit; $2,000-2,500 installed.

MiamiVibe · Post by **MiamiVibe** » Mon Oct 28, 2002 2:35 am

MY GOD GM WOKE UP. Finally time to burn some Honda behind! They must have heard an ear full from nova and all the others that went to meet the engineers!

VibeInTx · Post by **VibeInTx** » Mon Oct 28, 2002 3:19 am

U think this will be compatible with the auto trans?

VibeInTx · Post by **VibeInTx** » Mon Oct 28, 2002 3:40 am

I called my dealer's service department. They didn't have any real info, but the guy said: "I think it's for the high output 1.8L engine". I interpretted that as 2zz.

kenshin138 · Post by **kenshin138** » Mon Oct 28, 2002 4:08 am

I e-mailed them and its for the 1ZZFE engine......

d_m_kolb · Post by **d_m_kolb** » Mon Oct 28, 2002 4:26 am

Looks like the 1ZZ will spankin some 2ZZ (removed) soon. Sorry GT owners had to say it. Aftermarket forced induction is in the works for 2ZZ owners though. Not sure if anything forced induction wise will ever come from the manufacturer though.Someone asked if it will work with a auto and the answer is YES.

NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Mon Oct 28, 2002 4:29 am

quote:Read the GM info announcement:"Available on the base model, the supercharger increases Vibe's horsepower and torque up to 35 percent."Think it's clear that it will be for the base model!Seemed obvious to me too.But just for a moment, think about that 35% increase. That means a base Vibe could rate as high as 175-hp and 170-tq. That's way more HP than my old Sunbird and almost as much torque (140-hp, 185-tq). I'd expect low 15's (possibly even a 14.99) for ET's. For my Vibe that would mean over a second and a half drop in ET. Well worth the price in my eyes.Available first quarter '03. That's right as my tax refund should be getting to me. Oh yeah!

yank dini · Post by **yank dini** » Mon Oct 28, 2002 4:38 am

Just in time for next summer!!!!!! Looks like the moderators can finally update the news tab up top about the latest supercharger info.now if I could only get 4-wheel disc brakes.I KNOW I KNOW Should have bought the GT but Im stick illiterate

yank dini · Post by **yank dini** » Mon Oct 28, 2002 4:46 am

Will APC design the body kit just as they did for the Matrix???

savedbyzero · Post by **savedbyzero** » Mon Oct 28, 2002 6:20 am

let's hope not...

cohocarl · Post by **cohocarl** » Mon Oct 28, 2002 6:21 am

COOL!!!!! I'm already thinking of where to mount a boost gauge.

Flip-Side · Post by **Flip-Side** » Mon Oct 28, 2002 9:17 am

Ever since GM almost killed the Corvette nameplate with the Grand National...they made it common practice not to have cars in one segment, that interfere with sales in another. I guess those die hard GM engineers found a way keep the Execs happy by making it as an "Add-On".My big question is...Will I have to beef up the auto trans to handle this new power from the SC? I really need the better power after almost getting killed merging on the freeway.

UnDrPrEsHaPnOi · Post by **UnDrPrEsHaPnOi** » Mon Oct 28, 2002 12:58 pm

is the GM supercharger going to be compatable with the matrix xr?

Hawke · Post by **Hawke** » Mon Oct 28, 2002 10:18 pm

I received more info regarding the supercharger after inquiring availability with a manual. They said it "should" be available with bot manual and automatic.

wrench79 · Post by **wrench79** » Tue Oct 29, 2002 12:21 am

I'm happy for you 1zz owners. But now i feel like a fool for buying a gt. Doesn't this kinda defeat the purpose of even producing the gt.

lordyogi · Post by **lordyogi** » Tue Oct 29, 2002 12:41 am

i wouldnt worry about it, eventually someone is gonna figure out the high-compression problem for the superchargers or turbos for the gt, you can always go out and get a new low end in your car of all forged parts and lower the compression that way so you can have tons of boost. mind you those who do get the SC are gonna pay areound 3k and significantly shorten engine life depending on driving style, but the thing is that the boost is all the time from and SC while you have to wait for the turbo to spool before you get all of the boost. With just bolt-ons for the gts, if you can get a ram air hood, high-flow cat, with full cat back exhaust, new chip, and possibly a new clutch and flywheel you will pull in and whoop on a base with a SC.yogi

d_m_kolb · Post by **d_m_kolb** » Tue Oct 29, 2002 1:02 am

West Covina is working on a turbo for the 2ZZ but it wont be avaliable until mid to late next year.

lordyogi · Post by **lordyogi** » Tue Oct 29, 2002 4:35 am

i know i always read anything involving anything that has to do with any kind of forced induction for my ride.yogi

Hawke · Post by **Hawke** » Tue Oct 29, 2002 4:58 am

quote:I'd assume the option would be about $1,500 for the do-it-yourself kit; $2,000-2,500 installed.I'm hoping it will be that cheap but there is currently a supercharger available for Cavaliers and Sunfires through GM. If you select a dealer you can see the price. It's about $2800, not including installation. I'm guessing this kit will probably cost about the same.Edit:Sorry, forgot to put the link. I was distracted in the middle of posting and finished quickly. Here is the link I meant to put in for info on the cavalier and sunfire supercharger, select a dealer at the top right to see the price: https://www.spoperformanceparts.com/sto ... CATID=2902

NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Tue Oct 29, 2002 5:17 am

Ouch!

cohocarl · Post by **cohocarl** » Tue Oct 29, 2002 9:44 am

quote:Ouch!Ya, I'm guessing 2.5 to 3K.

Vibey · Post by **Vibey** » Tue Oct 29, 2002 12:14 pm

How much HP and torque do you gain by installing SC?TIA

LocDog · Post by **LocDog** » Tue Oct 29, 2002 1:15 pm

READ the previous posts...

LocDog · Post by **LocDog** » Tue Oct 29, 2002 1:16 pm

Does the warrenty still apply if i install the sc myself?

Post by **NSimkins** » Tue Oct 29, 2002 7:28 pm

quote:Does the warrenty still apply if i install the sc myself?quoted from a previous post:quote:high-quality finished product that carries a warranty of 12 months or 12,000 miles from customer installation

Post by **NSimkins** » Tue Oct 29, 2002 7:53 pm

quote:How much HP and torque do you gain by installing SC?quoted from a previous post:quote:This would bring the HP of the 1ZZ to around 180HP and the torque to around 170 ft lbs.

MA-VIBE-FAN · Post by **MA-VIBE-FAN** » Tue Oct 29, 2002 10:28 pm

quote: I'd assume the option would be about $1,500 for the do-it-yourself kit; $2,000-2,500 installed.All the superchargers listed at Toyota's TRD site are over $3,300 (No Matrix listed).

6slinger · Post by **6slinger** » Wed Oct 30, 2002 1:47 pm

Does anybody know if an SC could work on a AWD?

neptunevibeawd · Post by **neptunevibeawd** » Wed Oct 30, 2002 11:36 pm

I doubt that the SC will work with AWD, Everyone says our AWD cannot take the extra torque. But at least we can hope, or better yet maybe someone will figure out a way to reenforce our AWD system, then watch out for the AWD vibes............

Hawke · Post by **Hawke** » Wed Oct 30, 2002 11:46 pm

quote:Does anybody know if an SC could work on a AWD?I emailed Rebecca Harris (see first post) asking a few questions and one of the responses was that the SC will not work with the AWD vibe and there are no plans to offer a supercharger for the AWD or the GT.

d_m_kolb · Post by **d_m_kolb** » Thu Oct 31, 2002 12:12 am

I have several e-mails out to different GM employees and will post any info I recieve from GM. Just so you know GM visits this site regularly to see what all you Vibe owners are talking about. They can't opst or reply for legal reasons but they are here none the less.

d_m_kolb · Post by **d_m_kolb** » Thu Oct 31, 2002 3:06 am

This is a e-mail I recieved from GMquote:The current supercharger is designed only for the base engine. It will notot the GT or AWD models, nor do we have plans on a GT or AWD application .Other product offerings are being investigated and developed to complimentthe supercharger program. We (GM) are aware of the success of the Matrix'sparts and have similar plans for Vibe. Truth be told, the Toyota/ TRDrelationship is quite different than the Pontiac/ GM Performance Partsrelationship. In this case, their program has brought product to marketfaster than ours.In some cases, Toyota and/or TRD parts will function on the Vibe. Pleasenote that there are differences in the two vehicles despite having the sameroots via the joint venture. Because of these differences, neither GM, norToyota/ TRD endorses using parts for the Matrix on the Vibe. Likewise, theopposite is true also.Finally, this is a bit early in the program for me to offer any photos ofthe supercharger. We hope to have some photo properties available soon.-dandan.1.garrison@gm.com Performance parts specialistI recieved another e-mail today and they have pictures they will be sending to me soon.

Flip-Side · Post by **Flip-Side** » Thu Oct 31, 2002 11:03 am

Being that the AWD system on the vibe is a "slip-detect" traction control system, it will most likely cause problems with its operation by increasing overall power. This system is far different than those used on GM vehicles in the 90's.

yank dini · Post by **yank dini** » Thu Oct 31, 2002 9:59 pm

I really need this I'm getting killed on the freeway!!!SUPERCHARGER TAKE ME AWAY!!!!!!!

d_m_kolb · Post by **d_m_kolb** » Fri Nov 01, 2002 12:51 am

Well this post would have had pictures of the supercharger installed on a Vibe but Pontiac got the bright idea of taking pictures of it in the rain so they had to wait and retake them because none of them came out. Gee wet camara and film couldn't imagine how pictures wouldn't have come out? LOLAnyway I should have pics posted sometime next week.

Fritzburg · Post by **Fritzburg** » Fri Nov 01, 2002 2:32 am

Well, at least it won't be watered down.... that was bad....

abe98gt · Post by **abe98gt** » Fri Nov 01, 2002 6:04 pm

This is kinda funny how the base model actually turns out to be the one that has more potential. The same thing is happening with GP's (Grand Prix)'s, the base GT model has a new centrifugal supercharger, making it possible for the base model to outpace a GTP.

admin · Post by **admin** » Sat Nov 02, 2002 1:16 pm

Here's the story. SEMA coverage starts next week...http://www.genvibe.com/html/features/au ... ibe.shtml- Mike

Cubanpete · Post by **Cubanpete** » Sun Nov 03, 2002 6:48 am

I disagree, as I do believe they will offer in the future (next 6-8 months) a supercharger for the GT engine, and at a 35-40 % increasethat can bring that car to 235-240 Horsepower engine.....That was as Much as My 85 Iroc Z28 had with the 305 4 barrell at the time, and the Vibe GT with the SC Mod might pull a Hat Trick... like the same way they did with the Buick Grand National, that even made state troupers jump on getting that car....My Opinion is that the GT engine can handle and deliver alot more then 180 with very minimal modificationson it!

d_m_kolb · Post by **d_m_kolb** » Sun Nov 03, 2002 7:00 am

No way. A factory SC for the 2ZZ will never happen. I have explained why and GM and Toyota feel they wont be able to safely install a SC on the 2ZZ and still be able to have a warrenty that wont brake there bank. Even the after market companies trying to develop forced induction are having a hard time because of the 2ZZ high compression.West Covina is going to shoot for 4.5 PSI on stock internals for around $3,500. You'll be looking at around 225 to 240 flywheel HP.For another $1,500 they are going to offer new internals with a lower compression pistons and pump the PSI up to 15 to 17PSI. So for $5,000 you could have a 17 PSI turbo. I have no idea what the HP would be at this PSI but you'd probably have no trouble spanking a late model Vette at a light with this system. Tire traction would be a issue though.The factory SC isn't going to happen though.

old man winter · Post by **old man winter** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 2:18 am

OH MY GOD!... why buy a GT. If I still had mine I would be pissed. You could buy a base then spend a few grand more... then wave by by when you fly past.

NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 2:30 am

Bingo!

lordyogi · Post by **lordyogi** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 6:47 am

im not pissed, so what if someone wants to go out and put 3k into their base vibe and make it quicker than a GT. the probability of people actually getting them is rare. and me finding one of them besides at maybe a vibe gathering is even rarer. there are only a little over 30k vibes on the road, out of so many million cars that are driving around its rare enought to see a regular vibe. by the time i do see one of you guys with an SC maybe i will have the West Covina turbo in my GT, warranty or not your still only puttin 189hp to the flywheel and somewhere in the neighborhood of 155-160hp to the ground, while with a turbo i will be puttin 208 to the ground its gonna be an ongoing argument forever, i say more power to ya and go out and roast Ricers.Plus if you want to look into small fast factory cars look at the 2004 Dodge Neon R/T. They are supposed to be turboing that car and there have been rumors of test models running 14.1 1/4 mile times. now for a compact car that is smoke coming from the factory, and with a little effort and small mods, like exhaust and boost controller, and other little bolt ons you can have that car into the low 13's and high 12's and basically laugh at people that try to keep up.all this talk about ooh the base with an sc is sooo much better, Its all relative as to what mods are intended and the means to get hhem. at the time i was purchasing them i found the gt more to my taste and it still is. I will not cry if i get whooped by a base with an SC, i will just say i hope the are having fun with the money that was spent. thats all i gotyogi

rasermon · Post by **rasermon** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 8:11 am

Amen!

LocDog · Post by **LocDog** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 12:07 pm

That doesnt mean you cant go out and burn some Matrix'sBTW, Neons suck no matter what u do to them.

Fritzburg · Post by **Fritzburg** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 8:11 pm

If GM offers it as a dealer install when you purchase your Vibe, I'll do it, and just finance the extra cost into my monthly payment, it doesn't get easier then that.

Frosty · Post by **Frosty** » Tue Nov 05, 2002 1:56 am

quote:im not pissed, so what if someone wants to go out and put 3k into their base vibe and make it quicker than a GT.....yogi Yogi: A supercharged Base Vibe will not have: A six speed gearbox 4 wheel discs A leather steering wheel An 8k redline engineered by YamahaEnjoy your GT's for the unique cool reasons you bought it in the first place Just because something new comes along, it doesn't mean that your car is suddenly a stone or no longer fun to drive.

NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Tue Nov 05, 2002 2:03 am

quote:Yogi: A supercharged Base Vibe will not have: A six speed gearbox 4 wheel discs A leather steering wheel An 8k redline engineered by Yamaha A higher insurance premium A lack of low end torquequote:Enjoy your GT's for the unique cool reasons you bought it in the first place. Just because something new comes along, it doesn't mean that your car is suddenly a stone or no longer fun to drive.And remember that as I show you my taillights.