Clutchmasters Clutches...

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pissedoffgokart
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Clutchmasters Clutches...

Post by pissedoffgokart »

I have been in contact with Clutchmasters recently in order to find out for sure, and without any doubt, that we can use the same clutch as they make for the Celicas (7th Gen) in our Vibes and Matrices. By all rights we should, but hopefully by Friday we will know for sure. Anyone have any experience with clutchmasters? I was told by a friend that they are one of the best.
Nervous_Dog
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Re: Clutchmasters Clutches... (pissedoffgokart)

Post by Nervous_Dog »

I haven't had any experience with Clutchmasters but I've also heard plenty of good things about them. Just FYI, ACT has listed 6 different clutches (street to full race) for the Matrix/Vibe on their website for a year or so. They are the same SKU numbers as the Celica clutches. http://www.advancedclutch.com/index.asp ND
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pissedoffgokart
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Re: Clutchmasters Clutches... (Nervous_Dog)

Post by pissedoffgokart »

Official word from clutchmasters:jason , it the same kit as the late models celica , no different between the 5 or 6 spd . so we do offer stage 1 - 4 ! thanks lonnie So looks like we have another choice!
Faultline
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Re: Clutchmasters Clutches... (pissedoffgokart)

Post by Faultline »

I am shopping for a new clutch right now....I have a turbo, so i need the clutch to hold over 200hp, especially if I go to the track. I dont want to over kill it though as I want my left leg to survive daily driving...I am thinking of trying something different though like a Centerforce dual friction set up...I know some guys who have turboed celicas w/ the ACT clutches ...HD and Extreme...and they complain about the sudden engagement, and stiffness.......I am going to consider Clutchmasters though...
pics 10/2/05 http://photobucket.com/albums/a386/Faultline05/2003 Base Vibe, frosty color,moon n' tunes packagemods: Eibach sportline lowering springs,17"centerline forged wheels -silver excels -Goodyear Eagle F1 tires 225/50/17's-ACT HD clutch,2.5" exhaust,ES motormount inserts,up graded to 6 spd transmissionStafford Fabrication turbo kit: Garrett T3 turbo, FMIC ,SF BOV. ,Alcohol/water injection,and SF centerfeed fuel rail
goodvibe
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Re: Clutchmasters Clutches... (Faultline)

Post by goodvibe »

Make sure you check out the RPS street clutch.
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pissedoffgokart
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Re: Clutchmasters Clutches... (goodvibe)

Post by pissedoffgokart »

I have heard nothing but good things from RPS and Clutchmasters. I have heard several issues with ACT, from a noisy throw out bearing to the clutch not disengaging properly (due to the throw arm). Haven't heard any complaints on the like from RPS and Clutchmasters.
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Re: Clutchmasters Clutches... (pissedoffgokart)

Post by MadBill »

Quote, originally posted by pissedoffgokart »Official word from clutchmasters:...no different between the 5 or 6 spd ...!OK, so if it's the same clutch, and the 2ZZ has virtually the same maximum torque as the 1ZZ* but has much shorter gearing which should help (1st gear in the base should be about like starting in 2nd in a GT), why the (bleep) is it 99% GTs that have clutch problems?*(remember, a clutch transmits torque , not horsepower)
Faultline
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Re: Clutchmasters Clutches... (MadBill)

Post by Faultline »

Quote, originally posted by MadBill »OK, so if it's the same clutch, and the 2ZZ has virtually the same maximum torque as the 1ZZ* but has much shorter gearing which should help (1st gear in the base should be about like starting in 2nd in a GT), why the (bleep) is it 99% GTs that have clutch problems?*(remember, a clutch transmits torque , not horsepower) If you put it that way, I am only left to conclude that either: a) many people do not know how to use the clutch properly, and with one mor shift point , a deadly toll acrews on the clutch.b)gt drivers are more prone to drive agressively, therefore abusing the clutch.c)The 6 speed tranny gives more probability of choosing the wrong gear..example: launching in 3rd, instead of 1st. d) although the torque is similar to the base motor. it may peak at a more commonly used rev range??all these choices are just guesses...any more out there?...I would go with B) .....
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dmitri
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Re: Clutchmasters Clutches... (Faultline)

Post by dmitri »

i abuse the **** out of my clutch on my vibt gt, and have even glazed it over once when it slipped when i launched wrong. I have 24,000 miles and nothing is wrong, i still go racing every weekend or so, and drop the clutch at 5000 rpm or more
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