Supercharger on the way :)

ilquikgtx · Post by **ilquikgtx** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 1:34 pm

Just want to let people know that i will be installing a supercharger on my awd vibe next week , And if people have any info that would be great. I dont know if anyone with a awd vibe has put one on yet or no, i know that they have done it to a matrix.john

AKLGT · Post by **AKLGT** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 1:37 pm

sweet! let us all know how your fare! i've got the unichip on its way for my vibe gt and hopefully i'll get some better torque out of it and also a little on the hp.

Faultline · Post by **Faultline** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 2:39 pm

welcome to the world of boost!...I am sure that you are going to luv it!.....I would try to read all the posts of that 4wd matrix SC guy,here and over at matrixowners.com....try to pm him...anyways congratulations..!!

joatmon · Post by **joatmon** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 10:26 pm

greenfire can help with info, he's the SC AWD pioneer

satur9 · Post by **satur9** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 4:12 am

none of the dealers up my way have prices or parts numbers yet . whered you get yours and how much.

ilquikgtx · Post by **ilquikgtx** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 5:55 am

part #12498927 i getting it for about 2600

stkos79 · Post by **stkos79** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 6:12 am

will that work ?thought it was for base vibes auto,,tell how it is,,,

Sub-Vibe-R · Post by **Sub-Vibe-R** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 9:11 am

Quote, originally posted by stkos79 Â»will that work ?thought it was for base vibes auto,,tell how it is,,, For sure the SC will work on the AWD.This is the exact same engine as the base.The only difference is the exhust piping routing, which cut 7hp to the engine.Also, you should be aware that installing a SC on an AWD will void the AWD system warranty, as it is not really disagned to handle all this power and torque. The Sc will not necessary destroy the tranfert case, but it could damage it.

ilquikgtx · Post by **ilquikgtx** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 11:20 am

Then why will toyota warr. their matrix with a awd & sc i looked i the trd site and it designed for front wheel and awd matrix.

drummerdude · Post by **drummerdude** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 1:53 am

trd,Where can I pickup a Unichip, how much, and what gains (ie. dyno's) can I expect from it.Thanks!

satur9 · Post by **satur9** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 5:44 am

can i order one from where you are getting yours, do they have any manual ones , thats way cheaper than my dealer . i ve searched for online dealers ive seen trds for cheaper than that but i found none for pontiac.they way everythings availible for the matrix pissed me off they got 2 eurotails and 4 body kits out.

stkos79 · Post by **stkos79** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 7:25 am

check at work no great discount for the goodol' gm worker2600.00 can get in a daypace pontiac in columbus has one on the shelf,,,

greenfire · Post by **greenfire** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 9:32 am

Quote, originally posted by ilquikgtx Â»Just want to let people know that i will be installing a supercharger on my awd vibe next week , And if people have any info that would be great. I dont know if anyone with a awd vibe has put one on yet or no, i know that they have done it to a matrix.johnGood luck with the install buddy, let me know if you need anymore help.Ok let me clarify things here. I can only speak from what I know of Toyota and TRD.. not of GM. First of all I have several emails stating that Toyota does not approve the SC for the 4wd Matrix. HOWEVER, TRD says it will work. Some dealerships are selling the SC as approved for the 4wd. If a warranty issue came up, I have papers from this dealer stating the TRD SC was sold for a 4wd Matrix. It would be a holy hassle, but that dealer would have to warranty repairs if damage would occur.I feel confident the 4wd drivetrain can handle the power. Read this thread for an in depth analysis. http://www.matrixvibe.net/foru...=4243 Furthermore the 4wd Trix/Vibe has taller gear ratios which prevents the 4wd from engaging all that much to begin with. As I mentioned to ilquikgtx in an email, I highly recomend a custom exhaust and a transmission cooler.Looks like im gonna have a cousin now!

AKLGT · Post by **AKLGT** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 1:17 pm

Quote, originally posted by drummerdude Â»trd,Where can I pickup a Unichip, how much, and what gains (ie. dyno's) can I expect from it.Thanks!here's the thread about the unichip: http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=6971 larry posted some dynos for the gt w/ cai and exhaust. pretty impressive. looks relatively easy to install too. here's the link to the thread on matrixowners. it explains the chip a little more: http://www.matrixowners.com/mo...art=0

ilquikgtx · Post by **ilquikgtx** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 10:56 am

Hey greenfire i will get some 411 from a toyota dealer i deal with down here in chicago , Ive talk to the guy down here and told them about on the trd web site and they told me if they have the car listed on that part number they do not see why they would not warr. the car so frist i will print that and keep it cause if push came to shove you can use that document in court. But i hope i dont need to go that route. Thanks for all the 411 that you gave me also i looked at the unit and looks real easy to install just will take some time cause i want to do it right, and make it look like factory.The price i got was throgh a friend that worked for gm and got me hooked up , If you guys want i can see if he can do a group buy for people here.I plan in installing it next weekend , I just want to go over the instrustion a few times to make sure i dont miss a thing and if i have questions i can call a few people or email them (greenfire) (the cousin) I cant wait to put it in now my car wont be a dog it will be way more fun to drive.John

wicked1981 · Post by **wicked1981** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 11:04 am

I called my dealer and it was 2400 and some change.

ilquikgtx · Post by **ilquikgtx** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 11:06 am

I would jump on that cause i only paid like 100 over employee price.

wicked1981 · Post by **wicked1981** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 11:12 am

I would if I had the money. I bought a Borla Exhaust today (on the way) and got appointment to tint the windows on saturday. next project is to put the wheels (have wheels need tires) then hopefully by end of July I can buy the SC.

greenfire · Post by **greenfire** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 11:22 am

ilquikgtx, can you put up a link to the trd website where you see that the 4wd is listed for the SC? I can't find that. If true, this is good news.

bellwilliam · Post by **bellwilliam** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:04 pm

$2,400 for parts, that's excellent price. did anyone know how much for the install. with $2,400, I think I am going to pull the trigger. but I would like to know how much more I should expect for labor charge !! how many hours does it take?

wicked1981 · Post by **wicked1981** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 12:20 am

Well the labor charge is where we run into the problem. I called the part dept. and $2400 for the SC then I asked about labor. I get transfered to another dept where I guess they do the labor I ask about it and he says "ohh well not sure havent had anyone ask this one let me get your phone number. I need to ask about this so I will call you back" waited and didnt recieve a call from them. This happened 2 times so far so I guess ill call again when I have the money to pay for it.

teammonkeys · Post by **teammonkeys** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 3:40 am

What pontiac dealer in California sell the SC kit for $2400? I'm interested too for my AWD.

wicked1981 · Post by **wicked1981** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 3:50 am

Bunnin Buick GMC 1600 Auto Center Dr OXNARD, CA 93036 Phone: (805) 988-2200

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:24 am

Any word yet if this will work on the base model Vibe 5spd? I just keep seeing base vibe automatic information.

Geo · Post by **Geo** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 5:22 am

Yep, it's available for 5 speed base Vibe.In fact, the gains should be even better with the manual transmission

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 5:29 am

Sweet deal, looks like I'll have to get one. And yeah the power should be better on the 5spd which was why I thought it was weird they would make one for the auto only. Glad to know I'm not being left out.

joatmon · Post by **joatmon** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 5:33 am

Is it the same part number as the one for the auto tranny? The last dealer I asked said they didn't know there was one out for the auto tranny, let alone for the manual.

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 6:00 am

I checked with my parts department at work about the parts number but she doesn't have it either. She also said it would void my engine warranty? I may have to check higher up because I don't understand how something GM makes for your vehicle would then void the warranty on your vehicle?

wicked1981 · Post by **wicked1981** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 6:02 am

Thats weird since they warranty it for 3 years if they do the install 1 year if you do it yourself.

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 6:16 am

I do not think she knew what she was talking about. She and I both read the article about it like months ago when it was first announced but I can't find that article in my desk. She hasn't read it since then so I don't blame her.Maybe I'll call another dealer and see what information they have. Maybe they have the article still... Yeah if GM is warranting it for 3 years, it should not void the vehicle... Yup I need to get more info and then the costs for me in Canadian funds with my GM discount.

bellwilliam · Post by **bellwilliam** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 9:13 am

I just wonder how much time it requires to install. I probably won't have Pontiac installing the supercharger. I already have 20k miles, so even if Pontiac installs it, I only got 16k miles on the warranty, no big deal. I will have my regular shop install it. but not sure how many hours GM puts down, so I can get a rough idea.someone selling on ebay for $2,700http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...77569

ilquikgtx · Post by **ilquikgtx** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 11:11 am

The s/c will work for either manual or auto the instructions say either way same part number

tbm34 · Post by **tbm34** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 12:20 am

Quote, originally posted by wicked1981 Â»Bunnin Buick GMC 1600 Auto Center Dr OXNARD, CA 93036 Phone: (805) 988-2200 $2400Hey Wicked,Thanks for the info on the SC from Bunnin Buick GMC. Do you remember the person who quoted you this price? It seems to good to be true. The dealers I've talked to won't budge from MSRP $2995.-I've called Bunnin twice about the SC and still have not gotten a response.

wicked1981 · Post by **wicked1981** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 12:29 am

Well I just got off the phone with them and talked to Angel and he said he dosent know the price he will have to call GM or something to get the price and he will call me back. Dont know who I spoke to last time I called but I guess it just depends whos there at the time. Weird! Ill post up the price he gave me when he calls me back.

tbm34 · Post by **tbm34** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 1:03 am

Thanks Wicked,I left a message with them yesterday asking about the price and have not heard back. I'll let you know what they quote me.

wicked1981 · Post by **wicked1981** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 5:32 am

Well called again and our friend Angel is at lunch but the other guy that answered said he saw the notes about the supercharger but only Angle would know so he will ask when he gets back from lunch. Dont they keep prices for parts handy? Somewhere everyone can see?

tbm34 · Post by **tbm34** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:41 pm

You would think that they would know something as simple as a price, but in my dealings with GM there ineptitude never ceases to amaze me. It took me a month of calling dealers and GM direct customer assistance, as well as e-mailing GM Performance parts and GM Accessories just to find out if the SC was available. It was a simple yes or no question, but I was passed on from one GM place to another, without ever getting a straight answer. Here is one of my favorites .I e-mailed faq@pontiac.com saying that I own a 2003 Base Vibe with 5-spd manual transmission and wanted to know if the SC was available for this model. Here was their response"Thank you for contacting Pontiac and for your interest in the 2004 Pontiac Vibe! The Base Model Vibe comes standard with the 1.8L VVT-i, 4-cylinder FWD - 130 HP engine. It does not have available the engine the Vibe GT has, 1.8L VVTL-i, 4-cylinder 173 HP."Why would I have any interest in a 2004 Vibe when I own a 2003 already. I know perfectly well that the Base and GT have completely different engines. They didn't even read the damn e-mail . I don't know if GM management keeps all their different divisions in the dark, or if they are really just that apathetic. We are a customer wanting to buy one of their products, it should not be this difficult. I mean they have had press releases on the product and list it on their Vibe Accessories website.Anyway, thanks for letting me vent.And if anyone finds a price better than the MSRP of $2995- let us know. Iâ€™ve seen the TRD ones for as little as $2550 at trdperformance.com

wicked1981 · Post by **wicked1981** » Fri Jan 23, 2004 7:28 am

Gotta hand it to you tbm34 you sure know how they work. Check this one out.Well no response from Pontiac so I called the 1800 # for GM thinking they will for sure give me a price and what do they do? They call my local dealer (while im on hold) and ask them. Then she gets back on the phone and tells me Angel is working on it and he will call me when he gets the information. Well no **** I told her the sitiuation thats why I called her. Useless people.

greenfire · Post by **greenfire** » Fri Jan 23, 2004 11:22 pm

Not sure what dealer this guy is from but he says he has Vibe Superchargers for sale, with a discount. Maybe worth a phone call. http://www.matrixvibe.net/foru...=4400

GlenW · Post by **GlenW** » Sat Jan 24, 2004 1:39 am

For $2400 you can buy a used 69-70 Firebird that would blow the doors off of any supercharged Vibe. Which in my opinion would be money well spent!! If they dropped the price to under $1000 I might think about it.

Faultline · Post by **Faultline** » Sat Jan 24, 2004 6:16 am

Quote, originally posted by GlenW Â»For $2400 you can buy a used 69-70 Firebird that would blow the doors off of any supercharged Vibe. Which in my opinion would be money well spent!! If they dropped the price to under $1000 I might think about it.but then all you would have is your slow vibe, and a very fast piece of crapp eye sore falling appart in the driveway..(if you only have 2400.oo into it)....so whats the point?????????

tbm34 · Post by **tbm34** » Thu Feb 05, 2004 3:06 am

Quote, originally posted by ilquikgtx Â»Just want to let people know that i will be installing a supercharger on my awd vibe next week , And if people have any info that would be great. I dont know if anyone with a awd vibe has put one on yet or no, i know that they have done it to a matrix.johnHow is that SC install coming? Any updates. I can't find anyother supercharged Vibes on this site, you may have the first.

ilquikgtx · Post by **ilquikgtx** » Thu Feb 05, 2004 10:18 am

I going to finsih the install tommorow at my work i have the cpu all wired up and ready to mount the s/c, i cant wait till tommorowjohn

rasermon · Post by **rasermon** » Thu Feb 05, 2004 10:48 am

Quote, originally posted by ilquikgtx Â»I going to finsih the install tommorow at my work i have the cpu all wired up and ready to mount the s/c, i cant wait till tommorowjohnGreat! I can't wait to see it at the Mi. meet.

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Thu Feb 05, 2004 11:37 am

Its weird you say your installing that on your awd Vibe? every bit of information I have read has contradicted the other so much. I had read awd was not available, your proving them wrong. Now we gotta get a 5spd installed. Who cares about suspension hop? lol a lot of you guys don't even have stock suspension anymore.

satur9 · Post by **satur9** » Fri Feb 06, 2004 6:29 am

the only problem is awds have a auto tranny. so the auto supercharger works. the five speed is a different animal.

ilquikgtx · Post by **ilquikgtx** » Fri Feb 06, 2004 7:27 am

Just a update:::Well it all done and running real good it just differnet hearing a whine under the hood under half pedal. Everything went smooth and all is well . I started at 9 am and got done about 3-330ish . I the instructions their thing about manual transmision (extra bolts to take off to get the s/c in their. So i dont know why it wont work it all looks the same to me.I will post pic and now i can t wait till mich. meet.John

wicked1981 · Post by **wicked1981** » Fri Feb 06, 2004 7:48 am

Well how does it act? big difference? Damn need to start saving up..

Geo · Post by **Geo** » Fri Feb 06, 2004 7:50 am

JUST when I thought I could keep up with your AWD you have to go and do this ...I seriously can't wait to see this John! Good goin'!

greenfire · Post by **greenfire** » Fri Feb 06, 2004 8:11 am

Don't foget to check you belt for rubbing on the edges of the SC pulley. Check it every so often for the fist week or so, you may need to add or remove a shim. Keep us updated! Also it takes a long time for the ECU to adjust to the SC.