Supercharger possibilities!

Pontiac, GM SPO (Service Parts Organization) & TRD (Toyota Racing Development) discussions
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Fformula88
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Supercharger possibilities!

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Just read the article in news regarding the possibility of Pontiac offering a TRD supercharger for the base Vibe engine.I think this is a no-brainer for Pontiac, and by the sound of it they want it too. Question is for $2000 for the s/c add on that will boost horsepower to 220For discussions sake... why would anyone want to buy the high strung GT anymore? With some options fidgeting, adding a supercharger for $2K to a base Vibe would cost about the same as the GT and offer more power, and chances are more low end torque.Maybe Pontiac should have offered a supercharged Vibe from the factory... it would fit in its lineup with the Grand Prix GTP and Bonneville SSEi as far as supercharged engines go.
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Right now my understanding is that there is a production constraint on the 180hp engines for at least the first year. Whether or not that is artificial I dont know.For Pontiac and Toyota to offer a supercharger in the first year would be pretty amazing. There is plenty of demand for the cars as they are and a supercharger added later will help to prop up demand in future model years. Look at the VW Beetle Turbo S. It just appeared after all this time.If a TRD supercharger isnt available soon I am sure an aftermarket company will quickly step in to fill the void. Possibly Eaton.- Mike
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Re: Supercharger possibilities! (mlevine)

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I didn't even think of that, but it does make sense to hold back a factory version for a year or two to "refresh" the lineup. Not only the Beetle, but DaimlerChrysler is going to bring a Turbo PT Cruiser to market soon (as well as a convertable version).
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First I'd like to give mention to the great work that has been done on this site. Keep up the good work!I don't drive a Vibe or a Matrix; I drive a 2000 Celica GT, but I thought I may have some useful information to share with you. As for forced induction, we Celica owners are also quite limited in our options as yet. However, more has become available recently.For the 1ZZ-FE, West Covina Toyota, a dealer in CA, is in develeopment of a turbo kit. With some minor modifications this kit would conceivably work on a base Vibe or Matrix (it is intended for a 98+ Corolla, MR2 Spyder and Celica GT at the moment). As you will find on their page, there have been a few obstacles, but it is well on the way. Following completion of the kit, there is rumor that they will go on to develop a 2ZZ-GE turbo kit. Here is their turbo kit page: http://www.wctoyotasport.com/Parts/C3/1zzfeturbokit.htm A Celica owner in the UK has had a supercharger kit custom made for his 1ZZ-FE powered Celica. The company who created the kit may have plans to start selling the kit commercially. Here are some pics of his setup: http://www.celica-club.co.uk/pages/gall ... rofile.htm Blitz, one of Japan's top tuners, has released an intercooled supercharger kit for the 2ZZ-GE. It is intended for a Celica, mostly due to the configuration of the piping, yet again conceivable it could work with a Vibe GT or Matrix XRS. So far the kit is availale in Japan and in Europe, and should be available in the US later this year. No pricing has been posted on their website, just a picture. Their North American branch website: http://www.blitz-na.com As for a TRD supercharger, it seems that the Matrix/Vibe community knows more about that than the Celica community. Perhaps because of GM's and Toyota's intent to push the Vibe/Matrix into the aftermarket. I'll be checking back here for further news.I was also looking at the forums on http://www.matrixvibe.net , and found that they contained similar information. Also, you may wish to take a look at the http://www.celica.net , http://www.newcelica.org and http://www.toyotacelica.org forums for more information on forced induction.Again, great job on the site!
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Thanks for contributing to the boards BCGT! Much appreciated the info you provide. - Mike
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I'll second the thanks for contributing that info! Some good info and by the looks of it there will may be a few options for forced induction soon!
phuzaxeman
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Post by phuzaxeman »

So is there plans for a supercharger for the base engine and the gt engine? Where did you find the article about the base vibe engine supercharger?thanks, ken
wrench79
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The admin. on matrixvibe.net said that they probably won't come out with a supercharger for the 2zz because of it's already high compression. I hope like hell he's wrong, i'd be pretty upset if i got beat by a base vibe at the dragstrip.
2003 Lava Vibe GT.17''wheel package, 6spd, no sunroof.......oh well
d_m_kolb
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LOL At some point a base Vibe will beat a GT with all the mods becoming available. It's not that bad though. At least it's not a Civic kickin your (removed).
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Post by dogbone »

Hey guys I have been talking to TRD for a while now and the supercharger they are going to release is for the 1z engine but there are plans of a 2z supercharger in the near future. The sweet thing about using TRD parts is that it won't void your service plan. Another thing the $2000 is a myth it more like $3000-$3500.
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This is a e-mail response I received from TRD_Help@Toyota.com QUOTE: thank you for your interest in TRD!We have released the following Matrix items:18" wheel/ tire set (fits Matrix and Celica and 2003 Corolla)part number is: 00602-42600-301$1999XR-S cat back exhaust (peak hp increase=12.7 hp @6500 rpm)part number is: 00602-17500-014$650XR cat back exhaust (peak hp increase=9 hp @6500 rpm)part number is: 00602-17500-015$625sway barsFRONT stock, front=23.8mm TRD front=27mm (6.4mm wall thickness) 50% stiffer than stock,Race setting is 55% stifferREAR stock, rear=20mm TRD rear=25.4mm (4.7 mm wall thickness)118% stiffer than stockThe 1zz (VVt) engine is still under review for a supercharger; however notlikely.Thank you!TRD Help I'll keep you posted as I get info.
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