Anyone a watch conno(sior?)?

[Serj22]

I like doing this stuff, even if stuff is worthless - it's like treasure hunting...I don't know if I spelled that right, but I usually like to know what it is I'm wearing just in case I get asked about it by a bystander, family, etc... but recently I have come into posession of a watch that I can find no information on. My only thought is it was given to someone in the company as a gift or special made. The box says 17 jewels. The body of the watch looks to be Gold or Brass. It's very yellow that's for sure. The back is stainless and says "Stainless Steel Back / Base Metal Bezel / 1318"The band is hard dark leather.Now here's the kicker (pun intended). In the top half of the watch is a logo that says "Knapp Shoes," a shoe company I have since done research on, and the company was founded in 1921. So it (probably isn't that old) could be that old. The particular logo I have found was trademarked in 1963 in the black and white subtext. That doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't being used before technically. I think I may place the watch in early 60's possibly 50's based off that, but maybe 70's.THE COOL PARTof the watch is that there is a little gold work boot on the outer edge inside the crystal. when the watch ticks, and spins, the shoe "runs" around the outside ring (literally) up and down and all around. It is also invisibly floating in mid air inside the watch so it may have a magnet behind the plate because the minute hand can move it away from its path but it jumps right back on track. In the bottom is the word "Two-Shot" which is the sole they used on all their shoes and was patented. The company also acted like Snap-on in which they would go to workplaces and you would set up an order with them for supplies. That is what I have in front of me and have read. I have not found a single instance of the watch though. IN fact, if you can positively identify it, I'll paypal you $2.00. Even if it isn't worht $2.00. Haha.

[journeyforce]

I would say it is a late 1960's or early to mid 1970's. It looks like one of those Swiss pin lever watches of that time period. I would be surprised if the thing actually had an jewels in it (Jewels in a watch helped to ease wear of the moving parts in the movement)I would rule out 1950's because it was not until the 1950's that second hands were placed on the hour and min hands, prior to that it was ether no second hand or one placed at the 6 o clock position(called a sub second hand) and that would have been the next great thing on watchesdue to the fact that it has a clear disk that dubs as a second hand, I figure it is probably 1970's in origin. The "brass" is most likely colored pot metal. It was a promotional watch and not one given to employees at retirement due to lack of engraving on it and over all cheap lookingSee if you can pop the back off and read any markings on the watch movement. It might be a Timex watch movement. It might be worth money due to it being a company promotional watch.I have a Bob's Big Boy watch like that and that was a 1970's watch.Enjoy your watch

[Serj22]

Interesting. Very informative. I was wondering why the Bakelite atomic clocks I had had the second hand on its own axis. I can not get the cover off with the limited tools I have. I will have to go get the battery replaced and see what we got here on the inside. As far as other watches go, all i am down to are my samurai bands (look like bracelet but have led time) and my Swatch and Seiko. The swatch has a broken crystal (i believe it is called) so there is a big crack on the front I'd like to have fixed eventually. So 70's would seem appropriate. That seems to be the era from which my grandfather got a lot of his stuff that he found valuable (to him). I will start hunting for timex stuff. I have fired an email off to the company to see if it was some kind of promotional item from long past.

[journeyforce]

Battery? I thought the watch in question is a watch you have to wind yourself? If it is a battery powered watch then it is ether been converted or the watch is from the 1980's. It does not look like a 1980's watch other then Rolex and a few high end Swiss with the big chunky watches the theme in the 1980's was small and thin relating to watches.I suppose the other possibility might be that it is a Timex (or other brands)electric watch. This was a electric mechanical watch where power from a battery powered the balance wheel instead of a main spring so you had a watch that had a second hand that went around the dial smoothly like a mechanical watch and made a ticking noise like one but needed no winding.the Model 63 has the same case as yours and was made from 1973-1974 to about 1980 -1981http://www.electric-watches.co...3.phpIt could well be a Timex that was made for this company. It is not a retirement gift as that would have been something automatic or a BulovaCan you take a pic of the back of the watch so i can see it?

[TONY TAT2]

I actually wear a pair of Knapp work boots every night in work,thay are the 2shots also,but did have em resoled once,its about time for another resole tho,thay gota be 25 years old or better & still in decent shape

[Serj22]

As for having a battery, maybe it doesn't but I assume so since I do not get any movement after winding it on the time setter, unless there is a seperate key I need to insert somewhere else to wind it. Stil can't get the back off and don't want to damage it, unless the back unscrews, then I may be able to do that.

[journeyforce]

Alright. Sorry for the delay in responding back. I had to consult some of my books on this. I used to do watch repairs as a hobby and I loved the mechanical watches and clocksWhat you are probably looking at is a manual wind up watch with ether a Caravelle or Benrus movement in it. Caravelle was a lower priced watch company owned by Bulova. Sort of an entry level watch. I don't see any saying country of origin on it so that leads me to believe it was made in the USA(of course the dial could have been painted over for the Knapp shoe theme) because the big selling point was if a watch was Swiss made(the Swiss were and still are excellent watch makers) and the dial and case back and all packaging would say Swiss made.It was made most likely during the era of the jewel wars, in which each watch maker made watches with more jewels then the others. These jewel counts were mostly for bragging rights and probably did not function at all(watch jewels helped to reduce the friction of the moving parts in the movement(a fancy word for watch innards) ) It maybe a timex manual wind with with a cheap pin lever movementThe case back does unscrew but you need a tool(you can get one at Wal-mart for under $5) It sounds like it is a manual wind watch and somebody over wound it so the main spring is stuck.You can revive(or try to revive) with 3 methods1. Take it to a jeweler and see if he/she can revive it, it may need oil2. keep shaking it and tapping it with your fingers for 10 mins and see it it starts to run3. Wrap the watch good in bubble wrap and then stick it in a stove mitt. Then take it to your clothes dryer and throw some dry towels in the dryer then put the watch in the mitt and bubble wrap in and run the dryer on LESS dry setting for 10min and see if it starts ticking awayCheers

[Serj22]

Very informative. I will try those methods and see if I can get it working again. As for the tool I need to get, what is it called?

[journeyforce]

It is called a case back removal tool. It was in the watch section of my walmart next to a bunch of watch batteries. Of course you can take it to a jeweler and have them take it off to checkPlease keep me informed