Sound Deadener

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smeadows7
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Sound Deadener

Post by smeadows7 »

Hey all, I'm looking at installing some sound deadener in the vibe to help cut down on some of the road noise and enhancing the audio. I'm planning on doing as many areas of the car as I can so I need something fairly reasonably priced (although I do know you USUALLY get what you pay for). Just wondering if anyone had any recommendations or preferences.
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Post by CH@Dbee »

for the past 2 days i have been installing second skin damp pro deadener and whil it is far from the cheapest out there its freakin amazing! when you knock on the outside of my door now it feels like its so SOLID with just one layer. really good product.
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Re: Sound Deadener (smeadows7)

Post by BlueCrush »

I used FatMat for the entire floor and cargo area. Decent Price and it works great. I bought some more for my OEM sub enclosure retro-fit project. I used a closed cell 1/8" foam for the doors.
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Re: Sound Deadener (smeadows7)

Post by the_sarge »

I used eDead on my doors, I'm very happy with it.
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Post by Sublimewind »

RAAMat from RAAMaudio is the cheapest best... One of the top is Second Skin as CH@ mentioned.. I have a crap-ton if it in my Subie..
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Quote, originally posted by CH@Dbee »for the past 2 days i have been installing second skin damp pro deadener and whil it is far from the cheapest out there its freakin amazing! when you knock on the outside of my door now it feels like its so SOLID with just one layer. really good product. You should hear what it's like with 4 layers, + overkill pro (+some Cascade vMax)...
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Post by audiovibe »

I have used Stinger road kill, Edead, and Raamat BXT (not BXT II). Out of the 3 the RAAMat is the one I would reuse. I used some older stuff that was about 1/2 as thick as the Edead on the hatch of my vibe in the summer 2006, I also put Edead on my doors and liquid Edead on the hatch floor.When I re did my audio system in spring 2009 my intent was to leave the old and add the RAAMat to the existing. The Edead did not adhere very well over 3 years and was pulling up everywhere, and sagging in some spots. I decided to just remove the edead, it only took 10-15 min per door without heat! The old Stinger stuff was on the hatch was the same way, all the corners started to pull up and the middle areas started to sag. The Stinger stuff only took 5 min to pull down without heat. The liquid edead was good as long as you put it on thick there is probably 1/4" in my spare tire well. The RAAMat is my favorite so far as after 5 min of adhesion the stuff is on there. You could try to remove the RAAMmat but I dont really think it will be that easy.The newer Stinger stuff is supposed to be much better but at the same time it is also more expensive.Between the 3 I listed RAAmmat, Stinger Roadkill, and Edead; I would take the RAAMmat all day long and twice on Sunday!My next car will however be done in Second Skin Damp Pro products, They are slightly more expensive then RAAMat, but there is also more mass. More mass = less layers for the same level of quietness. Less layers will also save money in the end. The Second Skin Damp Pro cost $160 for 36.50 sq feet or $4.38 per square ft.The RAAMmat BXT II cost $130 for 37.5 sq feet or $3.47 per square ft. The RAAMat BXT II is currently on sale $90.00for 37.5 sq feet, that is only $2.40 per sq foot.If on a budget I would suggest the RAAMat as it does get the job done, plus they used a Vibe/Matrix in their how to tutorial.The areas you will really want to concentrate on are the wheel wells and the hatch floor as they are the biggest problem in our cars. Depending how you use the product will depend on how much you need. I used about 120 sq feet in my Vibe, I went crazy on the doors but I did not do the roof.You should also look into doing a layer of closed cell foam (CCF). CCF when used it will isolate rattles, squeaks, and absorb airborne sound waves such as road noise.Hope it helps.
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smeadows7
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Post by smeadows7 »

Thanks so much for all the useful information. I'll keep saving up through the winter and see what kind of budget I'm looking at in the spring and choose a product based on that. I guess if I'm gonna do it I wanna do it once and do it right so thanks again to all for the input.
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Post by DoubleBaril »

or this? if this would even be the right stuff?http://www.blujay.com/item/AUT...33892
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Post by Sublimewind »

Quote, originally posted by A Psycho Martyr »What do you guys think about this product?http://blujay.com/item/AUTO-BO...35115That is a barrier/blocker type product.. similar to MLV or mass loaded vinyl (IE Second Skin Luxury Liner)Blockers physically reflect sound... Sound that simple sound deadening can't.. BUT, it needs to be "decoupled" from the sound deadener with something like say... Quote »or this? if this would even be the right stuff?http://www.blujay.com/item/AUT...33892The above is basically a CCF (close cell foam) type product (Second Skin Overkill), almost useless for sound deadening, reduced echo somewhat, but in terms of deadening, yeah, not much.. It used to be that sound deadening was simply peel and stick, now a day you have "treatments" that include CLD tiles (peel n stick), CCF, and MLV, along with the liquids.. not to mention foams, ropes, bracing, and all the other fun stuff that happens in the wonderful world of sound deadening.. Cheers..
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