New Replacement Gas Pedal

[ParknVibe]

Due to the latest recall to cut the existing pedal, I requested a new pedal instead. Hope to get it soon. The Service Manager made a special phone call and then told me that it will be coming from the Canada manufacture.I told the Manager about how the pedal with the installed shim is more sensitive and requires a very light foot pressure. If I keep a light foot and the car rocks over a pot hole or bump, it will cause the gas pedal to hit my foot... making the car take off.

[vibenvy]

Yep, we had the same problem with our '09 GTs after having the shim recall and the pedal/floor modifications recall done. Although, in our cases, when hitting a bump or something, the transmission would exeperience the harsh downshift that was outlined in a previous TSB. Sometimes I could avoid it or lessen the harshness of the downshift, but either way it would still happen. Unfortunately, the dealer we go to wouldn't install brand new pedals without us first having the pedal modification done, so we got that done and than turned around and said we wanted new pedals. Mine has been installed already and my mom's will be installed this coming Tuesday.The new pedal is wonderful! It feels like the accelerator pedal in every other car I've owned/driven. I hope it continues to feel "normal".

[TONY TAT2]

I still haven't gotten mine done.I would want a new pedal ,think Ill call my service manager & see what their game plan is.

[ponta2147]

Quote, originally posted by J_TO_ENVY »Yep, we had the same problem with our '09 GTs after having the shim recall and the pedal/floor modifications recall done. Although, in our cases, when hitting a bump or something, the transmission would exeperience the harsh downshift that was outlined in a previous TSB. Sometimes I could avoid it or lessen the harshness of the downshift, but either way it would still happen. Unfortunately, the dealer we go to wouldn't install brand new pedals without us first having the pedal modification done, so we got that done and than turned around and said we wanted new pedals. Mine has been installed already and my mom's will be installed this coming Tuesday.The new pedal is wonderful! It feels like the accelerator pedal in every other car I've owned/driven. I hope it continues to feel "normal".Because of this review, I will probably try to get mine replaced as well.

[kowell]

I had the exact same problem with my 09 after they did the first recall with the metal shim. The tech admitted that they had no idea why it was doing that or how to fix it. In the end they took the shim out and put in a new one. It was better.... not right.... but better. (That was in March)In October, when my wife brought the car in for a regular maintenance, the tech told me by phone that I had to either let them do the 2nd recall or sign a waver denying them any responsibility if my car crashed. I told the tech to go FU** himself and that the only way in hell he was touching my gas pedal was to install a new one. 10 minutes later I got a call from the dealer manager and he told me that a new pedal would be installed in my car. (I got a few weird looks from the other guys at work after this call) With the new pedal the car is great, as it was when I got it. I definitly recommend putting some pressure on your dealer to get a new pedal. Hopefully you have a better relation with your dealer than I do..... 3 months left to my warranty, after that they will never see my face again

[09Vibe]

I'm still finding all these posts rather odd, meaning that I have to wonder how much it has to to with the tech doing this work and your results. I too had the initial shim fix and my findings were the opposite of what I read mostly here, the pedal seemed to have more resistance downward, making the lower rpm starts (I have a manual) easier in my opinion. We had no idea about part 2 in this equation until GM Canada sent us a letter telling us to have it done because it was not on record as yet. So - off I went recently and sat there for an hour while the job was done. Dealer showed me the template they used to dremel a tad off the bottom of the pedal and also remove some of the floor insulation under the carpet? Ok... they were as baffled as to what this was supposed to do other then perhaps make it easier to pull back the pedal if you jam it down into your 4 sets of floor mats ? I don't know, but none of these last mods could have possibly affected the pedal movement from before... its exactly the same to me ? And I definitely paid attention to the before and after when reading up on some owner issues here...

[jake75]

I do exactly what they say not to do. I have rubber floor mats on top of the regular OEM mats. There is no physical way that pedal could get caught under the mat, just as there is no way I could bend over from the waist and touch my toes.

[vibenvy]

Quote, originally posted by ponta2147 »Because of this review, I will probably try to get mine replaced as well.I definitely recommend it Michelle. I am actually at the dealer right now waiting for the new pedal to be installed in my mom's Vibe. Free high speed intermet at the dealer FTW !

[tpollauf]

Quote, originally posted by J_TO_ENVY » Free high speed intermet at the dealer FTW !Damm girl do you ever "disconnect" ! Just messing with you I think I'll wait till summer time when we all get together for a Vibe meet and then SERIOUSLY compare pedals in all the newer Vibes. Keep in mind that mine is a stick shift and that normal driving has the pedal "pressed & released" almost every 2-3 seconds whereas you automatics just press ONCE! This could be one of the reasons why mine still feels normal and acceptable to where I'm not doing anything just yet Time will tell ..................

[jd521]

we had both '09 Vibe GT's done last month. No unusual problems that we have noticed. Pretty much business as usual. cold down here in kansas, but no snow.

[ParknVibe]

As an update about me getting a new pedal, I was supposed to have it done today. It ended up that the Dealer's service did not get to it. That's the short story!!!The long story is that they told me the new pedal was in on Wed....come early today... Friday. Perhaps it will be done by 10 am (about 2 hours). About a half hour goes by in the waiting room then the service guy calls me out to tell me sometime. He said that it will take at least 4 hours becauses it is too involved. I said said it couldn't because it is really easy to replace it. (two bolts and a wire connector) Right? Wrong!!! I went back in to the waiting room for a short time again thinking I going to be there until noon. Then again they called me back out and requested that I go home because of how long its going to take. He then waved the large amount of pages of tech instruction steps that must be taken. Then he told me that he is NOT to give me a NEW pedal until they do the what the recall instructs to do first. ((that is to cut the original pedal)). He then admitted that I was the first one requested this recall and that they never did it before. Even though I insist that they have the new pedal in (as per the parts dept. guy). Why can't they do it??? The recall tech instructions say that they are not to replace the pedal until I say I am I not happy with the CUT to the original pedal. GM will not pay them if they do not follow the step by step letter of the recall. So they brought me home in the morning and when I called about the work at 3:30, he said they never brought the car into the service garage yet and they wouldn't do it today after all. They came back to my home and brought me back to pick up the Vibe to wait another day...like next week. This dealer is a GMC, Buick, and, former Pontiac place so they have a lot on their hands.So in short, they nevered did this recall before and I think they do not have even have a steel temple needed to make the cut. Then original Service guy who set his up for me last week, said that he did not know about the detail procedures that must be followed first. All of the customer services guys were perhaps upset with me by my thinking I can just ask for a new pedal and to save them a lot of trouble and time. They are afraid of being screwed by GM for the cost.Let this be a warning to all of you !!!!!

[vibenvy]

Quote, originally posted by Ivibe »As an update about me getting a new pedal, I was supposed to have it done today. It ended up that the Dealer's service did not get to it. That's the short story!!!The long story is that they told me the new pedal was in on Wed....come early today... Friday. Perhaps it will be done by 10 am (about 2 hours). About a half hour goes by in the waiting room then the service guy calls me out to tell me sometime. He said that it will take at least 4 hours becauses it is too involved. I said said it couldn't because it is really easy to replace it. (two bolts and a wire connector) Right? Wrong!!! I went back in to the waiting room for a short time again thinking I going to be there until noon. Then again they called me back out and requested that I go home because of how long its going to take. He then waved the large amount of pages of tech instruction steps that must be taken. Then he told me that he is NOT to give me a NEW pedal until they do the what the recall instructs to do first. ((that is to cut the original pedal)). He then admitted that I was the first one requested this recall and that they never did it before. Even though I insist that they have the new pedal in (as per the parts dept. guy). Why can't they do it??? The recall tech instructions say that they are not to replace the pedal until I say I am I not happy with the CUT to original pedal. GM will not pay them if they do not follow the step by step letter of the recall. So they brought me home in the morning and when I called about the work at 3:30, he said they never brought the into the service garage yet and they wouldn't do it today after all. They came back to my home and brought me back to pick up the Vibe to wait another day...like next week. This dealer is a GMC, Buick, and, former Pontiac place so they have a lot on their hands.So in short, they nevered did this recall before and I think they do not have even have a steel temple needed to make the cut. Then original Service guy who set his up for me last week, said that he did not know about the detail procedures that must followed first. All of the customer services guys were perhaps upset with me by my thinking I can just ask for a new pedal and to save them a lot of trouble and time. They are afraid of being screwed by GM for the cost.Let this be a warning to all of you !!!!!Sorry to hear that . I am so glad this whole recall nightmare is over for our Vibes. Best of luck to you!

[DressedInBlack]

so to get the new pedal, what is it the service departments need to hear from you? is it as simple as "i don't like the cut pedal"?

[vibenvy]

Quote, originally posted by DressedInBlack »so to get the new pedal, what is it the service departments need to hear from you? is it as simple as "i don't like the cut pedal"?Yep.When I called to make the first appointment to take mine in, I asked if they could just install a new pedal to begin with. They said that they have to first do the "modifications" and than if I'm not satisfied they will replace it. So, they did the modifications on mine, I waited a week or so than called and said I didn't like the feel of the pedal and I wanted a new one installed. I than did the same thing with my mom's. Simple as that. It took a total of four trips to the dealer (two per Vibe), but in the end it was worth it because the pedals finally feel like they should have from the beginning.Keep on them Ivibe . If need be, get the "modifications" done and than turn around and tell them you want a new pedal. If you request a new pedal after they do the "modifications" they have to install it for you.

[ParknVibe]

Quote, originally posted by J_TO_ENVY »Keep on them Ivibe . If need be, get the "modifications" done and than turn around and tell them you want a new pedal. If you request a new pedal after they do the "modifications" they have to install it for you.I really wasn't going to have this recall done to my pedal. However the dealer's maintainace service fliers they mailed me reminded me to have this recall done. And, reading about how some owners herein felt about how good the new replacement pedal is...I might as well get it done. When I went to set up the time to do it (at the dealer), I was surprise that the Service Advisor did not know much about it until I showed him the recall letter. He first thought I was there for the computer board recall and said up front that they do not have the parts for that recall yet. I said no it is for the 2009 pedal recall and I had the shim fix already. I had this recall letter for about 4 months and I am the first 2009 Vibe owner to walk in...in December.

[tpollauf]

Quote, originally posted by Ivibe » I had this recall letter for about 4 months and I am the first 2009 Vibe owner to walk in...in December. Wow ... They either sold VERY FEW 2009 Vibes or a lot of customers are simply "holding off" (like me) on having this procedure done. Let us know how things turn out for you

[star_deceiver]

Quote, originally posted by tpollauf » Or a lot of customers are simply "holding off" (like me) on having this procedure done. I'm in that group too... and I'm not really in too much of a hurry to get it done!

[ParknVibe]

Quote, originally posted by star_deceiver »I'm in that group too... and I'm not really in too much of a hurry to get it done! Today I went back to the dealer to see if they have any time to do the recall. Basically the Service Adviser, felt they can't do it today because of the amount of time it will take. So because of the coming holidays, I decided to hold off having the recall done until next spring or near my 3 year bumper to bumper warranty runs out. This Service Adviser claims that he used to work at a Toyota dealer as recently last year and remembers all the recalls he had to deal with there. Odd that he is now at a GM dealer.I also check my pedal position when fullly depressed to the floor and comfirmed to myself that the bottom of the pedal does press against the carpet. However the pedal does pop back up. I now feel strongly that it will be a good thing to have the recall fix done.

[TONY TAT2]

Well I think Im also gona hold off till spring ,haven the car over a year now Im used to the org pedal feel. With the last snow I kinda hate to relearn a new pedal feel if theres gona be 1.

[ponta2147]

At the dealer right now for oil change and tire rotation and whatnot (yay free maintenance certificate thing) and asked them about new pedal. The guy I talked to actually seemed like he knew what he was talking about (he even had heard of the downshift/computer reflash TSB, gasp!) so he said he'd take a look at it while I wait. Told them the fix had made the pedal "mushier" and harder to use (needed to light of a foot) and I'd been driving on it to see if I would get used to it but it was terrible. Also told them I'd like to get the reflash done again after the new pedal is installed to re-set the computer and have it relearn everyting, since the crappy pedal made the downshifting weirdness even worse. Let's hope it works out!!EDIT: Well this guy had two brain cells to rub together, he found the replacement pedal option and they ordered it! I'll post again after it gets installed when it comes in.

[ParknVibe]

Quote, originally posted by ponta2147 »At the dealer right now for oil change and tire rotation and whatnot (yay free maintenance certificate thing) and asked them about new pedal. The guy I talked to actually seemed like he knew what he was talking about (he even had heard of the downshift/computer reflash TSB, gasp!) so he said he'd take a look at it while I wait. Told them the fix had made the pedal "mushier" and harder to use (needed to light of a foot) and I'd been driving on it to see if I would get used to it but it was terrible. Also told them I'd like to get the reflash done again after the new pedal is installed to re-set the computer and have it relearn everyting, since the crappy pedal made the downshifting weirdness even worse. Let's hope it works out!!EDIT: Well this guy had two brain cells to rub together, he found the replacement pedal option and they ordered it! I'll post again after it gets installed when it comes in. Remember, the recall letter says that a replacement pedal will only be installed after you complained that the "cut off pedal" is not to your satisfaction (or words to that effect). I asked at the begining to just give me the new pedal. Then when it was in and I was there to have it done, The other "by the book" service manager then showed me the papers that they must follow. Then after leaving the car there all day, they never started the work. It will take more then 4 hours and they just don't have the time....AND I was the first Vibe to show up (after three months) so that they do not have experience to know how to cut the pedal. I then reminded him that you need a special template.Any way, did you have the pedal cut already?

[ParknVibe]

Last week I went to the dealer to have them perform the recall #10038 pedal and carpet trim. I also had them do a free tire rotation. I did not request a new pedal this time (but I really wanted it.) I just wanted the dealer to do what they were required.I came back from the store to learn that I must come back again because they had to order a new gas pedal and a Protector (pad I think?) for under the carpet. So yesterday, they installed the new gas pedal. I am now very happy to have the new pedal and to put this behind me. The new pedal does work a little better but I must run the car for awhile in different driving conditions to know for sure.

[Mr_C]

Does anyone have a copy or number of the TSB that outlines that the customer is entitled to the newer pedal if not satisfied. I have had mine modified but I am not satisfied. It doesn't accelerate smoothly and always takes off with a jerk. The dealership here in St. John's Newfoundland says that they are only doing the pedal modification and not replacing pedals.

[ParknVibe]

The following PDF document will help you find what your looking for.RCRIT-10V024-5032copy and paste it in your Search. When you get to the web site, you will find a lot more documents of interest. I do not have the address at this time. I was also looking for the latest bulletin or something like an update about replaceing the pedal directly. I did not asked the dealer why or to give me a written document. I only heard him say in passing that "they never can make up their minds" or "they keep changing the .....?" I can not recall exactly what I heard from. What happened to me is stated in last my last message. They told me to come back and gave me a new pedal. Your recall letter (notice) #10038 also states to give you a new pedal if you are not satisfied with the modifications.

[TONY TAT2]

Think it's my 3rd pedal recall notice that arrived in the mail the other day.

[ParknVibe]

Quote, originally posted by TONY TAT2 »Think it's my 3rd pedal recall notice that arrived in the mail the other day.I was receiving post cards from my dealer to remind me that I need to have the #10038 recall done. I still got a card yesterday...a week after I got the new pedal.

[Adam24303]

Trying to catch up on this thread. I bought my 09 GT about a month ago and have been annoyed by the very easy accelaration by barely touching the pedal. I assume that mine has undergone the recall and "trim" any thoughts on my next move? I see a new pedal is fixing this problem.

[ponta2147]

Quote, originally posted by Adam24303 »Trying to catch up on this thread. I bought my 09 GT about a month ago and have been annoyed by the very easy accelaration by barely touching the pedal. I assume that mine has undergone the recall and "trim" any thoughts on my next move? I see a new pedal is fixing this problem.I've also heard that "squishy pedals" are a common Toyota trait (at least, from my friends that have owned other Toyotas) so the new pedal only does so much to fix it. It's still going to be a little squishy. You get used to it and learn how to drive it normally.

[09vGT]

Quote, originally posted by ponta2147 »I've also heard that "squishy pedals" are a common Toyota trait (at least, from my friends that have owned other Toyotas) so the new pedal only does so much to fix it. It's still going to be a little squishy. You get used to it and learn how to drive it normally.I still have trouble sometimes.. accidental whiplash!

[vibenvy]

Overall, the new pedals in both our Vibes made a huge difference, but there are still times here and there when we get the "harsh downshift" due to the pedal still being rather touchy. You basically just learn to live with it and how to stop it from doing the "harsh downshift" before it happens, or at least I have .

[ParknVibe]

Quote, originally posted by J_TO_ENVY »Overall, the new pedals in both our Vibes made a huge difference, but there are still times here and there when we get the "harsh downshift" due to the pedal still being rather touchy. You basically just learn to live with it and how to stop it from doing the "harsh downshift" before it happens, or at least I have .I had the new pedal on for almost a month now. I am glad ( or lucky that dealer was required to installed it) i.e.... I did not demand it this time. As for the "feel" or difference from the original pedal (with the shim installed). I only feel it to be a slight stiffer and a little more smoother during takeoff then before. I wish it was more harder to depress so I can control slow movement.I am wonder if then use the exact same pedal for the 1.8L engine vs the 2.4L engine. In other words, the 2.4L being more powerful, has an increase sensitivity to the pedal vs with the 1.8L. so one must maintain a light foot during light movements.

[jake75]

2009 - I still have the original pedal - never noticed any problem. Am extremely reluctant to have the "fix" done. That said, I think I can tell a difference in the drive by wire on my '09 compared to my former '03. I preferred the old one.

[Kincaid]

still rockin' the stock pedal here too.