Faultline's turboed Vibe -may 31-

[Faultline]

Many of you have asked "what is going on with your car?"....first of all, I keep meaning to take pics...but will not buy a new camera to do so...I dont think any one wants to mail me their camara , just so they can see new pics.... ....the car is running awsome...!this car is so much fun to drive N/A....It just gets better with F/I.... Stafford fabrications has put their system on my vibe, and on a matrix xr..as they will soon release a kit for the power desirous ..between the two of us , we have about 10,000 mi on our cars......My latest change was putting on a different compressor housing on my garrett t-3 turbo.... an AR48 to an AR 60..and also a mechanical boost controller that allows adjustment from 4 1/2psi to 10psi....but i leave the normal setting at 7psi.....the matrix guy, will soon post his dyno , either here , or newcelica.org, or matrix owners.,He put 205 to the ground W/o a fan blowing on the intercoller.,and oh yeah...there is a celica now with our motor init that has a Stafford turbo on it as well..and a kit coming out for them by Stafford Fabrications.....It really is a great set up I have a Frosty white Vibe...and by Intercooler pipes have been powdercoated to WHITE...for the purely boosted I suppose lol....I plan on getting white rims, when I am no longer so poor ..I am so proud of this set up..and it is so much fun!! so please ask any questions about any thing about it...it makes a geat ride..and I like talking about it....

[ChipsAbyss]

Hay Im in the process of putting it in my GT Is it worth it?

[teammonkeys]

How much did it cost you (Force Induction only)?

[Faultline]

quote:Hay Im in the process of putting it in my GT Is it worth it?turbo charging the gt is a bit harder because the compression ratio of the motor is so high....it is easier to blow the motor up...I would have to say that turbocharging is not for the faint of heart...but if done correctly, the 2zz motor in the gt would put down some serious power , and would be awsome!

[Faultline]

quote:How much did it cost you (Force Induction only)?the kit cost me $3500.00...and because my car was a proto type, the install was free ...the kit comes with:Garrett t-3 turboIntercooler with 9x19x3 coreAll IC pipiping is 2 1/4"befor Ic and 2 1/2" after...with powdercoated finish3" air intake with matrix cone filter on end..BOVStaffords fuel set up-pneumatic fuel multiplyer- which can supply enough fuel to over 300hp(if the engine was built up)the kit will safely get you to over 200hp to the ground...

[satur9]

you didnt mention manifold i would assume the kit comes with a manifold and what type cast,welded stainless elbows, mild steel,etc. any warrenty on the manifold?

[MadBill]

"All IC piping is 2 1/4"before Ic and 2 1/2" after...with powdercoated finish..."A minor point Faultline, but shouldn't the inlet piping be larger than the outlet, rather than vice-versa? The air contracts as it cools, so there will be less volume to deal with downstream of the IC...

[Faultline]

I cant believe I forgot the header... I kept thinking.."I forgot something!" The header ,or exaust manifold and the down pipe ! I forgot the down pipe too!!..If I was some official rep for Stafford...I would be fired! ..but I am just a customer... ..The exhaust manifold is mild steel...and it reealy beefy...the flange is 1/2" thick , and the tubular wall thicknes is 200/1000's..Stafford warrnaties this for 3 yrs as he does all fabricated parts...the turbo gets one year I think, whatever Garret gives.....and Mad Bill...the 2 1/2" has to do with the new MAS bracket, and connection up to the throttle body...the intial intake is 3"...the 2 1/4 leaving the turbo , is to match the compressor housing outlet, and to reduce lag of the hot air on the way to the IC ..I believe...

[MiamiVibe]

Faultline do they have a site?

[Faultline]

I keeep thinking, that I will find my old camera as I am organizationally challenged...and if i do..I will probably post the picture in my sig and avatar...quote:Faultline do they have a site?no , not at this time...will have one up again, but not sure when..At this time you can reach them at 661-816-5444..oh yeah, and the initial 3" intake is aluminum,I think I said it was mild steel...what is unfortunate is that the kit does not eliminate the 120mph speed limiter nor does it come with a resporator LOL..

[satur9]

whats a resporator? hks makes a speed cut deferencer for 185. i believe apexi rev speed meter is supposed to have that function too.i was going to get one but realistically im never going to go 115 mph im too scared of that ticket and possible liscense suspension . a 12.7 sec wrx sti only hit 106mph trap speed.so im good. plus i hope you got tires and brakes that can handle that speed.

[Faultline]

quote:whats a resporator? ....It was a joke youknow ..the oxygene mask thingy like for when you stop breathing...like if your going to have a heart attack or something... im too scared of that ticket and possible liscense suspension . a 12.7 sec wrx sti only hit 106mph trap speed.so im good.Yeah...ironicly, the week before I put the turbo on..I got my first speeding ticket going 85mph in a 50mph zone...which put me in the wreckless driving category out here in CA...but, the cop said 65 on the ticket..But I must admit..that there are alot of back roads out here in the desert ..and I love flying down them...especially one imparticular that runs along the SanAndreas fault.. plus i hope you got tires and brakes that can handle that speed.no actually I dont....and I am actully not planning on removing the limiter for now...just for my own safety.... I want to get new rims and z rated tires as I have stock w/ steelies...and I want some suspension up grades....but for now....I am still fast lol..very fast...and as far as brakes.....I dunno....Maybe I need to get some upgrades...they actually seem ok right now though...what do you know that I don't??

[Faultline]

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[MonotoneSatellite]

Faultline, any idea what your HP/Torque output went up too? I would like put a Forced Induction process into my base Vibe. I know that the SC provides a more even power band, but I have seen some heavy claims from some turbo outfits. Let me know! Thanks,

[Faultline]

I have had two dyno runs...one showed 210whp and 201tq..but that was not altitude adjusted..the probleim was...though that this particular mustang dyno....was disputed as being unreliable...so I have not bragged too much about it....even though I have the sheets, but I partially dont car...... because #'s are meaningless to real life expeinces ;the other dyno showed 194whp , but I am not sure where the boost was at......as it is adjustable ..it was 6 or 7psi...nicks hit 205whp at 7.5 w/ his matrix...w/o a fan on the intercooler...so the kit makes aroun 200whp i guess....but I have never dynoed at 10 psi....which I turn up to with easyily adjusting bleeder valves under the hood.... but as far as the power band....ther is lag.....if you shift between 3k and 3.5k you will feel the turbo comming on...but if you accell patst 3.5 to 6.5 ..the powere is absolutely breath taking...it some times still surprises the **** out of me! ....I like this dr. jeckle , mr. hyde abilty of my vibe now....!

[MonotoneSatellite]

Cool, sounds like a fun ride. I can just imagine the looks on the faces of other drivers when a station wagon beats 'em. Thanks for the info! Hmm, do I keep the warranty or not. That will be the deciding factor I think. The Turbo route is obviously a better route by the numbers and performance. But the SC will keep the warranty.

[Faultline]

quote:Hmm, do I keep the warranty or not. That will be the deciding factor I think. The Turbo route is obviously a better route by the numbers and performance. But the SC will keep the warranty. what I am wondering , is who will start tweaking the SC, and be in the same boat as me..warranty wise....I have heard that the SC puuley is already tto small to make smaller...but , you could get a larger crank pulley..and then smaller pullies fo the alt and a/c....this woould spin the s/c faster.....and maybe some one could add waterinjection to the intake stream..to cool the air...and make more power....I dont know, but someone is bound to do something.....all I know , is that it is easy to get greedy for more power....I am already toying w/ water injection, and have priced stronger rods and pistons...and better clutch...and ...and and...and....maybe we should have bought one of those hybrid cars , and got all exited about gas mileage

[Lancer]

Faultline,Could you sorta explain how difficult it would be to install the turbo kit? Is it all a direct bolt on kit or is there more technical things to be done? I'm mostly wondering about the exhaust manifold/turbo manifold/down pipe, and how hard is it to get to that area (does the engine have to be lifted or 'jiggled') and the fuel managment instalation. Are the instructions easy enough to follow for a person with 'some' mechanical history. Using myself as an example, I have only done preventive maintanence and basic repair to diesel engines and small gas WI engines. I'd like to install the turbo myself so I can understand more about my car but a turbo instalation sounds like a whole lot mor then changing out parts and fluids.

[Faultline]

quote:Faultline,Could you sorta explain how difficult it would be to install the turbo kit? Is it all a direct bolt on kit or is there more technical things to be done? I'm mostly wondering about the exhaust manifold/turbo manifold/down pipe, and how hard is it to get to that area (does the engine have to be lifted or 'jiggled') and the fuel managment instalation. Are the instructions easy enough to follow for a person with 'some' mechanical history. Using myself as an example, I have only done preventive maintanence and basic repair to diesel engines and small gas WI engines. I'd like to install the turbo myself so I can understand more about my car but a turbo instalation sounds like a whole lot mor then changing out parts and fluids.It is a bolt on kit..the manifold and turbo come bolted together..so..you have to remove the old manifold and down pipe, and replace w/new one which wll fit right up to stock exhaust...the Ic bolts in the front, and the IC plumbing is made to fit around everything so your not hacking everything up...the fuel kit only replaces a small fuel line by the fuel rail..it is all in one place for the fuel kit,line in, line out..and a bracket to the motor...there is a short ram air to replace the stock air box, and the MAS is made to fit in a bracket on the Ic piping...there are vacuumlines from the Bov.and the fuel kit and the intake manifold that measure manifold presure...and there are 3 electrical wires to the fuel kit..:hot ,ground,and to fuse...(.something like that).. ..the hardest part according to Stafford is taking off the oil pan....you have to do this to fit on a retrn oil line from the turbo...ther is an oil line from where your oil filter is to the turbo, and one from the turbo to the oil pan....the pan has to be drilled w/ a small hole , to put in the fitting , that does not have to be welded , then the pan has to be replaced....taking your oil pan on and off is the hardest part as it is a bear..! I still have my stock clutch, and the car runs like a dream! note that the fuel kit comes into play, when you are into boost...then otherwise , your ecu runs every thing the same...NO! engine lights!...and ...200whp!....also STafford has some more goodies comin our way...water injection, and a dual stage boost contorller...its cool...launch at 7psi for traction...then...pres the button for 11psi for some nice track times ..and that 350z in your rear view mirror ..stafford will give you great technical support and wlk you thru on the phone... if your really interested, you can call him at 661-816-5444...he will talk to you better about the instahl, and whether you are capable...remember, He is a business man and wants your business....so he does not mind talking to you, or e-mail at staffordfabrication@yahoo.com....hope this helps

[Lancer]

Thanks for answering my questions. Only need to make another grand or so and I'm there!What does Mike recomend upgrading on an automatic transmission? I heard a clutch kit, but anything else?

[Faultline]

I forget what theyre called..its for shifting..so that you can shift manually like....(its late) of course a tranny cooler is always a good Idea