Disconnected both hoses. Went to auto parts store and bought a coolant connector. Clamped both coolant hoses together. Very easy modification, Noticed slight improvement.
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You may want to reconsider the bypass, especially with winter coming on. It's been posted on the Internet that coolant is plumbed around the TB to heat the incoming air. That is NOT the engineering design and is a myth. The purpose is to prevent ice from forming on the backside of the TB butterfly, which can interrupt air flow when open and cause the butterfly to stick partially open at idle. Under certain conditions, ice can form in the TB even during summer months. Again, the coolant does not heat the intake air as the air passes through the TB much too quickly to become heated.
Can't answer that but other engines do use it. Our Saturn Vue V6 (Honda VTEC) has it as well as GM LS engines. Our 5.7L Tundra had it, IIRC. Even our old '92 5.7L Chevy P/U had it.
Do some research on Carburetor Icing. The airplane forums have a lot of information for this is a very serious issue when 1000's of feet in the air! On land, the car runs poor or stalls, big deal! No offense intended but people a lot smarter than you (I assume, don't know you) and for sure smarter than I have spent a lot of money not only to design but to construct and install this in your car. Believe me, it wasn't done just to irritate people! Some design work is to shut the Feds up with emission regulations though. There hasn't been much worse than the old air pumps during the 60's and 70's to screw up a car.Think twice about this mod.Dave
My subie uses a coolant charged TB... it's silly for high performance guys to run it, but on a Vibe, the difference is negligible.. Especially on my car as it's not DD'ed.. I've bypassed it, but I won't be driving in the winter either.. On my car I didn't even need any fittings, I just removed one hose, shortened the other and popped it on the other fitting with the factory clamp... 5min max, zero cash... lol..
I know of at least one person here who installed a CAI, then got surprised by water, hydrolocked, and subjected the car to Sudden Engine Death Syndrome. In spite of that, CAIs still seem to be a very common performance mod. An objective observer might think that deliberately putting such a SEDS likely device on a car is lunacy, but it's popular. By comparison, the risk of a little incovenient intake icing seems trivial.
Problem solved. Just install a dehumidifier under the hood.
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Quote, originally posted by joatmon »I know of at least one person here who installed a CAI, then got surprised by water, hydrolocked, and subjected the car to Sudden Engine Death Syndrome. Didn't he do that like 2-3 times? Quote, originally posted by DrunkenDixie »Disconnected both hoses. Went to auto parts store and bought a coolant connector. Clamped both coolant hoses together.I hope not in that order I did the TB bypass... no ice yet.
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Quote, originally posted by djb383 »How do you know? Have you looked on the backside of the butterfly that's inside the TB while the engine is running? It's Florida, we have a law about ice being anywhere other then in our drinks, it's just not allowed.
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The worst thing is on a humid/damp day on the highway your throttle can ice up, any season, and when you lift off the accelerator pedal the car keeps going, very dangerous. I can see the mod if you are racing and want a miniscule edge, but poor choice on the street.
+1........Use your thumbnail to let air out of an inflated tire and feel how quickly your thumb will get cold, even when it's hot outside. Same principle is at work.....air moving rapidly from higher pressure (front side of TB butterfly) to lower pressure (back side of TB butterfly). Again, the circulating coolant warms the metal in the TB (not the incoming air) to prevent ice from forming on/sticking to the back side of the TB butterfly.
Quote, originally posted by VforVIBE »It's Florida, we have a law about ice being anywhere other then in our drinks, it's just not allowed. Ummmm, I recall being in Florida, Palm Beach area, a few times waking up to an ice covered world!! Must only be illegal on the West Coast??Dave
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With all that tubing/piping maybe it transforms into a 5 piece brass band, or something.........playing music to Sublimewind's ears when he mashes the go pedal. Man that puppy blows.....get it. ROTFLMAO