Injen Intake works on Vibe GT

Bocaj77 · Post by **Bocaj77** » Sat Jul 20, 2002 2:33 pm

I would say its almost a perfect fit. It took me about an hour to put it on. I ordered it throught NOPI.

NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Sat Jul 20, 2002 10:58 pm

What's the INjen part number?

d_m_kolb · Post by **d_m_kolb** » Sun Jul 21, 2002 5:00 am

quote:What's the INjen part number?The Nopi part number is 948+4875 for the Vibe and 948+4876 for the GT. You'll be looking at about $250I'm not willing to pay that for something I can make myself. I built my CAI using this link as reference. http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=178I also header wraped the CAI to make sure the air temp stayed down.This is the K&N filter part # I used. RX-3820It's one of their new filter designs Universal X-Stream Clamp-on. It's a cone filter but also sucks in air from the very top of the filter unlike most.Here's a link to the filter http://www.knfilters.com/universal/X-stream.htm If you can find one, go for an air filter with the top, and sides having filter material. Most filters have a solid top.Stay away from any filter that just uses metal mesh as their filter medium. These filters flow great, but they do not do a great job of filtering the air.I personally prefer the "cotton gauze" style similar to K&N. I personally really don't like "foam" air filters. I just don't think they do a good enough job of filtering the air.The total for everything incuding the K&N filter was under $75.00 Here are some pics of mine. If you have any questions ask.

NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Mon Jul 22, 2002 11:06 pm

I eMailed Injen about the Matrix XR intake fitting the base Vibe. They said that they did test-fit the Matrix XRS intake to the Vibe GT and it does fit with no modifications however they have not yet test-fitted the Matrix XR intake to the base Vibe and are unwilling to say it will fit until they do so. My guess is, if the XRS fits the GT, the XR will fit the base Vibe.

d_m_kolb · Post by **d_m_kolb** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 1:59 am

A member of another forum said he has a Vibe and the XR Injen fit great so I'd say it's save bet it will fit.Of course I think it's nuts to spend $250 to $300 on a something you can make yourself and it be just as good. Like I said, my custom CAI I made cost me a total including filter $75 to $80 bucks.

NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 2:19 am

quote:Like I said, my custom CAI I made cost me a total including filter $75 to $80 bucks.Got any pics?

d_m_kolb · Post by **d_m_kolb** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 3:13 am

Read up I posted 3.

NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 3:16 am

My bad. I thought those were pics from the "how-to" article and that you made one up for the Vibe.
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d_m_kolb · Post by **d_m_kolb** » Tue Jul 23, 2002 3:45 am

No they are mine. Yes I have a Kia at the moment and haven't been able to buy a Vibe. Hopefully buy the first of the year. I'm getting off topic sorry guys.If you have any questions about how I did it please ask. I noticed a HUGE difference in performance when I installed it.

d_m_kolb · Post by **d_m_kolb** » Fri Jul 26, 2002 12:56 am

quote:My bad. I thought those were pics from the "how-to" article and that you made one up for the Vibe.Everything I have done to my car can be done to the Vibe the same way. Once I get my Vibe I will be doing this the only difference will be the way the custom CAI bends.

Frosty · Post by **Frosty** » Fri Jul 26, 2002 1:10 am

I am keen too make one for myself as well. My partner at work put one on a Neon so I have a captive consultant. Hope someone else can try it before I do though.

lopers · Post by **lopers** » Mon Jul 29, 2002 4:47 am

d_m - can you post the link to the forum of the person who put the injen intake for the XR in the base Vibe?

d_m_kolb · Post by **d_m_kolb** » Mon Jul 29, 2002 5:12 am

Here is the link. It's the 9th post down and the members name is Purplenvhttp://www.matrixowners.com/modules.php?name=F ... pic&t=203I still think you'd be better off making one yourself. I keep hearing from buyers that the Injens and AEMs CAI really helped top end RPM but not much in the low RPM. The one I made helped alot down low where it's really needed. I also added lots more pics of my custom CAI here.http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=178

NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Sun Aug 18, 2002 3:04 am

Well, while the Injen CAI for the XRS may fit the Vibe GT, the Injen CAI for the XR Matrix DOES NOT fit the base Vibe (I just found out first hand). The tube hits the back of the headlight assembly and it positions the filter in the same space as the driving light.DO NOT BUY THE INJEN CAI FOR THE MATRIX XR IF YOU HAVE A BASE VIBE!What I plan on doing is to modifying the intake by either cutting it (and adding another 2-3/4" hose to reconnect the 2 pieces) to reposition the filter away from the driving light and moving the elbow away from the headlight OR cutting the tube very short and leaving the cone filter in the engine bay for a "short-ram" effect.About making your own, you can't. The Vibe (and Matrix) have the MAF built into the air box. The sensor bolts into the box from the top and can not be inserted in a home-made CAI:The Injen CAI cames with a custom mount built in for the sensor:Now the question, keep it a true CAI and try to reposition the tube and filter away from the headlight and driving light or just make a short-ram and keep breathing in warm air.Decisions, decisions. Where's my cutoff wheel?
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NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Mon Aug 26, 2002 10:07 am

OK everyone, here's my shortened Injen CAI. Now, technically a short-ram. Yes, it's loud. Not at all during normal driving but anything more than half throttle is noticable. I love it! I can't wait to G-Tech it tomorrow on the way to work. Lookin' for 16's.Unmodified Injen CAI just out of the box:Modified to a short-ram:

rasermon · Post by **rasermon** » Mon Aug 26, 2002 10:35 am

NovaResource, job well done on your Injen CAI install. I'm going to order one next week after the holiday weekend.

LocDog · Post by **LocDog** » Mon Aug 26, 2002 1:13 pm

How bout i just strap a cone filter directly to the engine's intake... without all the fancy tubing.... how would that work

sharky · Post by **sharky** » Mon Aug 26, 2002 7:33 pm

YIKES!!!!there are vacum tubes that are hooked up to the air box. If you scroll up you'll see he has it circled in red. and the pic below that shows you the CAI with the correct fitting to except all the tubes. You might do more damage to your car if you dont include the vacum tubes with your CAI.Dont forget if you just put a filter on the intake now your filter is right next to the motor and you'll really be sucking in hot air.
[Modified by sharky, 6:36 AM 8/27/2002]

NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Mon Aug 26, 2002 8:46 pm

Sharky is correct, you can't just install a cone filter to the throttle body. For the GT there are vacuum tubes but not on the base Vibe. However, the base Vibe (and GT) have a breather tube that need to be connected to a clean air source. Also, the part circled in the picture in the above post is the MAF sensor and needs to be hooked up and working or your car won't run right.BTW, I G-Teched a 17.0 @ 84 mph on the way to work today. A tenth better but 3-mph slower. This was due to only getting in one run and on a street that has a slight incline at the end of the 1/4 mile. I usually run a few places and one in particular that is very flat but traffic didn't allow it there today. I suspect a 16.9 is possible on a flat street where 87-mph can be reached (or exceeded).
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ullbergm · Post by **ullbergm** » Mon Aug 26, 2002 8:55 pm

What did you have to do to it?

NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Mon Aug 26, 2002 9:12 pm

Basically just cut it in half. If you look at the picture above (with the tube wrapped in plastic, sitting on the box) I cut it right about where the tube goes behing the filter.These two pictures might help:Full length on a Matrix:My custom-cut, short-ram version to fit a base Vibe:

Ryan · Post by **Ryan** » Mon Aug 26, 2002 10:21 pm

While looking into building my own CAI, I noticed that the air box has a large vacuum flap that is before the filter. What does this do and how does not having one affect the car's operation. As for the MAF sensor, if Injen can make it an agile solderer also can. I must hand it to Injen for making a nice looking intake. I might of liked a larger tube for max airflow (3 inches instead of 2Â¾) but If I can find one for the right price. I might buy from Injen instead of making my own.Ryan

NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Mon Aug 26, 2002 11:01 pm

The base 1ZZ engine doesn't have that vacuum-operated flap in the stock airbox and from what I've heard, only the 2ZZ GT engine does. I've not seen one in person so my guess is it's a sorta heat riser. It allows the engine to breath in hot air when the engine is cold to help it warm up faster. Once the engine get's to a preset temp, the flap moves and allows cold air in.I believe the 2ZZ engine doesn't like to be run cold because the oil operates the lift mechanism on the cams and the oil needs to be at or above a certain temp to work correctly. This may explain why the 2ZZ GT motor doesn't like to rev above 6000-rpm when cold (cold oil and a more restrictive air inlet): http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=433So the only caveat to adding a CAI to a 2ZZ GT engine would be to allow it to fully warm up (which may now take slightly longer) before driving it hard.
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sharky · Post by **sharky** » Mon Aug 26, 2002 11:11 pm

I can tell you thats true about the GT. I have taken it right out of my drive way (cold) and take the rpm's up past 6000 and there was no extra boost. at first I was a little shocked, thinking i did something...but the car is still stock. after it warmed up though I was all set.

mu_ohio · Post by **mu_ohio** » Tue Aug 27, 2002 10:21 am

Yeah, the oil needs be a thin enough to create enough pressure for the cam to switch over. Thus the oil has to warm up to thin out and Toyota was smart enough to monitor the temp so that you don't kill your engine. Just curious but why is everyone going for the Injen CAI? I ordered the AEM model and it should be on the way within a few weeks.

sharky · Post by **sharky** » Tue Aug 27, 2002 11:35 am

I agree I like the AEM much better espacially the Air Bypass valve. I like the thought of this by pass incase of water. They also have some other great parts. Pulleys....and big brakes!!!http://www.aempower.com

ullbergm · Post by **ullbergm** » Tue Aug 27, 2002 11:41 am

quote:I ordered the AEM model and it should be on the way within a few weeks. let us know how it goes.also, anybody trying it on a base vibe?

sharky · Post by **sharky** » Tue Aug 27, 2002 11:49 am

this company seems to have some good prices for parts, they dont list the vibe but if you call im sure they have more accurate info. Or you could go to aem's website and get the part number then call this company for a price.http://www.autocarparts.com/
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NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Tue Aug 27, 2002 9:18 pm

quote:I agree I like the AEM much better espacially the Air Bypass valve. I like the thought of this by pass incase of water.You think that AEM bypass valve is so great? Read this:http://www.aempower.com/voluntary.htmquote:Voluntary Safety Repair/Replacement for AEM Air Bypass ValveAdvanced Engine Management, Inc. (AEM) and NHTSA Announce Voluntary Repair of Air Bypass Valve [Los Angeles, CA] [Washington, D.C.] -- In voluntary cooperation with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), Advanced Engine Management, Inc. (AEM) of Hawthorne, California is voluntarily recalling about 3000 AEM Air Bypass Valves sold to consumers by independent distributors and retailers between August 2000 and January 31, 2001. Under certain circumstances, the Air Bypass Valve (constructed of 2 plastic pieces sonically welded together with a silicon diaphragm and foam spring on the inside) may come apart and, in certain cases, the diaphragm and/or foam spring may be ingested into the throttle body, sometimes forcing the throttle to stick in an open position. This may present a driving hazard to consumers who have installed the AEM Air Bypass Valve.AEM has received three reports of the Air Bypass Valve coming apart. One of these reports described possible damage to the user's throttle body. Another of these reports described the diaphragm and/or foam spring being ingested into the throttle body, forcing the throttle to stick in an open position. The other of these reports described the valve coming apart with no resulting damage to the throttle body and no sticking of the throttle. No injuries have been reported. The recalled Air Bypass Valves are identified by AEM part numbers 20-401, 20-402 or 20-403. The affected valves were sold to consumers only between August 2000 and January 31, 2001.The subject valve is easily fixed, and AEM will provide all consumers of the AEM Air Bypass Valve with a free easy-to-install clip to prevent the diaphragm and/or foam spring from being ingested into the throttle body. However, consumers who have installed the subject Air Bypass Valves on their automobiles should not drive or operate their vehicles until either the Air Bypass Valve is immediately and entirely removed or the remedial clip is installed. The remedial action should take no longer than 5 minutes to complete. The installation of the remedial clip is a simple procedure that will fully remedy the potential problem. While the remedial measure is not necessary for AEM Air Bypass Valves purchased after January 31, 2001, consumers with any concerns regarding these later-sold units may also obtain the free easy-to-install remedial clip.Only those AEM Air Bypass Valves identified by AEM part numbers 20-401, 20-402 and 20-403 which were sold to consumers between August 2000 and January 31, 2001 are the subject of this recall. AEM Air Bypass Valves sold after January 31, 2001 are not affected, and consumers of AEM products bearing AEM part numbers other than 20-401, 20-402 and 20-403 need not be concerned.AEM reminds its customers and consumers that the AEM Air Bypass Valve is designed and intended for use only with the AEM Cold Air Intake systems. Use of the AEM Air Bypass Valve in conjunction with any other system is neither recommended nor warranted and may result in, among other things, malfunction of the AEM Air Bypass Valve.For further information, consumers should call AEM at (310) 484-2322 x500 between 9:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m. (PST) Monday through Friday

NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Tue Aug 27, 2002 9:22 pm

quote:anybody trying it on a base vibe?AEM only makes an intake for the Matrix XRS (2ZZ motor) none for the standard Matrix with the 1ZZ motor or any Vibe.

sharky · Post by **sharky** » Tue Aug 27, 2002 9:36 pm

thx for the info....but i still will go for AEM over Injen.quote:Only those AEM Air Bypass Valves identified by AEM part numbers 20-401, 20-402 and 20-403 which were sold to consumers between August 2000 and January 31, 2001 are the subject of this recall. AEM Air Bypass Valves sold after January 31, 2001 are not affected, and consumers of AEM products bearing AEM part numbers other than 20-401, 20-402 and 20-403 need not be concerned.lots of products including the Vibe have had recalls, and we all still drive our cars, and ppl are still buying the vibe. as long as the company admits there was a problem,fixed it, and stands behind there products...i'll still buyI do appreciate the notice, nothing bets a fellow member looking out for everyone
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mu_ohio · Post by **mu_ohio** » Wed Aug 28, 2002 7:21 am

quote:anybody trying it on a base vibe?AEM only makes an intake for the Matrix XRS (2ZZ motor) none for the standard Matrix with the 1ZZ motor or any Vibe.Actually the 2zz intake from AEM works for both the Vibe and Matrix.

NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Wed Aug 28, 2002 8:30 pm

quote:Actually the 2zz intake from AEM works for both the Vibe and Matrix.Yes, but ullbergm asked about adding an intake to a base Vibe (1ZZ engine) and AEM only makes an intake for the 2ZZ motor, not the 1ZZ motor.
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mu_ohio · Post by **mu_ohio** » Thu Aug 29, 2002 10:04 am

quote:Actually the 2zz intake from AEM works for both the Vibe and Matrix.Yes, but ullbergm asked about adding an intake to a base Vibe (1ZZ engine) and AEM only makes an intake for the 2ZZ motor, not the 1ZZ motor.I was refering to your quote which stated that they don't make it for the base engine or any Vibe.

NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Thu Aug 29, 2002 11:42 am

They don't make one for any Vibe. Go to their site. Vibe is not listed. Just because it fits the Matrix XRS doesn't mean it will fit the Vibe GT. It may but they don't claim that it does. There may be some reason why they don't list teh same parts for the Vibe that we are not aware of. Unless they say it fits, I wouldn't try it. I found this out with the Injen intake. And there have been people who have tried the Injen intake for the Matrix XRS on their Vibe GT. They did get it to work but not exactly like the instructions said. Just a word of warning to those about to shell out the cash.

old man winter · Post by **old man winter** » Fri Aug 30, 2002 3:29 am

This is what I posted in the TRD Parts for Matrix/Vibe.I was thinking about the TRD exhaust for my Vibe Gt. Will it fit or is there some slight differance in dimensions on the Matrix vs Vibe in the exhaust pipe route. What would happen if you could use the TRD exhaust on the Vibe anong with a INJEN CAI. Would this result in the jump to 200 hp?What do you think?
[Modified by old man winter, 2:29 PM 8/30/2002]

mu_ohio · Post by **mu_ohio** » Sat Aug 31, 2002 7:20 am

quote:They don't make one for any Vibe. Go to their site. Vibe is not listed. Just because it fits the Matrix XRS doesn't mean it will fit the Vibe GT. It may but they don't claim that it does. There may be some reason why they don't list teh same parts for the Vibe that we are not aware of. Unless they say it fits, I wouldn't try it. I found this out with the Injen intake. And there have been people who have tried the Injen intake for the Matrix XRS on their Vibe GT. They did get it to work but not exactly like the instructions said. Just a word of warning to those about to shell out the cash.Others have tried it and because of the design it's not hindered by the headlight like the Injen. Plus it's only $220, not like I'm strapping on a $3000 super charger here. LOL

TwIsTeD_ViBe · Post by **TwIsTeD_ViBe** » Sun Sep 01, 2002 1:20 pm

About the intake did u have u cut it or did u have 2??? if u didnt have 2 cut it i think it wouldve got colder air the way it was before u cut it..quote:Basically just cut it in half. If you look at the picture above (with the tube wrapped in plastic, sitting on the box) I cut it right about where the tube goes behing the filter.These two pictures might help:Full length on a Matrix:My custom-cut, short-ram version to fit a base Vibe:

NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Sun Sep 01, 2002 11:37 pm

quote:About the intake did u have u cut it or did u have 2??? if u didnt have 2 cut it i think it wouldve got colder air the way it was before u cut it..Hey Mr. Ebonics, first, why don't you start with using proper English and learn how to spell. Second, the answer to your question is already in this thread. Try actually reading the whole thread.

TwIsTeD_ViBe · Post by **TwIsTeD_ViBe** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 12:11 am

quote:About the intake did u have u cut it or did u have 2??? if u didnt have 2 cut it i think it wouldve got colder air the way it was before u cut it..Hey Mr. Ebonics, first, why don't you start with using proper English and learn how to spell. Second, the answer to your question is already in this thread. Try actually reading the whole thread. WoaH.. Excuse me!!! Just a simple question no need for all that!! And since when is there a rule that i need 2 use proper english WHAT da HecK do U thINk Im DoiNG!!!

NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 7:09 am

Must I really explain this? I don't know you from Adam. My only way to tell what type of person your are (and level of intelligence) is by your words and how you type. If you want to type like a 10-year-old, I'll treat you like a 10-year-old. If you want to be treated like an adult, type like an adult and use proper English. You may be the smartest person in the world but if you choose to talk like an illiterate you will be thought of as an illiterate. You wouldn't type up a job resume that way, would you? I'm not trying to attack you personally, just telling you how the world works.Wait, maybe you'll understand it better if I say it this way:Must ah' real 'esplain dis? ah' duzn't know ya' fum Adam. WORD! Mah' only way 2 tell whut type uh sucka' yo' is (and level uh intelligence) be by yo' wo'ds and how ya' type. If ya' wanna type likes some 10-year-old, I'll treat ya' likes some 10-year-old. If ya' wanna be treated likes an adult, type likes an adult and use propuh' English. You's may b da damn smartest sucka' in de wo'ld but if ya' choose 2 talk likes an illiterate ya' gots'ta b tought uh an illiterate. You's wouldn't type down some job resume dat way, would ya'? I'm not tryin' 2 attack ya' sucka'ally, plum tellin' ya' how de wo'ld wo'ks.
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TwIsTeD_ViBe · Post by **TwIsTeD_ViBe** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 7:18 am

OHH MY GOD!! Man just a simple question... get a grip!!!

mu_ohio · Post by **mu_ohio** » Mon Sep 02, 2002 9:23 am

Does the Ebonics CAI fit on the Vibe GT? LOL

d_m_kolb · Post by **d_m_kolb** » Sat Oct 19, 2002 11:39 am

The custom CAI can be done to a Vibe. Read this post. My last few replies explain how.http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=178

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » Sat Oct 19, 2002 3:44 pm

Apparently, Performance Tuning has a Injen CAI made for the Vibe BASE and AWD! Check it out at http://www.ptuning.com/html/search-resu ... bYear=2003 Or go to the site, search under Vibe and see all the stuff they got for it! Injen oil caps, Borla exhaust, race pedals. I'm a much happier person now!

MiamiVibe · Post by **MiamiVibe** » Sun Oct 20, 2002 7:29 am

I dont know how much to trust them because I dont see anything on the Injen site. So just to make sure I wrote to them asking that if I buy it for my Vibe and it doesnt fit would I get my money back.

NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Sun Oct 20, 2002 11:43 am

DON'T GET IT! The part number for the base Vibe intake is the exact same number for the base Matrix. It is also the same one I bought and it DOES NOT FIT! Read all about it on page one and two of this thread.

MiamiVibe · Post by **MiamiVibe** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 6:51 am

Well i wrote to ptuning to see what they say, think they are scaming us for money

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » Fri Oct 25, 2002 8:41 pm

It took me 3 hours to do it, but I got the Injen CAI installed on my BASE VIBE! The trick was to take off the lower part of the bumber and open up the wheel well. Yes at first the filter would not go on the end due to the fog light being in the way. So I decided between taking out the fog light and make it a RAM CAI (hehehe) or taking off the bumber. Since I didn't have the right tools to take out the light I chose taking off the bumber. It was a PAIN IN THE *** to do (I think I got the right screws in the right holes?), but it paid off. The filter is on the end of the intake about 1 1/2" more and with that it can be angled just enough, but the air flow is not restriced and does use all of the filter. I also got the Injen Oil cap to dress up the engine some more. Part# ptrd2065 from ptuning.com I'll post the step by step pic's tonight in the 'Forced Induction' forum.

mu_ohio · Post by **mu_ohio** » Sat Oct 26, 2002 4:27 am

quote:It took me 3 hours to do it, but I got the Injen CAI installed on my BASE VIBE! The trick was to take off the lower part of the bumber and open up the wheel well. Yes at first the filter would not go on the end due to the fog light being in the way. So I decided between taking out the fog light and make it a RAM CAI (hehehe) or taking off the bumber. Since I didn't have the right tools to take out the light I chose taking off the bumber. It was a PAIN IN THE *** to do (I think I got the right screws in the right holes?), but it paid off. The filter is on the end of the intake about 1 1/2" more and with that it can be angled just enough, but the air flow is not restriced and does use all of the filter. I also got the Injen Oil cap to dress up the engine some more. Part# ptrd2065 from ptuning.com I'll post the step by step pic's tonight in the 'Forced Induction' forum.The install of the Injen CAI that I did yesterday was about the same. I had my girlfriend help though so I didn't have to completely take apart the bumper. The fog light is the biggest problem with the Vibes which causes a lot of problems, but a second hand really help. Removal of stock box = 15 minutesDoing all the prep work = 15 minutesScrewing with getting the air filter on = 1 1/2 hours