Another Tundra recall

[scherry2]

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs...ments another Toyota recall on the 07 Tundra.

[Stang2Vibe]

Bummer. I was actually considering a new Tundra 4X4 Limited with the CrewMax cab. I'm glad I went with the Yukon that I bought and saved the extra $42759 that the Tundra would have cost me. 43 grand can buy a lot of gas and lots of awesome accessories for a Yukon!But I liked the look and power of the new Tundra. The image was a nice departure from the typically mudane, whimpy looking vehicles they generally produced. But they were still better looking than Hondas, the Honda is still mundane and whimpy looking, but add to that a look of drug-induced happiness and you've got typical Honda styling. The one Honda exception is the Ridgeline, though it's brawny styling still gives the impression of being a paper tiger. Looks tough but not substantial enough to back up the looks.The linked article mentions a recall on 20 of the V8 engines due to faulty camshafts. A recall on 20 vehicles isn't even worth publicizing so I can let that slide, at least they owned up to their error and are replacing the entire engines on the vehicles affected. But driveshafts falling apart? If you're going after the truck lines of the American big 3 on their home turf, you'd better be doing it with a rock-solid drivetrain at the very least. Billy-Bob and the rest of his good ol' boy buddies won't be buying any of "them thar Tieyoders" if the driveshafts are falling apart when they're on their way to go swampin'.The article also mentions that Toyota is still on a learning curve when it comes to pickups. I have to disagree here. Toyota has been making rear wheel drive pickups and SUV's of various types for several decades now. They know what a driveshaft is. Somebody just dropped the ball in a really bad way on these new trucks.

[AKLGT]

wow. that sucks. They are really having all kinds of issues with the new Tundras.

[tangerine]

Poor Tonka toy Tundras. Maybe they should buy a real truck.

[scherry2]

Quote, originally posted by djb383 ».............from the mouths of babe's.comes intelligence.no denying it Toyota Tundra Has major recall problems.sludge in engines bad camshaftsgrowl/vibration in the transmissionpropsharts breakingfuel railsGM truck recalls in the last 2 yearstail gate straps 2007power steering hose may leak 2006175 trailer wire harnesses 2006aftermarket headlamps missing amber side lens 2006wrong tire and rim label in glove box 2006I would rather drive 60 MPH in a Chevy thank you

[NibCrom]

GM ftw.

[scherry2]

Quote, originally posted by djb383 »If Chevy has had 90 years practice, why are they still having recalls.its called vendor qualityQuote, originally posted by djb383 »The sludge thing is OLD news now but yet you bring up past GM problems that you had on pre 2007 vehicles.buy what you want I just know that Toyota has had more problems mechanically and saftey wise on a launch of a new truck than GM has has on any launch of a new truck. and Toyota in the past few years has looked more quality wise like GM of the 80's.

[scherry2]

For the second straight year, General Motors is in a position to win the honors of North American Car and Truck of the Year. The winners will be announced at the start of the North American International Auto Show in Detroit January 13th. This year, of the six finalists, four are GM Models. The Cadillac CTS, Chevy Malibu, and Honda Accord are up for car of the year. The Buick Enclave, Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid and Mazda CX-9 are the finalists for truck of the year. Any way you look at those two lists, one thing is clear, GM's designers are finally getting the recognition they deserve for remaking their portfolio. HMMM not toyota truck even in the running.

[tangerine]

Best truck on the road:Duramax+allison FTW.

[AKLGT]

i LOVED my 01 Toyota Tundra V8 truck. it was awesome! if i had been able to keep it, I'd still have it! Though I like the new Tundras, I know they have a lot of issues in that new tranny. not that I plan to buy one, but if i were, I'd certainly wait until they got their act together. I'd still buy a Tundra over a GM any day.... sorry, but true.

[ToolGuy]

I find this thread amusing... And here is why.Like other forums I have seen and belong to, as soon as someone posts on a foreign cars issues or reliability, all the foreign car people jump all over the US car people.However if a foreign car supporter posts on US car issues or reliability it is OK because after all, it is a US car and they all suck. All the foreign car supporters jump on the band wagon and really bring down the US car market.Fact of the matter is, NO car company goes without issues and recalls. Recalls are mainly safety driven as well. The more vehicles you sell the more issues you will have too. All the point of this thread was to state that Toyota is NOT perfect. Besides what Consumer Reports and other media channels describe! It just calls light to the fact Toyota too will sell more vehicles and two things are going to happen. More issues or recalls will happen and you will see parts will be made cheaper as Toyota like the big three, will have to squeeze its suppliers on costs and materials. My Vibe has been to the dealer twice. Once for a new cat under the rotten egg TSB and the tire TSB. You could say first model year woes or you could say that is not bad or whatever... My Vibe has been a great car and I am keeping it for awhile. Likewise, I had a 1987 Cavalier RS that had been to the dealer once in the 11 years and 130,000 miles I put on it. I traded it in and saw it on the streets for two more years. Great car as well and that was then!

[scherry2]

no problem here.I work in the reliability dept of GM. if 1 part is found bad there are others in that build cycle. your comment about 1 propshaft shows just that ignorance. I've been on plenty of yard surveys to tell you, in all honesty, its just not 1 part out of the 1000 they just built on 1 shift.here is a question for you if there was only 1 reported propshaft why did Toyota issue a recall.why because there are more......and reading your post then reading mine it sounds like you have the problem.

[drunkenmaxx]

ha, do you people get this way over Coke vs Pepsi too?

[Sputnik]

Quote, originally posted by MiVibe-ToolGuy »Fact of the matter is, NO car company goes without issues and recals. Recalls are mainly safety driven as well. The more vehicles you sell the more issues you will have too. Thats right. So enough of this bickering over who's better. Thanks.

[AKLGT]

Quote, originally posted by MiVibe-ToolGuy »I find this thread amusing... And here is why.Like other forums I have seen and belong to, as soon as someone posts on a foreign cars issues or reliability, all the foreign car people jump all over the US car people.However if a foreign car supporter posts on US car issues or reliability it is OK because after all, it is a US car and they all suck. All the foreign car supporters jump on the band wagon and really bring down the US car market.Fact of the matter is, NO car company goes without issues and recalls. Recalls are mainly safety driven as well. The more vehicles you sell the more issues you will have too. All the point of this thread was to state that Toyota is NOT perfect. Besides what Consumer Reports and other media channels describe! It just calls light to the fact Toyota too will sell more vehicles and two things are going to happen. More issues or recalls will happen and you will see parts will be made cheaper as Toyota like the big three, will have to squeeze its suppliers on costs and materials. My Vibe has been to the dealer twice. Once for a new cat under the rotten egg TSB and the tire TSB. You could say first model year owes or you could say that is not bad or whatever... My Vibe has been a great car and I am keeping it for awhile. Likewise, I had a 1987 Cavalier RS that had been to the dealer once in the 11 years and 130,000 miles I put on it. I traded it in and saw it on the streets for two more years. Great car as well and that was then! +111111very well said!

[AKLGT]

Quote, originally posted by drunkenmaxx »ha, do you people get this way over Coke vs Pepsi too? (removed)!!!!

[tangerine]

Quote, originally posted by drunkenmaxx »ha, do you people get this way over Coke vs Pepsi too? No way..Gotta have Coke with my rum, and Pepsi owns Gatorade so they both win!

[scherry2]

Quote, originally posted by djb383 »Dude, re-read the link you posted, "There has been ONE occurrence of the problem, with no accidents or injuries.........." as quoted in the link you posted.Geez, your a GM employee, now we understand why you started the thread. That's sad. as I know by working in the reliability dept of GM. if you have 1 bad part you have more. if you want to think that only 1 part is bad out of a run cycle of 1000 you go right ahead. I have negotiated days off. if its really any of your business. but in a losing battle the loser usually throws out a dig of a completely irrelevantat topic at the other person. just like you did with the work slam. and since we are on the topic did you know that GM has 2 shifts at most of their plants? show that ignorance a little more would you.Where I work has little to do with why I posted the link. it was info on the others. and according to you since I'm a GM employee I can't post info on other vehicles especially Toyota which my vibe is 1/2? all I posted was a link. I never made a bad comment about it. your the one that jumped on the defensive.

[drunkenmaxx]

yeah, but if i listened to critics, i would be claiming "Babel" to be one of my favorite movies. "Babel" is one of the worst pieces of random crap thrown together, but the critics thought it was the bees knees.

[ColonelPanic]

Just because it's car/truck of the year doesn't automatically make it a good vehicle though.... Hell, the 1997 Chevrolet Malibu won car of the year and look at much of a POS those things were. What I do find interesting is how MT brushed off all the nagging little quality problems that cropped up on the Tundra and let it win. If that was a Chevy they were talking about, they would have tore it to bits over those issues and it would have lost. A page out of the ol' Consumer Reports playbook. LOL!

[joatmon]

Toyota rightfully earned a reliability reputation at one point. There is a strong bias across the automotive enthusiast public for anything Japanese, some people get almost religious about it. Some people seem to get way too much satisfaction watching the demise of the US manufacturing industry.

[drunkenmaxx]

it's all about rooting for the winning team, not caring what your home team is!

[scherry2]

Quote, originally posted by djb383 »My, my, my............what sour grapes sour grapes? (removed) is your problem?I'm glad the Toyota Tundra has gotten recognition from a magazine. I'm glad they build them in the U.S.never in any post here have I said anything derogatory about Toyota or the Tundra. I stated facts. you on the other hand find it necessary to slam me and GM vehicles.

[AKLGT]

LOLI have learned from past car buying experience to do your research before buying! I loved my 01 Tundra, great truck for me. I love the new Tundra's as well. I'd buy one, but from quite a few folks that have the new ones, there are many little bugs in the new system. So, I'd rather wait and make sure they fix them. Besides, I'm not willing to pay all that money for one when I plan to use it like a truck. I made that mistake once. I'd rather pick up an older used 01-03 Tundra instead. IMO, Toyota still makes good quality products, even if the exterior gets a tad bit bland. There are many GM products that have caught my eye now like the Solstice, Sky, new Camaro, Trailblazer SS, etc. GM's starting to build quality again and that imo is worth something. I'm happy with my Subies for now, however, when it comes to truck time, I'll probably be back in a Tundra or pick up a Trailblazer.

[djb383]

This thread got way out of hand. To scherry2, I apologize. Hope everyone has a safe Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.