And it was all caught on video. I have to agree with some of the comments that you see about the vids. This was a total violation of his rights. Yeah he was a jerk, and a douche, but he has the right to be.Partial vid - good qaulity vidhttp://www.ocala.com/article/2...clickFull vidhttp://video.nbc6.net/player/?id=157250
wow, that is 100% resisting arrest. i don't think they were going to arrest him at first, just pull him out of the room, but by yelling "get your hands off me" and then slipping out of their grasp, twice, that's when he really made things bad for himself. totally deserved arrest.
I think people forget the rules of the police.1st comes Verbal warnings and commands. If those are not followed then restraint is allowed. If restraint is not working then Tasering is the next use of force. Then you move onto batans to subdue. Finally they issue deadly force by use of firearms. Follow those simple steps and you will see why they did what they did. I have no pateince or justification for people who cannot follow a direction from an officer. If you don't obey them and try to argue, you deserve whats coming.Some kid at UCLA pulled this crap in a campus library and would not leave, so he got the taser, then he would not get up and refused to budge once cuffed. Tasered again. People like this should watch COPS more often and realize that they do not take crap. Back in the day when my grandfather was a Sgt. this guy would have been beaten to all hell and that would have been it.
Didn't Kerry say (as the cops grabbed the student) "that's alright, let me answer the question" and the cops continued to haul him off and they did so a little premature, IMO.
Quote, originally posted by Whelan »I think people forget the rules of the police.Some kid at UCLA pulled this crap in a campus library and would not leave, so he got the taser, then he would not get up and refused to budge once cuffed. Tasered again. And those cops were fired for that if I am not mistaken.
Quote, originally posted by 98ex »And those cops were fired for that if I am not mistaken.I never read into it, I saw it on youtube and thought that was justified too. Maybe next time the kid will respond and get up and walk out when police get in his face. And as for this kid in Florida, apparently he has a history of pulling this junk. He spoke out of turn, spoke with foul language, and would not stop ranting once he was done to let the speaker finish. Then he yells towards police, causes a scene, refuses to leave, resists the officers. At that point, I would have taken my taser out, warned him just like they did, and when he didn't comply, ZAAAAP! I said it over at MO, the officer clearly in the video at least once raised the taser and put it back down so threats were made for the use of the weapon. The second time when he was saying don't taser me, well...sometimes you just should follow directions given the first time. To me this is the same kid that in ten years will either become the next Cindy Sheehan or fat **** Michael Moore. Or better yet, like the woman who sued Mc D's for hot coffee, or even better, the one who put her RV on cruise control, walked back to make a sandwich, rolled the thing over then sued cause the Cruise Control didn't say you had to remain at the wheel. Give me a break.
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ok so obviously..this kid craves attention...and deserved what came to him because of using foul language, refusing to leave when asked, shouting, refusing to be escorted out of the room..and ultimatly resisting arrest...and IMO...has a mental problem....why did he think they're going to kill him.....(removed)!...ive been witness to lots of tasering even though ive only been in the emergency services for 3 years... refusing to comply with orders after verbal warning is just asking for a taser to be used against you.....also IMO ...this is yet another classic example of another version of these "special" people you hear in the news every now and then..or also IMO yet again..the 2/3 of the population that have no point in being born to begin with...
Kerry actually voted to have the kid tasered, before he voted against it.
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Kid deserved what he got. That's what you should get for being a (removed). And they shouldn't fire police officers for doing their job. I hope he rots in jail.
Quote, originally posted by K-NINE »Kerry actually voted to have the kid tasered, before he voted against it.nobody knows for sure, he droned on and they all fell asleep.orhe only voted for it because Gomez told him to, then Morticia got to him and he changed his vote
Quote, originally posted by joatmon »he only voted for it because Gomez told him to, then Morticia got to him and he changed his voteI just spurt some yogurt out my nose, thanks.As far as the guy goes, he should have known better.I guess he can say that he learned at least one thing in university, and an important lesson at that, ie: "Tasers don't tickle"
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I'd have to agree with those that say the cops did NOT use excessive force here. (Though the UCLA case was very different, and I still beleive that the force there was very unjustified... especially since the suspect was not creating any disturbance prior to being initially confronted by police.)However, in this case, the suspect is obviously using a Q/A period as a personal podium and was initially lead away from the microphone by police. (Though I would argue that John Kerry should have been the one to request that he be removed from the microphone and not security). I seriously doubt he was being "arrested", as he was likely just being removed from the microphone (and probably being escorted out). He was likely just being removed from a scene that security (rightly or wrongly) saw as becoming increasingly inflammatory... The kid's actions after being lead away from the microphone it what lead to the arrest, his actions after being placed under arrest is what lead to the Tazer. If he felt that his voice was being unfairly muffled at a political function, he'd have grounds for a 1st amendment lawsuit latter.Though, IANAL, I do believe that law enforcement actually has to tell you that you under arrest before you are under any legal obligation to submit to being handcuffed or detained. It's hard to tell if that actually happened here. But then again, you can be arrested for refusing to obey an officer... so it becomes a gray area, IMO.(Ie. the TV show COPS always shows suspects being being handcuffed "for the officer's protection"... though a suspect would legally right to object and request that an actual arrest be made first. Though, I never actually see that happen... and they probably wouldn't show it, if it did. In other words, you can't resist arrest until placed under arrest.. But, I think that this is another example of people voluntarily giving up rights in hopes that it will sever them better in the long run... but that is another rant....)