TRD 1zz supercharger

[andrewmva]

TRD plans to release the SC kit for the 1zz powered vibe/matrixboost is set at 7.5lbs and you should see about 180-190hp at the wheels!!! I believe that they are taking orders NOW!!!! who's ready to drop the coin and get some boost???

[KSNeptune]

quote:I believe that they are taking orders NOW!!!!who's ready to drop the coin and get some boost?Prove it. I'm ready, but only if the size of the coin required is reasonable.KSNeptune

[cohocarl]

Could be a few months yet before we get blown:http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=2306

[andrewmva]

I will find out the ordering info.... look inthe new superstreet mag there is a press release stating mid FEB for a release time.

[redtrdmatrix]

I say we do a group buy for that

[Faultline]

I wish it was 180 to 190hp at the wheels , but the adds I saw said 35% more power , which would be 175hp at the crank! ...and around 170lbs of torque... which is the good part I think! Unless you kow a few tricks to tweek the the power up Mr. Andew???

[NY Pete]

quote:I wish it was 180 to 190hp at the wheels , but the adds I saw said 35% more power , which would be 175hp at the crank! ...and around 170lbs of torque... which is the good part I think! Andrew's probably in the ballpark... Figure this motor is the same motor that is rated at 140hp in the corolla... and it dyno's out almost identical as stock... so 140 x 1.35 = 189!! Yeeah buddy!I just hope that the factory supercharger will help my base Vibe keep up with my fiancee's '02 1.8T Jetta (180hp)...!Pete

[Shadow Realm]

It should be able to blow the doors off that Jetta when you SC it. The base will be albe to beat the GT and the GT beats the Jetta.

[slbpsi63]

We will be serious contenders when we strap the SC on. Can you say Fried Rice!!!!!!!!!!

[mu_ohio]

quote:I wish it was 180 to 190hp at the wheels , but the adds I saw said 35% more power , which would be 175hp at the crank! ...and around 170lbs of torque... which is the good part I think! Andrew's probably in the ballpark... Figure this motor is the same motor that is rated at 140hp in the corolla... and it dyno's out almost identical as stock... so 140 x 1.35 = 189!! Yeeah buddy!I just hope that the factory supercharger will help my base Vibe keep up with my fiancee's '02 1.8T Jetta (180hp)...!PeteI would be careful what numbers you use when factoring the 35%. If Toyota saw a 35% increase using their numbers, then that might be less than using a number that is in question. I would be more incline to go with the 175/170 rating until Toyota changes all of it's numbers. Secondly, I'm not seeing where the add states that it will add 35% to peak. Just like with a lot of bolt-ons, the manufacturer claims the largest gain. For example, Injen claims a gain of 15 hp for it's intake. That gain is not at the engine peak, but past that. At peak it only add 9 hp. What I'm saying, wait until the thing is on a car and tested before we jump to too many conclusions. Just remember that the torque heavy V-Spec was misleading once they took it to the dyno.

[DABEAR95]

quote:It should be able to blow the doors off that Jetta when you SC it. The base will be albe to beat the GT and the GT beats the Jetta.I agree that the base supercharged will have more power under the curve and will be more enjoyable to drive around town, but the GT has a gearing advantage which allows it to put more power down at peak. I think a base supercharged Vs. a GT would be an interesting race FOR SURE Jason

[andrewmva]

I'll put my money on the GT

[TGebiV]

lol you say fried rice but think your car is a ricer tooo????? toyota motor???? hmmmm????yeah we have uncle bens i guess?? we drive ricers too

[Faultline]

quote:I'll put my money on the GT ..truly said by a 2zz owner ... but do you care to elaberate why? you are the 1st to say so- everyone else is saying 1zz+SC=faster or race winner---seems like the torque with the SC would decide in favor for the 1zz --what do you know that you did not say???

[mu_ohio]

quote:I'll put my money on the GT ..truly said by a 2zz owner ... but do you care to elaberate why? you are the 1st to say so- everyone else is saying 1zz+SC=faster or race winner---seems like the torque with the SC would decide in favor for the 1zz --what do you know that you did not say??? I wouldn't put all your apples in one basket yet. Wait until the SC is out and see what it can do. Might be interesting to see if the 2zz was a short term solution to try to make a little money back of the investment or if the SC 1zz still isn't up to the challenge. Personally, I feel that they should couple the SC 1zz with a closer geared tranny like the 6 speed and have a really good car. Power and gearing, what a concept

[mu_ohio]

quote:if the sc is available for ther AWD, which I hope it is, but probobly wont be, Ill be kicken some asphalt, hehe........I've seen it stated in other places that it will not be. I guess the AWD system can't handle the extra torque. Plus why would a company want to have a sporty AWD car with a super charger, let alone a 5 spd manual? Now knowing how much you paid, I would think that the price would be getting close to the WRX wagon. I couldn't see much competition in Toyota's favor when an AWD car plus SC comes close to that of the WRX.

[andrewmva]

quote:I'll put my money on the GT ..truly said by a 2zz owner ... but do you care to elaberate why? you are the 1st to say so- everyone else is saying 1zz+SC=faster or race winner---seems like the torque with the SC would decide in favor for the 1zz --what do you know that you did not say??? basically it is all going to come down to the driver... I have had 600+ hp cars leave our shop and run 14's ...... I know funny.... but true... you can have all the power in the world -but if you cannot drive it does not matter..... I think a good driver and the 2zz will whoop on a 1zz with the SC... I need to see dynos first -but I'll run any SC 1zz with my 2zz and I know where my money will be POWER is NOT make a car fast!!! the driver does!!

[d_m_kolb]

When you make this bet my money is on the SC 1ZZ-FE with the same skill driver as the 2ZZ-GE. The 1ZZ will be well into it's power band before the 2ZZ can ever get started.Torque wins races. The problem may be in getting the tires to grip on launch though. I honestly don't even think it will be a good race.

[mu_ohio]

quote:When you make this bet my money is on the SC 1ZZ-FE with the same skill driver as the 2ZZ-GE. The 1ZZ will be well into it's power band before the 2ZZ can ever get started.Torque wins races. The problem may be in getting the tires to grip on launch though. I honestly don't even think it will be a good race.I don't know how you can be for sure that the SC 1zz will run mid 15s. I think it would have to run that to win from what I've seen. Even the Spec V with a lot more torque is only running mid 15s stock and that one is geared a lot better.

[DABEAR95]

quote:When you make this bet my money is on the SC 1ZZ-FE with the same skill driver as the 2ZZ-GE. The 1ZZ will be well into it's power band before the 2ZZ can ever get started.Torque wins races. The problem may be in getting the tires to grip on launch though. I honestly don't even think it will be a good race.Auto vs Auto?I know that I can launch my 2ZZ very near its powerband...Either way, they are nice looking cars that perform wellJason

[jeremyk]

With more torque, the 1zz SC won't need the close gearing of the six speed. Assuming equal HP, the SC would win.

[jeremyk]

Also:You can't possibly tell me that launching at/near the powerband on the 2zz is going to lead to a fast 1/4 mile. You'll blow your tires right off. My little base Vibe blows the tires off if I launch much over 2000 rpms. You'd really have to ride the clutch to keep the RPMS up and keep the tires from spinning.

[DABEAR95]

quote:With more torque, the 1zz SC won't need the close gearing of the six speed. Assuming equal HP, the SC would win.It all depends...Area under the curve is great, but the GT has a gearing advantage. I don't know what would win. I'm not bias because I have a GT. Actually I think I might have been happier with the base Vibe. My Golf is more fun to drive around town because it has ~165ft/lbs of torque at 1900 RPM...I think it would be a good race and I would be happy to participate No, you don't have to blow your tires of the line. I can't speak from experience with the Vibe because I am still driving it pretty easy (break-in), but with my old eclipse (99 GS-T Spyder) when it had mild mods and 230hp (stock tires) I was able to launch at 4,000 and keep it in boost without blowing the tires. I think my Vibe has better tires too.Remember the 17's that are optional on the GT are a Z rated tire and do provide much more grip than an all season tire (Except on snow!!!!!).Take a look at my post on this topic, to see how sad my Vibe looks with snow tires http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=2437Jason

[mu_ohio]

I'm still not seeing how the sc will shave more than a second off the quarter mile times. To say something like, "it wouldn't be a good race," would mean you should gain close to 1.5 seconds in quarter mile. I would wait until this thing comes out before people start shooting off their mouth. Heck, the Celica GTS was suppose to be a great car until it was tested and we found the gearing was bad.

[DABEAR95]

HEY!!!Re-read what I said Ohio. I said I think it would be a good race!Jason

[mu_ohio]

Replied to the wrong post. Most boards just allow you to post to the thread, but this one has you reply to a particular post in the thread. I do agree with you though in a way. I just feel that we have to wait and see what happens. We can all race my Mazada6 and see who wins in the end

[satur9]

mid 15's (removed)! there is a ridiculous number theres celica gts running 14's scc did it with just a short ram and exhaust. stock was 15.4 if i cant wip a 2zz i dont want it! (of course im lying id probably get it if it lost power, just saying supercharged rules.but seriously it shouldnt be a debate here its forced induction hands down. by the way mazda 6?? (removed) is a dual cone synchro sposed to do a mazda6 will get its a** handed to it by the sc vibe.

[mu_ohio]

I'm thinking mid 15s when comparing it with like vehicles. Like I said, we haven't seen one in person so it's all about guessing. For arguement sake, the SVT Focus weighs in at 2600 lbs, has 170 hp and 145 ft/lb torque. The 200 lb difference IMO closely off sets the difference in hp and torque between it and a SC Vibe. On the other end, the Spec-V has 175 hp, 180 ft/lb of torque, 6 spd and weighs 2700 lbs. Most of the reviews put it in the mid to high 15s. Again, it will have the same if not more torque than the SC Vibe.I do agree that it would lay the hurt on a stock GT, but I personally don't feel that you will dip into the low 15s. You also have to remember that we have more weight and a larger wheel size compared to the Celica. Also, the Mazda6 is tested at 15.4 in the quarter mile so I think it would be a decent race.

[andrewmva]

talk HP and wieght all day... The gearing will also have a big impact on the out come.... I'm ready to race any 1zz with an SC

[SFpower]

hey if anybody would like a turbo now on your celica,matrics,or vibe i can acomidate you right now. just did the vibe and put down 225hp at the ground and 217 torque . already have about 2 hundred hard miles on it without insident

[SFpower]

also were triing to get the car to the track tonight but our track is at 3000ft so ill thry and get some crrection factors and post the results tomarrow

[kdd5ltr]

Will you be able to work on the 2zz motor?

[Faultline]

Sf Power did my car, which is the 1zz, the 2zz is harder beause the compression is higher 11.5:1. the bore is wider and the stroke is shorter , which makes dentonation a more likely problem.. But mike can probably handle it though.