Did you guys see this last nite? What a joke it so turned me off Hmm which clown do we vote for?Mayoral rivals get loudEnglish Tv Debate. Tremblay, Bourque resort to outshouting each other LINDA GYULAIThe GazetteMonday, October 31, 2005CREDIT: PIERRE OBENDRAUF, THE GAZETTEA little body English: Former mayor Pierre Bourque (left) greets Mayor Gerald Tremblay before last night's unruly televised debate.The leading mayoral candidates bickered, interrupted and sniped their way through their second and last televised campaign debate last night.Gerald Tremblay and Pierre Bourque, who squared off in English on CTV Montreal (formerly CFCF) in a 30-minute duel, accused each other of flip-flops, of being responsible for the city's potholes and of being poor caretakers of public funds.Much of the debate was unintelligible because the two men spoke at the same time, sometimes trying to outshout each other. "They could just as easily have had them mud-wrestling," former Montreal city councillor Sam Boskey, who watched parts of the debate, said of the TV station.Bourque and Tremblay also bickered through most of their debate in French on a Radio-Canada news channel Thursday."You take people and you put them in situations where they're going to come out at their worst, yelling at each other. Ideas don't come through," said Boskey, who spent 16 years on city council.Boskey moderated an 11-person candidates' forum in Cote des Neiges/Notre Dame de Grace hosted by the N.D.G. Community Council on Wednesday night. The forum - which included borough mayoral candidates and council candidates for the two districts in N.D.G. - was orderly, he said. "I had a gavel."Last night's debate examined three themes - city finances, quality of life and economic development.Tremblay repeated much of what he said in French on Thursday, arguing that Bourque is a "one-man show" and a vestige of the past, while Bourque repeated his message that he will "cut the fat" by reducing the city's outsourcing and then reallocating $200 million from the savings to the boroughs to spend on services.Unlike in Thursday's debate, however, Bourque also emphasized last night that his platform promises to create a non-partisan ethics committee to scrutinize how city contracts are awarded and to restore city council's power to award contracts.Tremblay argued that during his opponent's two mandates as mayor from 1994 to 2001, Bourque allowed service cuts, including reductions to libraries.He said Bourque did not address such chronic problems as the city's damaged underground water network.Bourque accused Tremblay of cuts to libraries in the east end, as well as a marked deterioration in the state of city streets.Bourque provided a new addition to the municipal lexicon last night: "trous Tremblay," which translates into English as "Tremblay holes."During Thursday's debate, Tremblay dubbed the city's potholes "nids-de-Bourque," a play on the French term for pothole, "nid-de-poule."Bourque also accused the mayor of "lying" to suburbanites in the 2001 election when he pledged to stay neutral if the suburbs were given a chance by the province to hold demerger referendums. Instead, he campaigned against demerger last year.Tremblay retorted Bourque was absent from the demerger campaign while he was urging the suburbs to stay.Bourque ended the debate with a plea to Montrealers, especially renters, to go out and vote next Sunday.A weekend Journal de Montreal poll by Leger Marketing showed Tremblay was ahead with 47 per cent support, while Bourque had 29 per cent.However, 43 per cent said their choices could still change. Moreover, Bourque had greater support from tenants than Tremblay.Bourque reasoned because more of the city's tenants appear to support him over Tremblay and a majority of Montrealers are tenants, he could win the election if a high percentage of tenants vote on Sunday.As on Thursday, the city's two other mayoral candidates were absent from last night's melee.Projet Montreal leader Richard Bergeron, who was not invited to either televised debate, said he forgot about last night's event.White Elephant Party leader Michel Bedard said the "media dictatorship" refused to let him debate. He would have been able to underline both main candidates' lies, he
said.lgyulai@thegazette.canwest.comScorecardLoserTie: Gerald Tremblay and Pierre Bourquemost common accusation"Flip-flop."Best LineBourque: "The platform we are proposing wasn't written by me. It was written by you, by Montrealers, by the people. This is the people's platform."Worst LineBourque: "More than anything in this world, I want once again to be the people's mayor."Worst ExchangeBourque: "We ... (unintelligible as Tremblay interrupts)."Tremblay: "Why ... (unintelli-gible as Bourque interrupts)."Bourque: "We ... (unintelligible as Tremblay interrupts)."And so on.