Transponder in Vibe key?

Stereo, security systems, vehicle electronics, and electrical-related discussions
Post Reply
bash1979
Posts: 40
Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:43 pm

Transponder in Vibe key?

Post by bash1979 »

Hey folks,Wondering if someone can clarify something for me....i'm trying to get a remote car starter installed and one company quoted me around $150...I figure that sounds about right. THEN he says "wait, you have a 2005 Pontiac Vibe? That's an extra $100 because we have to bypass the transponder in your key".Now, I read through the manual up and down and I didn't see anything about a transponder. Am I missing something here? Does anyone know for sure about the transponder? Just want to make sure i'm not getting screwed!As usual, thanks in advance for the replies!
B.A.S.H.
russ257
Posts: 809
Joined: Wed Jun 18, 2003 8:18 am

Re: Transponder in Vibe key? (bash1979)

Post by russ257 »

i dont think there is a transponder in the key I have a 2003 and there is none. unless they changed something in the 05 easiest way to tell is by starting you car with a copied key.
'03 VIBE AWDPioneer AVIC-N1MOMO 6.5" componets in frontMOMO 6.5" speakers in rearJL e6450 six channel ampJL 12" w3 subAlpine 120W amp powering the sub
ragingfish
Posts: 11022
Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2002 8:23 am

Post by ragingfish »

05 manual makes no mention of passkey. In addition, the picture of the key in the manual is identical to the 03/04 key. Hence, your key is transponder-less. Tell them they're full of bunk.
YES!I still visit GenVibe periodically. I have not forgotten about my "original" family over here!

2009 PONTIAC G8
3.6L V6 (256 HP @ 6300 rpm, 248 ft-lbs. @ 2100 rpm)
jimincalif
Posts: 622
Joined: Sat Jul 12, 2003 1:59 am

Re: Transponder in Vibe key? (bash1979)

Post by jimincalif »

There is definitely no transponder in the 03 keys.
"We contend that for a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle." - Winston Churchill---------------------------------Who is John Galt?2 Vibes, 03GT & 07 base (kids drive)1993 Lexus LS4001980 Fiat Spider
Jahntassa
Posts: 2979
Joined: Wed Jul 09, 2003 2:06 pm

Post by Jahntassa »

Look at the key, at the bottom, where the metal part meets the plastic. If you don't see a little 'square' in the plastic on either side of the metal, you don't have a transponder.You don't need any special interfaces for the Vibe.
2003 Vibe GT Lava"He inched his way up the corridor as if he would rather be yarding his way down it.""For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen." - Douglas Adams...we all miss you
Jahntassa
Posts: 2979
Joined: Wed Jul 09, 2003 2:06 pm

Post by Jahntassa »

If you did have a GM transponder, typically they'd charge you $65 or so for the PASSKEY bypass, then whatever they felt like charging (usually around $20-$25) for the 'labor' of installing it above and beyond the security system.
2003 Vibe GT Lava"He inched his way up the corridor as if he would rather be yarding his way down it.""For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen." - Douglas Adams...we all miss you
zionzr2
Posts: 3174
Joined: Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:59 am
Location: Austin, TX

Post by zionzr2 »

my '04 has NO transponder....I had a couple spare keys made at Wal-mart shortly after i bought my vibe for a couple bucks and they work fine.
gargoyle
Posts: 460
Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2005 2:11 am

Re: Transponder in Vibe key? (bash1979)

Post by gargoyle »

I have an 05 too and there is not a transponder in the key. I tested it at work on the key cutting machine (it has an electronic tester to detect a transponder) specifically to see if it had one... and it does not. You should go back to them and raise all kinds of hell with a manager or someone higher up and maybe you can get a break on the original price as compensation for almost being ripped off.
fredfreedom
Posts: 157
Joined: Sat May 14, 2005 7:54 am

Re: Transponder in Vibe key? (bash1979)

Post by fredfreedom »

There's no transponder in the Vibe key. I own a 2005 Vibe and my insurance needed that I install an anti-starter (anti-démarreur) because we don't have the Pass-Key system.
2007 Moonstone VIBE FWD Special Edition with XM Satellite Radio, Stainless exhaust tip, 7 speakers, power group, 16 inch mags, Monotone, A/T, Slate interior, 50/80% Llumar platinium tinted windows, Sherlock Antitheft Marking, Barry Danne Grease Rust-Proofing, K&N air filter, MiVibe-ToolGuy fog lights protector, DIY 3M Filtrete cabin air filter, Toyota rear bumper protector, more to come...TOTALLED 2007-07-17 R.I.P. 2005 Moonstone VIBE FWD
bash1979
Posts: 40
Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:43 pm

Post by bash1979 »

Wow, thanks for the replies guys. I had a funny feeling about the guy in the first place....this just cemented it. I'll go find a more reputable dealer! Thanks again!
B.A.S.H.
disco277
Posts: 22
Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:23 pm

Re: (Jahntassa)

Post by disco277 »

Quote, originally posted by Jahntassa »Look at the key, at the bottom, where the metal part meets the plastic. If you don't see a little 'square' in the plastic on either side of the metal, you don't have a transponder.You don't need any special interfaces for the Vibe.I have an 05 and I do see a little platic square on my key, like you say, right where the metal meets the plastic. I don't know anything about passkey or a transponder though...Just my 2 cents.
2005 Base Vibe - AbyssPower PackageAlloy Rims
northvibe
Posts: 7641
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:25 pm

Post by northvibe »

If any keys do could it be from the anti-theft option?
bash1979
Posts: 40
Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:43 pm

Post by bash1979 »

Interesting....now that I look more closely at my key, I do kinda see a little plastic square. But it looks like it's filled in with more plastic. Almost looks like they put a hole in the key as if there was going to be a transponder, then filled it in with more plastic since there isn't one.It wouldn't surprise me if Pontiac uses the same generic plastic moulding for the keys for all their cars...then they can put transponders in the applicable ones, and fill in the others.
B.A.S.H.
gargoyle
Posts: 460
Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2005 2:11 am

Re: (northvibe)

Post by gargoyle »

Quote, originally posted by northvibe »If any keys do could it be from the anti-theft option?hhmmm... my key doesn't have a square, but I don't have the anti-theft option either..... oh.... wait..... um.... well... er.... I do, yeah, yeah!.. I DO have the anti theft thingie... so don't any of you be gettin' any ideas about stealing my car... cuz that anti-theft thingie is working just great!
tnpartsguy
Posts: 1590
Joined: Thu Dec 30, 2004 1:22 pm

Post by tnpartsguy »

No Vibe, to date, has a transponder key. Can't speak about the '06's yet.
Current Ride 2015 GMC Terrain SLT
2nd Vibe 2006 Vibe AWD Stealth Monotone "Recon" December 2005 MOTM
Original Vibe: 2003 AWD Abyss Monotone "Darth"
GM/ASE Certified Parts Manager.
russ257
Posts: 809
Joined: Wed Jun 18, 2003 8:18 am

Re: (tnpartsguy)

Post by russ257 »

that doesnt mean the salesman is nessicarlty dishonest just doesnt know how every car in the world is equipped. just tell him it doesnt have a transponder and see what he does
'03 VIBE AWDPioneer AVIC-N1MOMO 6.5" componets in frontMOMO 6.5" speakers in rearJL e6450 six channel ampJL 12" w3 subAlpine 120W amp powering the sub
binary
Posts: 1097
Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:37 am

Post by binary »

The anti-theft option added a glassbreak sensor and alarm that used the factory door pins / interior lamp - nothing in the ignition.
the_nite_owl
Posts: 104
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:34 pm

Re: Transponder in Vibe key? (bash1979)

Post by the_nite_owl »

I think it's been pretty well covered that the Vibe does not use a transponder but I had looked into this a week or two ago myself so figured I would throw it out there.I checked Bulldog's website as they have an application guide that tells which vehicles need bypass systems and they state that the Vibe does NOT require a bypass.
mikey00
Posts: 162
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2005 10:47 pm

Post by mikey00 »

There is no transponder in 05 Vibe key. This is one of the differences between the Matrix and Vibe. Matrix has it, Vibe does not. When I inquired about a remote starter they told me the same thing, another $100. I walked.
ragingfish
Posts: 11022
Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2002 8:23 am

Post by ragingfish »

I'm pretty sure the Matrix doesn't have it either. Where did you get this information?
YES!I still visit GenVibe periodically. I have not forgotten about my "original" family over here!

2009 PONTIAC G8
3.6L V6 (256 HP @ 6300 rpm, 248 ft-lbs. @ 2100 rpm)
mikey00
Posts: 162
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2005 10:47 pm

Re: (ragingfish)

Post by mikey00 »

Sure does. Check the Toyota website. It's called engine imobilizer on Toyota and Lexus products.
Jahntassa
Posts: 2979
Joined: Wed Jul 09, 2003 2:06 pm

Post by Jahntassa »

Only the 2005 Matrix has an RF Based transponder in the key, the 03 and 04 do not. No versions of the Vibe (to date) have a transponder.Ref: http://www.drdetailshop.com/Tr...e.htm
2003 Vibe GT Lava"He inched his way up the corridor as if he would rather be yarding his way down it.""For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen." - Douglas Adams...we all miss you
Post Reply