Feeler for possible group buy on CF Hood For the Vibe

[havock]

Hello everyone.. Im a Matrix owner and am currently active on Matrixowners.com and trixology.org. Im here because the Matrix is the Sister of the Vibe and vise versa.. and I wanted to extend an offer to you much like what im doing for my fellow matrix owners. JSP America Inc. who is a top name in the carbon fiber industry and supplies to vendors such as Summit Racing and JC Whitney are offering us the chance to make a hood for the pontiac vibe on a group buy. If we show enough interest then the production will go underway. If all goes well with this project then we are also trying to create a body kit and other visual enhancements for the Vibe. So here is an opportunity to get things rolling for our cars and getting parts that you can be proud to put on your Vibe. Heres what we would like to see. A minimum of 20 persons willing to join this group buy. We need atleast 10Some designs of the hood you wish to produce. If you want a scoop or no scoop.Functional or nonfunctional ect.Pricing will be calculated after the interest is shown and will be grouped by how many people we can get on this project as well as if the hood is going to be oem or with a scoop and how big the scoop is ect.. We can also offer this in Carbon Kevaler colors Blue, or Silver for you blue and silver Vibe owners for an additional $80.If you know of any other forum that we can post this in to produce enough interest and persons to get a great price let me know and we will do that as well.Remember this is an established company and their products are top of the line. We will not accept any product that has flaws or doesnt match up properly. So you can have faith in your product. SO lets get this thing going and get you something nice for you VibesPS the Group Buy price for the Matrix that I am starting would cost $415 for an oem hood + shipping and $465 for the m style scooped hood + shipping.

[damronjr]

Sign me up for with scoop, silver carbon fiber. get some pics of posibilities please. I was going to have VIS build a CF Invader style hood for me but they fell through on their promise date so I let it go. They wanted $700 for theirs, so $4anything is looking pretty good! Keep us informed.

[Psychobroker]

My understanding is that the Vibe and Matrix hoods are NOT interchangeable. Since they are not identical, the headlights alone will cause fittment problems. Are you willing to offer this GB knowing that you'll have to design hood molds specifically for our Vibes?EDIT: Jason, I could have warned you about VIS...they fell through on me over a year ago Although, I still might consider their OEM hood, but what I really wanted was the Invader.

[damronjr]

Quote, originally posted by Psychobroker »My understanding is that the Vibe and Matrix hoods are NOT interchangeable. Since they are not identical, the headlights alone will cause fittment problems. Are you willing to offer this GB knowing that you'll have to design hood molds specifically for our Vibes?He said it was just for the Vibe, so I assume he has other Vibe owners on the MO and other site looking for the same. That was what I was thinking anyways. Of course the Vibe and Matrix hoods are different.

[Psychobroker]

Quote, originally posted by damronjr »He said it was just for the Vibe, so I assume he has other Vibe owners on the MO and other site looking for the same. That was what I was thinking anyways. Of course the Vibe and Matrix hoods are different.Wellll...take a look at the MO.com thread. Assumptions that our hoods are identical were made EDIT: here's the MO.com thread...I didn't reply last night when I came across it b/c I was nodding off to sleep http://www.matrixowners.com/fo....htmlAnd excerpts:Quote »Copernicus:Yeah, the Vibe doesn't have the ridges in the hood like the matrix does. I guess if you like the matrix hood, you could still put it on. It just will not look the same. Quote »tecton: it will fit? bolt up, cover the engine bay as a hood is meant to do, all that good hood stuff?Quote »copernicus:Structurely the hood on the vibe is the same(there a prop rod on it). Unless the Vibe hood has a spring mechnizium(Sp?) on it, then it sort of the same.Erm...so I just posted an FYI.

[havock]

We understand that the vibe hood is different. Sorry for not clearifying myself. I started a gb for the matrix hood for matrix owners. This is a completely different project for a VIBE hood. However if you like the inverted M style scoop as we are doing for the matrix owners we could create a Vibe hood with that scoop...

[Psychobroker]

Great! Thanks for clarifying! When would the GB close? Do you know what kind of blue would be used? would it be similar to our Neptune blue (in my pic below)? I'd be in for an m-style hood, but can't spend the $$ on it for a few months.

[damronjr]

Quote, originally posted by Psychobroker »Great! Thanks for clarifying! When would the GB close? Do you know what kind of blue would be used? would it be similar to our Neptune blue (in my pic below)? I'd be in for an m-style hood, but can't spend the $$ on it for a few months.I'm in the same boat. I would like the M style as well with the silver CF, but need some time to get the $$ together. How soon are we talking here?

[rcasciola]

yea it would have to be in a little while, but definately with that scoop. id be in

[tecton]

i might be interested in thisim curious to see some ideas other members have for the designid definately want a scoop...just not entirely sure what kind2 piece, one piece, offset what about not a scoop but i dont know what they are called, like vents or something like that cut into the side....i guess inverted scoops...vents something like that (saw it in need for speed underground 2 so, lol)what are th options as far as customization and still keep it sub 500$?

[damronjr]

Quote, originally posted by tecton »i might be interested in thisim curious to see some ideas other members have for the designid definately want a scoop...just not entirely sure what kind2 piece, one piece, offset what about not a scoop but i dont know what they are called, like vents or something like that cut into the side....i guess inverted scoops...vents something like that (saw it in need for speed underground 2 so, lol)what are th options as far as customization and still keep it sub 500$?I think in order for them to do it, they all have to be the same design. That way they build 1 mold and all the hoods for the GB off of that mold.

[tecton]

i understand thatthats why im curious to see others design ideas

[Merzbow]

I would be interested but doubt I could buy one any time soon.

[Smokin' Rubber]

I'd be interested, but first what is an M style hood? As for the invader style its ok, except the part in front of the depressions comes up too much on most of them and make part of the hood look too blunt. I would rather go with something like an Evo style hood (lancer evo style).Definitely got enough money to pay for it right now too

[damronjr]

Quote, originally posted by Smokin’ Rubber »I'd be interested, but first what is an M style hood? As for the invader style its ok, except the part in front of the depressions comes up too much on most of them and make part of the hood look too blunt. I would rather go with something like an Evo style hood (lancer evo style).Definitely got enough money to pay for it right now too I would need AT LEAST a month. The M-style is similar to the Invader except it doesn't rise as far like you don't like and it has a splitter piece in the middle of the vent in the shape of a W essentially, or upside down M.

[havock]

Ok this is a feeler for the gb... so what i would like to see is everyone deciding on the style hood.. get a few different ideas someone post up some pics everyone agree on one design. if you want 2 different designs then we would need atleast 10 people for each design and we could do them both.The M Style hood as explained by Damronjr is an inverted style scoop the lip is no where near as big as the invader and it has a little splitter in the middle of the scoop. Now if you dont want the M shape then thats fine too we can eliminate the splitter and just go with a line opening.. it will have mesh in it as well and will be functional.. But that is what i want everyone on here to decide is what type of hood you want.Also it will be a $50 deposit after we get 10 people and the groub buy started figuring about a week to 2 weeks to get this going and then have 10 people sign up and put $50 down and a few week production time before the first hood rolls out. So you have some time to save up the money to purchase the product. For everyone else after the GB is done the hood will still be available for purchase at a higher price. Such as the $465 hood would then cost around $540 or so plus shipping. But thats neither here nor there until we make the hood for you.Any other information i can get you please feel free to ask me and I will keep you informed. So lets get some people in here who want this hood and get some designs ready to agree on. We want to see you out at the Shows or just cruzin around Happy with your Style..

[havock]

Oh yah and Psychobroker. The blue is close to the color of your car. It matches nicely with my Indigo Ink Matrix which is a similar color..

[damronjr]

Quote, originally posted by havock »Ok this is a feeler for the gb... so what i would like to see is everyone deciding on the style hood.. get a few different ideas someone post up some pics everyone agree on one design. if you want 2 different designs then we would need atleast 10 people for each design and we could do them both.The M Style hood as explained by Damronjr is an inverted style scoop the lip is no where near as big as the invader and it has a little splitter in the middle of the scoop. Now if you dont want the M shape then thats fine too we can eliminate the splitter and just go with a line opening.. it will have mesh in it as well and will be functional.. But that is what i want everyone on here to decide is what type of hood you want.Also it will be a $50 deposit after we get 10 people and the groub buy started figuring about a week to 2 weeks to get this going and then have 10 people sign up and put $50 down and a few week production time before the first hood rolls out. So you have some time to save up the money to purchase the product. For everyone else after the GB is done the hood will still be available for purchase at a higher price. Such as the $465 hood would then cost around $540 or so plus shipping. But thats neither here nor there until we make the hood for you.Any other information i can get you please feel free to ask me and I will keep you informed. So lets get some people in here who want this hood and get some designs ready to agree on. We want to see you out at the Shows or just cruzin around Happy with your Style.. You can put me down for an M style hood. I'll have the $$ by the time it's ready and can do $50 anytime. Anybody have any other ideas they want to throw out there as far as styling? Let's try to get this GB so at least there will be 1 option out there for other Vibe owners!

[Smokin' Rubber]

Yeah M style would be cool definitely up for the $50 down, but lets see if there are any other ideas for hoods. I'll try to get pics of different hoods styles to post

[damronjr]

Quote, originally posted by Smokin’ Rubber »I'll try to get pics of different hoods styles to postI'll keep an eye out for those pics. I like the M-style, but I'm up for ideas.

[damronjr]

Here's a link to a bunch of CF hood pics that I found here and there.http://photobucket.com/albums/...oods/

[Psychobroker]

Here's the M-style hood:You can put me down, but I still don't know if I want blue (kevlar?) or regular CF

[Smokin' Rubber]

I think thats more invader style (but lower profile) since it doesn't have a seperation (or not one thats visible) between both sides of the scoop. Definitely a nice looking tC tho Anyone interested in some vents on the sides of the hood?

[Psychobroker]

Yep, it's similar to the Invader style w/o the ridge in the middle and a slightly lower front ridge. I like this one just fine as-is. Side vents would be nice, but for me, they'd be a bit much due to the fender vents on the Psychovibe bodykit. Just my $.02

[Ponyota]

I already have a CF hood in the OEM style. Just waiting for some warmer weather to put it on. I think I'll wait to see how the new ones look once they come out. Then I'll make my decision.

[Smokin' Rubber]

Quote, originally posted by Psychobroker »Side vents would be nice, but for me, they'd be a bit much due to the fender vents on the Psychovibe bodykit. Just my $.02 Nothin wrong with lots of engine ventilation hehe

[Psychobroker]

Quote, originally posted by Smokin’ Rubber »Nothin wrong with lots of engine ventilation hehetoo true

[Smokin' Rubber]

What does anyone else think of side vents? And also how many people want the a hood and can make a $50 down payment (since we need 10)

[damronjr]

Quote, originally posted by Smokin’ Rubber »What does anyone else think of side vents? And also how many people want the a hood and can make a $50 down payment (since we need 10)1

[satur9]

if you can make me a hood like the vibe gtr with the little scoop. id pay the whole amount up front

[rcasciola]

which hood are we talking about...as in looks...

[Psychobroker]

Quote, originally posted by rcasciola »which hood are we talking about...as in looks...This is what satur9 was talking about:While I DO like this hood, I'm all about symetry...so my choice is still the m-style hood, preferably without vents (besides the main one, of course ), unless someone can sketch an idea of what they'd look like...

[damronjr]

Quote, originally posted by Psychobroker »While I DO like this hood, I'm all about symetry...so my choice is still the m-style hood, preferably without vents, unless someone can sketch an idea of what they'd look like...I'm with you, Christian, so that's 2 for the M-style. Anyone else or anyone with a better idea? Let's get this over with so we can get started.

[Spats]

I am looking into hoods as well i would like to have the hood scoops funtional and not just for show other wise ill get a hood from RK sport

[Smokin' Rubber]

I'm all for the M too (but I still want my vents D*MNIT! ) lolGonna go see which vents Christian is talking about on the Psycho body kit now heheEDIT: You talking about these Christian?These are different than the kind of vents I envisioned on the hood so I don't think it would look too similar (or like swiss cheese if you like that example better). I'll try to find a picture of the kind of vents that I'm talking about.Ok found some pics, I was thinking more like the vents on the hood (or side of the SLR McLaren but I would only want it to be like the part that is in the middle between the two parts that separate the vents, so like a rectangular sent of vents (similar to the ones in the picture) on about the part of the hood that the vents on the Mercedes' hood are and just remember the ones I'm talking about wouldn't have the dividers and wouldn't look a whole lot like the ones on the side of the fenders for the body kit you are gettingOn a side note, I think that if we get enough interest for the hoods, however unlikely that is we should try to have JSP try to make a body kit similar to the one on the GTR *drools* what a sweet prospect

[damronjr]

Quote, originally posted by Smokin’ Rubber »I'm all for the M too (but I still want my vents D*MNIT! ) lolGonna go see which vents Christian is talking about on the Psycho body kit now heheEDIT: You talking about these Christian?These are different than the kind of vents I envisioned on the hood so I don't think it would look too similar (or like swiss cheese if you like that example better). I'll try to find a picture of the kind of vents that I'm talking about.Ok found some pics, I was thinking more like the vents on the hood (or side of the SLR McLaren but I would only want it to be like the part that is in the middle between the two parts that separate the vents, so like a rectangular sent of vents (similar to the ones in the picture) on about the part of the hood that the vents on the Mercedes' hood are and just remember the ones I'm talking about wouldn't have the dividers and wouldn't look a whole lot like the ones on the side of the fenders for the body kit you are getting.On a side note, I think that if we get enough interest for the hoods, however unlikely that is we should try to have JSP try to make a body kit similar to the one on the GTR *drools* what a sweet prospectOK, yes, those are the fenders we are getting from the body kit. As for vents, I don't mind, but I think if we (those of us who ordered the body kit and custom fenders) are going to get vents, then, like the SLR, they should match. However, that may be overkill as the M-style hood already closely matches those vents on the fenders. As for asking them to build a body-kit, that would be another GB request from them and some of us have already bought Psychovibe's body kit. Anybody else interested in this or is it going to be another lost cause?

[Smokin' Rubber]

Quote, originally posted by damronjr »...they should match. However, that may be overkill as the M-style hood already closely matches those vents on the fenders. As for asking them to build a body-kit, that would be another GB request from them and some of us have already bought Psychovibe's body kit. Anybody else interested in this or is it going to be another lost cause?True, vents should probably match. And at this rate as sad as it is I think the hood ma be a lost cause like you said. As of now the only people that said they were interested were:YouChristianMeMerzbow (who doesn't know if he can afford it)tectonWhich is only 5 out of the neccesary 10

[Psychobroker]

Yep, I'm more concerned with more vents cluttering up my front end, making it look like swiss cheese...plus, extra venting might raise the price. I dunno, I guess I'd be down if they matched, but would have to be super subtle for me.

[damronjr]

Quote, originally posted by Psychobroker »Yep, I'm more concerned with more vents cluttering up my front end, making it look like swiss cheese...plus, extra venting might raise the price. I dunno, I guess I'd be down if they matched, but would have to be super subtle for me.Doesn't look like we are going to get much of a response on here. All these chances to get something new and all everyone does is talk, but when it comes down to a chance like this where we can get something custom made (seeing as how nothing is going to get made otherwise , probably because of lack of market as shown here, can't even get 10 people on a site of hundreds of Vibe owners across the US and Canada) and no one will go through with it. Kind of sucks. We're never going to get much done this way. Hope someone (i.e Chris) starts making more for these or it doesn't look like anyone else will

[havock]

I think if you can get 5 then we can get atleast 3 or 4 more and try to get this produced anyways... I understand the frustration with trying to get parts for our cars.. the matrix is the same way and every opportunity we have had people back out or dont go for it and then no one makes parts and it costs us $$$$$ to get what we want then. I feel confident that we can pull atleast 3 or 4 more people here and get this group buy going

[pissedoffgokart]

Any photochopers out there? I will pony up for the M style scoop but I want to see about what it looks like on the Vibe!! I know I like the way it looks on the Matrix but the Vibe's front end is more aggressive looking and I am not sure if the inverted scoop would be too much!!Oh, and would it mount using the stock hardware or would it have to be "pinned"?

[damronjr]

Quote, originally posted by havock »I think if you can get 5 then we can get atleast 3 or 4 more and try to get this produced anyways... I understand the frustration with trying to get parts for our cars.. the matrix is the same way and every opportunity we have had people back out or dont go for it and then no one makes parts and it costs us $$$$$ to get what we want then. I feel confident that we can pull atleast 3 or 4 more people here and get this group buy goingFor those who are sure say it now. I am 1.

[Psychobroker]

And I am 2

[rcasciola]

any idea about the look were goign for..and price range?!?

[havock]

Well the price is going to be about $465 plus shipping for the scooped hood

[rcasciola]

so is that the one on the vibe gtr?

[Smokin' Rubber]

Quote, originally posted by rcasciola »so is that the one on the vibe gtr?No, think more Lotus Elise hood styleAnd I'm 3

[damronjr]

Quote, originally posted by Smokin’ Rubber »No, think more Lotus Elise hood styleAnd I'm 3Speaking of, saw one today on the road. SWEEEET! Any other sure takers?

[rcasciola]

maybe if i saw a pic

[damronjr]

Quote, originally posted by rcasciola »maybe if i saw a picThis is pretty much what we are describing here.As you can see there is a slight variation in the 2 designs, but you get the idea.