Adding an Auxilary input

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Smokin' Rubber
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Adding an Auxilary input

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Ok I pulled out the CD changer/radio thing and checked the connections in the back. There are 3 inputs the big boxy power input another pin setup in put which has nothing connected to it and what I am assuming to the the 1/8" audio output jack which connects to the amp/speakers. Which leaves that mysterious hole with all the pins I guess.... So how do you add that AUX channel? And I'm pretty sure there is an AUX input just because if you look at the bottom part of the radio there is a button that says CD/AUX.
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Re: Adding an Auxilary input (Smokin' Rubber)

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There is NO auxiliary input on any of the radios, despite the fact the button says AUX.The only system an auxiliary input can successfully be added to is the nav system.It seems the stock radios don't have the firmware to support outside signals.We've pretty much beaten the issue to death already several times over. http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id ... read?id=24
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Re: Adding an Auxilary input (ragingfish)

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Hehe my bad guess I should have checked the search first. I have to say thats pretty funny though that it says AUX on the deck tho hehe Ooo hey I have an idea.... although you should definitely read over this to make sure it woouldn't be incredibly stupid and naive (I'm still learning even tho I know mostly how to set up electrical systems [more specifically for creating coils, shorts, and sparks for various applications])Ok here is the possible idea:In back of the deck there is a plug that send out the signal to an amp or directly to the speakers if the amp is built in, right? So what if you bought a really tiny mixer (like one from guitar center or any other music/electronics store that might carry them) and found a place for it somewhere in a hollow space beind the console/dash area. Then, instead of having the wires from the deck connect directly to the speakers you could have it go into the mixer as one of the inputs and run the sound from the auxilary device into another channel input on the mixer. Then you could output the two sources so that they were on one channel going to the speakers. The problem is that you would need a "remote" station where you could adjust the volume for the two channels so you could mute one while the other was on.I know that seems a bit confusing but do you think it would work?
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Re: Adding an Auxilary input (Smokin' Rubber)

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Sounds like a hell of a lot more money, time, and effort than it's worth.Would it work, though? I honestly don't know. I'd venture to say no. But I can't say that with complete confidence.
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Re: Adding an Auxilary input (ragingfish)

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Lol well I got a hell of alot of time and I like wasting it doing stuff like that as for the effort it would be just the pride of saying I did it when people thought it couldn't be done. As for the costly in terms of money I'm pretty sure you can get a 2 or 3 channel mixer for under $70 which isn't too hard then you just get wire and connectors at radio shack or hardware stores people used to think that you couldn't reroute the power from the outlet on the console too but I did that Just so I can think over all teh possible problems why did you venture to say no? Is there something in particular that you think would be hard if not impossible to get around or set up?
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Re: Adding an Auxilary input (Smokin' Rubber)

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Quote, originally posted by Smokin' Rubber »people used to think that you couldn't reroute the power from the outlet on the console too but I did that No one ever doubted it could be done. We all realize anything can be accomplished with the right amount of time and money.We just said we weren't sure WHY you were doing it, wasn't logical to us.Quote »Just so I can think over all teh possible problems why did you venture to say no? Is there something in particular that you think would be hard if not impossible to get around or set up?Not knowing the intricacies of the radio and associated wiring, I'm not sure it's as simple as plugging in a tuner.Also, remember, the more splicing and connections you make, the more room for problems.You could get a decent aftermarket head unit for a little more than 100 bucks...would seem to be a better alternative IMHO.
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Re: Adding an Auxilary input (ragingfish)

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Quote, originally posted by ragingfish »No one ever doubted it could be done. We all realize anything can be accomplished with the right amount of time and money.We just said we weren't sure WHY you were doing it, wasn't logical to us.Not knowing the intricacies of the radio and associated wiring, I'm not sure it's as simple as plugging in a tuner.Also, remember, the more splicing and connections you make, the more room for problems.You could get a decent aftermarket head unit for a little more than 100 bucks...would seem to be a better alternative IMHO.Well see last time I asked if you could do that quite a few people said no which is what I mean. As for the why you'll see the end result in a week or two I completely agree about the not knowing the radio's wiring as well as the cars in its entirety and yes splicing does leave room for more problems altho I think that in total (taking into account everything possible) it would be about 3 to 6 splices: one for a new connecter for the outbound from the radio unit, one for the connecter to the output port going to teh speakers, and one for whatever split the sound to all the speakers (might need 3 additional if they needed to connect to all teh speakers individually).And you're right it does seem incredibly pointless to do what I am talking about lol it would be so much easier to get a new deck with an actual AUX port. I'm sorry if I've been kind of hard headed/unagreeable, sometimes I just get really into some projects or ideas especially if they seem like a challenge to do right.
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Actually...I think you'd have a harder time finding a mixer that could actually mix speaker-level signals. Even those going from a headunit to the M&T amp. Mixers are generally designed only for line-level sources.And yeah, it'd be easier to get a $100 Aiwa stereo that has the aux-in right on the front..
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You could put in a switch to switch the audio input to the amp between the HU and the LCD or xbox., but you'd have to get the levels right, and might be more susceptible to engine noise If I wanted to wire in an audio input to the stock HU, I'd probably go with an FM modulator that connects in line with the HU antenna line. That way you could still use the HU controls for volume.I replaced my sotck 1 CD HU with a CD/tape out of a Matrix, still looks stock, but when I do need an AUX in I can use a tape adapter, sounds good enough for me. If audio quality is a prime concern, then you'd probably be planning on replacing the stock HU, M&T amp, and speakers anyway. You'd then be able to find a new HU without useless AUX buttons on the front. Maybe even one that with surround sound
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