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Evanshall · Post by **Evanshall** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 11:58 am

i was thinking, maybe, just maybe a small boost like 25hp would be ok for a 2zz, as i dont need jimungous numbers, and i dont really need them all the time, so what about a small shot NOS, like this kit..http://hopupracing.com/nieximstonee.htmlit would be way cheaper then a Turbo, but i could deffenetly get that all nessasary small boost of 25hp, i know it says 50 and 75hp settings as well, but i do like having a running car, heres a few qeustions though...how hard is nitrous on the engine? is running one shot at 50hp setting for 15 seconds equivilent to how much time behind a lower boost turbo purducing say the same 50hp on a 2zz, and basic problematic stuff like that, the reason i like Nitrous is the price, but primaroly because its not constantly wearing on the engine, but if the one time use at 50hp the same amount of damadge as say 200miles on a turbo with 50hp boost, then bleh to this ideaand would this "NX Power Booster fuel additive" help if i know im gonna run Nitrous in general, even if im not gonna go anywere nere the recommend stetting limits(basically would it help if i was just doing small 25 boost, a few times, at 1/4 mile runs)just wondering, and yes, i know id probably need a new clutch

satur9 · Post by **satur9** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 5:33 am

a fifty shot is perfectly fine on a 2zz. a properly set up system should cause no more damage than any other power adders. and most cars can handles that small of a power increase all day.ive had no problem on my 1zz with nitrous(cept clutch).i wouldnt worry about that power booster if you have 93 0r 94 gas.i tried a bottle and didnt notice anything

Evanshall · Post by **Evanshall** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 5:46 am

awesome, its really looking better the more i hear about it, as well, nitrous is just cool as hell, and yes we have many stations serving 93 octane, im in the process of finding 94, but i live a little bit outside of motor city(ok ok a half hour), it shouldnt be impossible to find though, alright ill keep this in the back of my mind for when i finally do get all the parts in i read i shouldnt run the engine "Lean" now would CAIs, and Exhaust cause the engine to run more lean, or about the same?

wicked1981 · Post by **wicked1981** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:46 pm

Quote, originally posted by Evanshall Â» i read i shouldnt run the engine "Lean" now would CAIs, and Exhaust cause the engine to run more lean, or about the same?You should be fine.

Evanshall · Post by **Evanshall** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:10 pm

less then a unichip and more effective, grrr sounds good, if i can get a hold of a good paying job you may see me trying to order a kit in the future

nismo · Post by **nismo** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:24 pm

IMHO, nitrious is jus cheating. I think. If you can't afford the boost all the time. I think that a car is cheating using nitrous. JMHO though. So, yeah.Inder Singh

Evanshall · Post by **Evanshall** » Sat Jul 24, 2004 12:30 am

ive honestly never heard that opinion before, but thats cool, personally i dont want boost all the time, i want the engine running in a few years, especially since i dont think my dad would know what to do with a turbo, i can imagine it now "o whats this button do? 6PSI, lets try 12!" KABOOM

wicked1981 · Post by **wicked1981** » Sat Jul 24, 2004 12:36 am

Quote, originally posted by Evanshall Â»ive honestly never heard that opinion before, but thats cool, personally i dont want boost all the time, i want the engine running in a few years, especially since i dont think my dad would know what to do with a turbo, i can imagine it now "o whats this button do? 6PSI, lets try 12!" KABOOMI also have thought about Nitrous but a turbo would be better. Hmm turbo+Nitrous......

Jahntassa · Post by **Jahntassa** » Sat Jul 24, 2004 1:40 am

What nitrous setup would work best, is my question. I've decided I might investigate it as well, but can I get away with Dry? Or Wet? Or DI? Knowing that DI is the best because of the way it works..but..

wicked1981 · Post by **wicked1981** » Sat Jul 24, 2004 2:13 am

Quote, originally posted by Jahntassa Â»What nitrous setup would work best, is my question. I've decided I might investigate it as well, but can I get away with Dry? Or Wet? Or DI? Knowing that DI is the best because of the way it works..but..Q. What are the differences between a dry nozzle and a wet nozzle? A. The "dry" system uses the factory fuel injection to enrich the nitrous introduced into the engine. The flaw with this technology is that no matter how much nitrous arrives at a certain intake port it always gets the same preset amount of fuel, or if a fuel injector becomes clogged engine damage will result. The "Wet" technology introduces a precise amount of fuel and nitrous through a high tech mixing nozzle that atomizes the fuel to microscopic proportions. This allows every cylinder to receive a precise, homogenous mixture of fuel and nitrous, thus insuring a safe, powerful increase.

Evanshall · Post by **Evanshall** » Sat Jul 24, 2004 7:05 am

dry is fine with me, i dont need huge numbers, just bigger more exciting ones then i have now and 50hp boost is actually a hell of alot IMO(well it does say 75 , but i wont tickly that idea for now), soo im good for now, especially since this will still be a daily driver through and through

wicked1981 · Post by **wicked1981** » Sat Jul 24, 2004 7:32 am

Quote, originally posted by Evanshall Â»dry is fine with me, i dont need huge numbers, just bigger more exciting ones then i have now and 50hp boost is actually a hell of alot IMO(well it does say 75 , but i wont tickly that idea for now), soo im good for now, especially since this will still be a daily driver through and throughYeah I saw that 75 shot also but I think I would stick with a 50.

satur9 · Post by **satur9** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 4:17 am

dry kits dont work on our returnless fuel system.a zex or nitrous express wet kit should work fine.

Smokin' Rubber · Post by **Smokin' Rubber** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 5:46 am

awww what, not going with direct injection? That would be pretty bad man and especially with the 70 mm piping, would help out so much

Evanshall · Post by **Evanshall** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 6:34 am

ok ok, is this they kit i should get then??http://hopupracing.com/nieximstonee.html i like the fact it has different settings, would this be what i want?or do i want this..http://hopupracing.com/niex4chiefis.html

Smokin' Rubber · Post by **Smokin' Rubber** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 6:40 am

yeah that would be good for you probably not hardcore and not way too over the top for a starter mod

Evanshall · Post by **Evanshall** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 6:43 am

only thing that gets me about the top kit is that it says "wide open throttle switch" does that mean it comes on automatically at full throttle, or just a odd name?!? id rather myself be able to choose when it came on, and still be able to do full throttle without always having to get NO2 injection ?!? or am i confused

wicked1981 · Post by **wicked1981** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 6:44 am

Quote, originally posted by Evanshall Â»ok ok, is this they kit i should get then??http://hopupracing.com/nieximstonee.html i like the fact it has different settings, would this be what i want?or do i want this..http://hopupracing.com/niex4chiefis.html$375 for the second kit!! Wow not bad at all. $375 for 50 or 75 horsepower..

Evanshall · Post by **Evanshall** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 6:53 am

im just mainly worried about ohw you arm the nitrous, the only reason i am afraid of the first kit is because i dont want auto nitrous at full throttle, although i might be reading it wrong but isnt that what "Wide open throttle switch" means or whatever

wicked1981 · Post by **wicked1981** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 6:57 am

Quote, originally posted by Evanshall Â»im just mainly worried about ohw you arm the nitrous, the only reason i am afraid of the first kit is because i dont want auto nitrous at full throttle, although i might be reading it wrong but isnt that what "Wide open throttle switch" means or whateverYes but you can also purchase a switch to "arm" it. Here is what they say Q. How can a nitrous system be activated (a "happy button," automatically, or what)? A. All NX systems come standard with wide-open throttle switches, however we offer an electronic TPS switch as well as a push button.If you have any more questions read this page it might answer any other question you might have. http://www.nitrousexpress.com/Pages/faq.htm

Smokin' Rubber · Post by **Smokin' Rubber** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 11:18 am

Yeah if you only want it for racing you might want to just get the switch or button depending on how you want to raceIf you want the NOS off the line then you should prolly get the switch just because it is better for the gear shifts, but if you want to use NOS only when you hit a gear (3 and 4th) where you want extra punch

satur9 · Post by **satur9** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 6:01 am

i would go with the first kit although im unsure as to weather it comes with a bottle the drop down menu list diferent bottles...why? 600 is around the going price for a full kit.the kit comes with a wide open throttle switch AND a master arming switch. once you arm the system then everytime you hit wot it will spray. most kits use the wot switch becuase if you spray at half throttle youve only got half air and but full nitrous.the shots are tested and rated at wot.if you want a button like on the steering wheel to use with the wot switch and arming switch any cheap autozone or wherever button wired in series with the wot and arming switch will do.i wouldnt reccomend using the pushbutton without the wot.

rodzombie · Post by **rodzombie** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 12:02 pm

Quote, originally posted by satur9 Â»i would go with the first kit although im unsure as to weather it comes with a bottle the drop down menu list diferent bottles...why? 600 is around the going price for a full kit.the kit comes with a wide open throttle switch AND a master arming switch. once you arm the system then everytime you hit wot it will spray. most kits use the wot switch becuase if you spray at half throttle youve only got half air and but full nitrous.the shots are tested and rated at wot.if you want a button like on the steering wheel to use with the wot switch and arming switch any cheap autozone or wherever button wired in series with the wot and arming switch will do.i wouldnt reccomend using the pushbutton without the wot. I've read that running nitrous at anything other than WOT can result in nitrouse pooling in the intake and can cause a manifold explosion. I was always told that the WOT switches are there for your engines saftey more than anything. I'm purchasing a Zex wet system for my base Vibe. There system is by far the nicest on the market IMO. It's not the cheapest but I feel it's safer than any of the other kits on the market. Just my $.02.

FusionVGT · Post by **FusionVGT** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 10:57 pm

Without getting into details, it's very important that nitrous oxide be activated at WOT.As has already been said, a wet kit is a necessity on a Vibe due to the returnless fuel system.The safest/easiest activation scheme is a primary arming switch with a WOT switch. The WOT can be mechanical or electronic. A mechanical switch would be mounted either on the throttle body linkage or accelerator pedal. The electronic switch is tapped to the TPS and looks for max voltage.I have not used ZEX's kit before, so if I can get them to just sell me the solenoid box by itself I'll install one and do a write-up.

wicked1981 · Post by **wicked1981** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 12:59 am

I know it needs to be activated when wot is reached but I would want an arming switch just because I would not want to use the nitrous to pass a car on the street that is going a little slow. They offer an arming swithes with the kits so I think i would include that in the kit.

FusionVGT · Post by **FusionVGT** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 2:13 am

Quote, originally posted by wicked1981 Â» I know it needs to be activated when wot is reached but I would want an arming switch just because I would not want to use the nitrous to pass a car on the street that is going a little slow. They offer an arming swithes with the kits so I think i would include that in the kit.No doubt on the arming switch. Every kit comes with one. NOS even makes one that needs a key. May sound overkill, but it's nice when someone else is driving the car and you want to KNOW they aren't spraying.

Jahntassa · Post by **Jahntassa** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 3:47 am

Key switch is definitely a cool idea. I'm glad you mentioned that..if I can ever afford NOS, i'll do the master arm that way..

Jac Daniels · Post by **Jac Daniels** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 6:02 pm

a dry kit will not work on the VVTL-i or the VVT-i... the engines dont have a fuel regulator or a fuel out hose... the fuel all gos to the engine... take a look at ur fuel rail... where is the fuel out?? I got a ZEX 55 shot nos kit on my 2k5 corolla XRS and its bangin.

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