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Smokin' Rubber · Post by **Smokin' Rubber** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 6:57 am

Hey guys think I'm going to buy some 19's within this next week to replace my current rimsAnd I just realized with my current rims the speedometer actually reads 3% fast or so and getting the 35/19's will actually make it back to the orginal stock reading I had with the 17's. How do you think these would look on the Vibe (Shadow GT)http://www.custom-wheels-car-r...ortby=

goodvibe · Post by **goodvibe** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 7:13 am

Works for me. I prefer a slightly chunkier 5 spoke on a Vibe but not by that much.

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 7:48 am

Not bad.Simple. Stylish. Not a fan of that triangular thing at the end of the spoke...or the recess in the spoke, but overall, not a bad wheel!!!

MadBill · Post by **MadBill** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:33 am

19s don't leave much sidewall height to protect the rims from debris and potholes. There was a member from NJ who had them and said they were fine, no trouble at all. About a month later they were for sale: "two straight, two bent"

shibaman · Post by **shibaman** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 9:35 am

They look like my Centerline RPMs. How much do they weigh? If you can try to keep the weight down.

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Smokin' Rubber · Post by **Smokin' Rubber** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 10:41 am

Quote, originally posted by shibaman Â»They look like my Centerline RPMs. How much do they weigh? If you can try to keep the weight down. I think they weigh somewhere between 23 and 25 lbs so not too heavyQuote, originally posted by MadBill Â»19s don't leave much sidewall height to protect the rims from debris and potholes. There was a member from NJ who had them and said they were fine, no trouble at all. About a month later they were for sale: "two straight, two bent" Very true my first OEM set of 17" rims on the right side got the crap scraped out of them from having to parallel park at the university so much, luckly I got new ones with I broke my axel and suspension (I know for a 1.5 year old car it has taken alot of abuse ) and I've been better about scraping. As for the 19's you are right, but you know if 17's get scratched even 18's will too. I think the trick my be getting really wide tires so they kind of bludge a bit off the rim (as in the flat of the tire that touched the road is wider than the rim so the inside part of the tire is bent inwards to fit on the rim and yes that is safe as long as you don't get tires that really weren't meant to fit on that rim size. So if I have that buldge buffer it might be alright. I wonder how wide the tires would have to be on a 7.5" wide rim to get that.Maybe I should go with 245's

redlava · Post by **redlava** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 11:15 am

Those look pretty sweet. Nice choice. Hopefully that big of a size won't interfer with anything. I sure wouldn't want to spend that much on something that damages my car.

MadBill · Post by **MadBill** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 11:31 am

What you say is true about the section width of the tire, smokin, in fact some tires have a built-in ridge just to protect the rim from curbs, but I'm speaking of the distance from the tread to the rim, as in a 205/55 has a sidewall height of 205 mm x .55 = 112.5 mm or 4.44", so with a 16" rim, the tire diameter is ~16 + 4.44 + 4.44 = 24.9". A 19" tire having the same outside diameter would have a less than 3" high sidewall and thus it would be much easier to bend a rim on a sharp-edged pothole.

Smokin' Rubber · Post by **Smokin' Rubber** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 11:39 am

Oh you mean the amount of air cushioning hehe thought you were talking about scraping the rimsYeah I know with less sidewall and more pressure the actual tires absorb less of the impact and the rims takes more than a higher ratio tire (hence the harsher ride as well) I don't think it will be a big problem though just because there are not many pot holes around where I drive (WA state just spent millions and re-paved most of the roads). But, if I ever find myself in that situation you're probably right, I will be sorry. For now though I think I'll get the rims anyway, a friend of mine just opened a tire/rim shop and said he'd give them rims to me for a discount but I have to pay full price for tires so its gonna end up around $900 combined which is a good deal for 19's plus performance tires

goodvibe · Post by **goodvibe** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 9:04 pm

I also wouldn't go with a tire that is wide for the rim. The sidewall actually gets softer and will make the rims more prone to impact damage. Get something that will fit the rim properly and run highish pressures. Tires with rim protectors work fine without being oversize. I'm with Madbill and think 19s are strtching it a bit.

savedbyzero · Post by **savedbyzero** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 7:34 am

Those things have to way more than 25 lbs. And if they do weigh that much at that price, it's gonna be bend city for the 19's!

Smokin' Rubber · Post by **Smokin' Rubber** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 10:10 am

Quote, originally posted by savedbyzero Â»Those things have to way more than 25 lbs. And if they do weigh that much at that price, it's gonna be bend city for the 19's!My current rims are 18's and only weigh 21lbs a piece so why is 25 so unlikely?After thinking about the whole 19's getting bent I realized that my 18's have just as little padding (since they are also 35 ratio) and have yet to get bent or screwed up in quite a few monthes of driving. And now the question is why would I even bother going from 18's to 19's when the tires will be the same ratio and width.... good question lol.....

goodvibe · Post by **goodvibe** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 11:38 am

Actually to keep your current diameter with 19s, the tie would have to be a 235/30 or 225/35 for closer to stock diameter. Anyway you look at it, you will lose some sidewall. Where did you get your tires. I can't find your size GS-D3 listed anywhere.

Smokin' Rubber · Post by **Smokin' Rubber** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:31 pm

Doh! I just went into the garage and double checked the tires, they are 235/40's so I guess the sidewall would be getting shorter by more than I thought. I got ripped off lol... I orginially bought the tires thinking they were 35 ratio but thats only for 245 wide

MadBill · Post by **MadBill** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:40 pm

Think this may have been published before, but here's a good tire size calculator/comparator:http://ejelta.com/tiresize/

Smokin' Rubber · Post by **Smokin' Rubber** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 7:31 am

Decided against 19's at least for now... lol I had a dream last night that I was on ly 3rd set of 4 and I just kept destroying themNot a pretty image... espcially the empty wallet lol

kortik · Post by **kortik** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 3:58 pm

I am also looking for 19" this one but all of you recommend 18" ah?I know that 235/35/19 match the stock http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

Smokin' Rubber · Post by **Smokin' Rubber** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 4:29 pm

Nice I started thinking about 19's again as well as to not stray from the stock sizing when I get 35 ratios. I think that they'll do fine as long as you don't live or drive in an area with alot of pot hole

kortik · Post by **kortik** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 4:37 pm

I found that tire here look at the bottom of that pagehttp://www.wheelmax.com/Wheels/exel/exel.htmbut on that site there are only 18 and 17 no 19but I want Racing Hart Z5000 instead of exel cause exel is the duplicate of Racing Harts. And Racing Harts manufactured in Japan so better quility and they have 19s.did you get the 19th yet. Hey where is that shop in Seattle that you were talking about. LEt me know if it still exist b/c I also live in Seattle area.Thanks

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