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slbpsi63
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Subwoofer boxes

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Has anyone installed any subwoofer boxes in their Vibe? shadow Realm and I were wondering if any manufactures had a pre made box that won't kill your cargo space. Any suggestions? If possible please post pics if you have it installed.
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I bought a 12w0 form JL audio. The sub box is about 1.25 cu. ft.. It takes some place but less then my old 2x10" Sony X-Plod. If you want something smaller, go for a 10" (JL build 10" who take 0.5-1 cu. ft.) or a 8" (0.3- 0.6 cu. ft.). For sure 8" will kick less then a 10 or a 12" but if you don't want too much bass, a clear and clear sound and don't disturb your neightbours, 8 or 10" will do the job. Unfortunally, there's no custom boxes for the Vibe yet. f you have abilities, you an built it yourself.
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Post by neptunevibeawd »

I saw on one of the vibe/matrix websites where someone used some of the area where the tire goes to put a subwoofer in. The advantage is they did not lose any space, I don't remember if they were able to keep the spare tire in there though? What I do remember is that it was a custom made fiberglass enclosure....
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Found this link at Matrixvibe.net : http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/to ... %26.view=t
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Good idea to put the sub in the spare tire space but not very usefull when you get a flat.....
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I like the tire well install!!! Thanks for the link Yoda.
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I was thinking of using that extra space in a useful way. Great Idea in my eyes.
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quote:Good idea to put the sub in the spare tire space but not very usefull when you get a flat.....I didn't read the actual post from the member of the site that did this, but if done right and researched, you should be able to still keep the spare tire under the cover. The hole in the cover by default should be big enough to put a sub there without having to remove the tire. I could be wrong. All-in-all, I think that looks sweet!
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quote:I didn't read the actual post from the member of the site that did this, but if done right and researched, you should be able to still keep the spare tire under the cover. The hole in the cover by default should be big enough to put a sub there without having to remove the tire. I could be wrong. I took a look at the MTX web site. If I look wrigh, it s a 10" sub. Accirding to MTX spec, it takes at between 0.5 and 1.0 cu. ft for the box. If it is a 12", it takes at least 1.0 cu. ft.I'm very scpetical about this installation. To get the good cu. ft. volume, I think we have to remove the spare tire (even more if it is a 12"). If he installed it without removing the spare, I doubt it sound well. I know, I can't judge without earing it, but from what I have, I can doubt about the sound quality.quote:All-in-all, I think that looks sweet!I completly agree, it looks nice, but if it doesn't give a good sound, why wast your time and scrap the floor panel.
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Haven't installed it yet (hopefully on the weekend) but I recently picked up a active Bazooka tube (8"). It doesn't create the insanely low frequencies of big honking 12" but it doesn't eat up all your cargo space either. I've used Bazooka's in my other vehicles and all sound greeat to me - nice response, complements well. I think Toyota sells a rebadged Bazooka tube from their end as well... Good luck in whatever you do!
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quote:Haven't installed it yet (hopefully on the weekend) but I recently picked up a active Bazooka tube (8"). It doesn't create the insanely low frequencies of big honking 12" but it doesn't eat up all your cargo space either. I've used Bazooka's in my other vehicles and all sound greeat to me - nice response, complements well. I think Toyota sells a rebadged Bazooka tube from their end as well... Good luck in whatever you do! Most of the "factory" subwoofer offered as an option are 8". It sound clean but does not give the 12" kick. All depends of the result you want. A good 8" with a good amp will sound better the some crappy 10 or 12" with a poor amp. All is a quality question.
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I just built a fiberglass tub intothe spare compartment. Granted the spare doesn't fit anymore but I carry some fix-a-flat just in case. Besides, who wants to have 18's and rool on a doh-nut? This is the cover for the top of the box, I couldn't countersync it because the subs were too deep, but most subs should be able to be flush mounted. Ran outta film before I could take pics of the actual top of the box. Overall, because of the sub depth, I lost 3/4 of an inch off the floor. Not too bad a sacrifice for insane bass!!
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Very sweat installation . What do you have to drive those 2 12"?
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I picked up a Power Amper 2x300 dual monoblock tube amp. It is currently bridged to 1 @ 600. The subs are dual 4 ohm voice coils ran in series (don't want to blow things up, yet). If I wired them in parallel I could hardy imagine how loud it would be. I'm happy with it for now ! I know what you are thinking, who the hell makes Power Amper? I thought the same until I visited their web site and did some reading, that and the price I paid in an auction for it I really couldn't lose!
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I trust you when you say it sound loud. My amp drive about 360w @ 4 ohms and it enough for me. It does not "destroy" the car, but it sonds great to my hears. Also, I have a 18 months old baby, so I cannnot crank up the volume too loud.
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Sorry about the faux pas - I should have also included the link to the original post: http://www.matrixvibe.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=696 I only mention this because there's another comment about how they should have attached the sub to the cover instead of the "compartment". On a related note : there's another person that's considering side panel subs. http://www.matrixvibe.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=816 It is possible that these installs are using fiberfill insulation to "enhance" the effective enclosure volume, but none of these would hold a candle to the sound that pissedoffgokart is probably enjoying. Just a couple of questions :1. How thick is the fiberglass - is there any rattling ?2. Did you re-use the stock box-bottom?I'm assuming that you do this professionally and that this isn't a do-it-yourself project?
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Actually mine was a DIY project but, I have been doing this stuff to my cars for 13 years. 1. No problem with the fiberglass rattling, I left a few of the rubber spare tire support thingy's in there. I used 3 layers of fiberglass.2. I took everything spare tire related out. I actually placed foil on the floor of the trunk inside ot the wood frame. cut the fiberglass into small strips in order to mold it, It really is a pain in the booty but that is what you gotta do in order to please the boss with the cargo room!Approximate cubic feet of the enclosure is 2, and yes there is polly fill. Approx 50%
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So you haven't built a MDF enclosure and then add fiberglass finish?Your fiberglass enclosure is stong enough to handle your sub kick?I know I don't have much knowledge with fiberglass but most of installation I have seen are built with mdf enclosure with fiberglass for a good finish.
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The frame work and top is MDF but the bottom is FG, so that I could mold it to the contours of the floor of the trunk. The top of the box is vynal right not but I am going to switch it out for some low tech automotive carpet. As far as the strengt of the fiberglass is concerned, it sits on the floor of the trunk so essentially it is being supported directly by metal. 3 layers of glass makes for a pretty freakin' strong bottom! I goofed on my first attempt and tried to remove what I had done from the framework with a hammer, I couldn't even break it!!! I had to cut if off with a jigsaw! I started completely over it was such a mess!
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POGK- sweet install. I think I might look into doiong a side install behind the tire well. Depends on the price.
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There is plenty of airspace back there, but, contouring would be a beotch! You would more than likely have to go with 10's or smaller due to mounting depth.
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Thanks for the advise!. I hope my car audio guy can figure something out.
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