Injen CAI Group Buy

celica girl · Post by **celica girl** » Tue May 11, 2004 1:56 am

I need a headcount of who is interested... please post below and indicate what model Vibe you have. $320+GST CDN (Shipping will be added to those people not in Edmonton or Calgary) Color Available Either in Black Chrome(+$11) or Polish Chrome*Shipping to Ontario will be approx $12-$15*If we get more than 5 people I can drop it to $315+GST1. Mavrick Base2. Vibe Chick Base3. Keely GT Deadline is Monday May 17th.

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Tue May 11, 2004 1:59 am

Mavrik2004 base VibeBut I need one by june... and polished.

VibeChick · Post by **VibeChick** » Tue May 11, 2004 2:09 am

Add me to the list.2004 Base Vibe

DjDoubleLP · Post by **DjDoubleLP** » Tue May 11, 2004 2:31 am

Quote, originally posted by VibeChick Â»Add me to the list.2004 Base VibeHmmmm............fast girl huh??? I LIKE.

Keely · Post by **Keely** » Tue May 11, 2004 2:36 am

Quote, originally posted by DjDoubleLP Â»Hmmmm............fast girl huh??? I LIKE. VC and JC, I'm thinking this northerner needs a little schoolin' on the true nature of us Calgary girls and our rides.I'm in! JC, you know I'm driving a GT. After all, I can't let CC and VC driving a faster unit than myself.

celica girl · Post by **celica girl** » Tue May 11, 2004 2:53 am

Mavrick, Shouldn't be a problem.If you guys know of any Matrix owners who want in on this let me know.

ZubenElGenubi · Post by **ZubenElGenubi** » Tue May 11, 2004 4:30 am

Is that CA$320 ? I'm only saying 'cuz it seems high.What would the USD price be? I might be interested...-Glenn

DjDoubleLP · Post by **DjDoubleLP** » Tue May 11, 2004 4:34 am

Quote, originally posted by Keely Â»VC and JC, I'm thinking this northerner needs a little schoolin' on the true nature of us Calgary girls and our rides.I'm in! JC, you know I'm driving a GT. After all, I can't let CC and VC driving a faster unit than myself. HA HA HA!! Well then.....schoolin' huh?? Shame that I used to live in Airdrie so I know already about "Calgary" girls.

VibeChick · Post by **VibeChick** » Tue May 11, 2004 4:45 am

Quote, originally posted by DjDoubleLP Â»HA HA HA!! Well then.....schoolin' huh?? Shame that I used to live in Airdrie so I know already about "Calgary" girls. Oh? And what is it that you know about "Calgary" girls?

AKLGT · Post by **AKLGT** » Tue May 11, 2004 4:48 am

best way to convert from usd to cad is $1.33 cad to $1.00 usd. so, if you take $320 and divide by 1.33 or multiply by .75 it will be $240 USD. but yes, that does seem kinda high.

AKLGT · Post by **AKLGT** » Tue May 11, 2004 4:56 am

i just checked out ptuning.com and they have injen intakes w/ free shipping for $223 USD and $216 USD for the vibe including the polished one. plus, if you tell them you're from gvc or mo.com they will give you a 5% discount! that'll bring down prices to $205.20-$211.85 USD w/ free shipping. that's cheaper than what this other place is giving you. that works out to be approx $272.92-$281.76 CAD + GST

ZubenElGenubi · Post by **ZubenElGenubi** » Tue May 11, 2004 4:57 am

Well, if the price is indeed CAN$320, meaning US$240, I'll pass.You can get a new Injen CAI from Ptuning for US$215.95 (with free shipping):http://www.ptuning.com/html/sp...=VibeThe black CAI is US$223.95.-Glenn

AKLGT · Post by **AKLGT** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:00 am

oops. sorry, looks like the free shipping applies only to the continental US. but i know they will ship to Canada. should call them on their toll free # to find out cost.

celica girl · Post by **celica girl** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:08 am

I have found that the prices in the US are a lot cheaper than here but once you figure in shipping and all the brokerage fees it works out to be about the same. UPS charges an arm and a leg for it... as does Fedex.

celica girl · Post by **celica girl** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:11 am

OK... you figure $215x1.33= $285.95CDN $285.95 x 1.07GST = $305.9665Plus Shipping and Brokerage... Let's say $15USD to ship... $19.95CDNBrokerage is approx $30 thru UPS.So... $355.96Please correct me if I'm wrong.If we get 5+ people in my group buy it's $337.05I'll talk to my guy and see if he can do better... but to me it seems reasonable.

AKLGT · Post by **AKLGT** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:12 am

um.. what if you were to ship it to someone in the lower 48 states for the free shipping, then carrie can bring back a box or two on the plane?? to avoid some of those fees?

celica girl · Post by **celica girl** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:14 am

Quote, originally posted by ZubenElGenubi Â»Well, if the price is indeed CAN$320, meaning US$240, I'll pass.You can get a new Injen CAI from Ptuning for US$215.95 (with free shipping):http://www.ptuning.com/html/sp...=VibeThe black CAI is US$223.95.-GlennThis groupbuy benefits the people in Canada more than the people in the US... there are no shipping charges to anyone in Alberta.

VibeChick · Post by **VibeChick** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:14 am

Quote, originally posted by silverawd26 Â»Will they allow something that big on the plane?Hey! you calling me fat!! I'm sure they will let me on the plane

celica girl · Post by **celica girl** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:16 am

Quote, originally posted by trdvibe Â»um.. what if you were to ship it to someone in the lower 48 states for the free shipping, then carrie can bring back a box or two on the plane?? to avoid some of those fees?When going thru customs you'd probably have to have the proper paperwork for them... showing that they were made in the US so that you do not get charged duty on them. I don't think it would be easy to bring them back.

ZubenElGenubi · Post by **ZubenElGenubi** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:17 am

Hey, if we can get cheap drugs from Canada, why shouldn't you be able to get cheap CAIs from US? Seems fair.Speaking of fair...If you don't get five people, the cost is CAN $342.40. And anyone outside of Edmonton or Calgary will have to add another $10-15. Just trying to keep apples-apples here. I wonder if a border crossing would work...that Michigan super meet isn't far off (in both time and distance).

celica girl · Post by **celica girl** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:19 am

Cheap drugs eh?

AKLGT · Post by **AKLGT** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:19 am

yes, when i moved to VA, we took 10 dish size boxes w/ us. you can take the CAI units out of the box. most of it is shipping/packing material. i still have my box and have the factory air box, and a bunch of other car related parts in it. it's lightweight too. you can get a dish pack and put them all in one and check it on the plane. you get 2 pieces to check in and 1 carry on, plus a purse/laptop. or ship it from MI if you have to.. just a thought.

Keely · Post by **Keely** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:25 am

Quote, originally posted by celica girl Â»OK... you figure $215x1.33= $285.95CDN $285.95 x 1.07GST = $305.9665Plus Shipping and Brokerage... Let's say $15USD to ship... $19.95CDNBrokerage is approx $30 thru UPS.So... $355.96Please correct me if I'm wrong.If we get 5+ people in my group buy it's $337.05I'll talk to my guy and see if he can do better... but to me it seems reasonable.Yes, as someone that buys a lot of merchandise online from US sites, I can tell you that you look at the USD prices and think that it's a much better deal than buying in Canada. Over the past few years, retailers have gotten a lot better at charging "properly" (and the CCRA at monitoring it) for goods traveling over the border. Once the USD is converted into CDN, you have to add the GST, brokerage and shipping costs to EVERYTHING. JC's calculations are accurate above.So, the deal is good for us Canadians, but makes no sense for US people. That's just the price we pay for living in the best country in the world (ducks to avoid flames) .Plus, to me, the convenience factor of having JC work hard and getting the deal together so I don't have to shop around for something I know nothing about: priceless.

AKLGT · Post by **AKLGT** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:25 am

Quote, originally posted by silverawd26 Â»I swear it is not a pipe bomb officer!HA HA HA!!!!

celica girl · Post by **celica girl** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:26 am

If anyone can find me a better deal please let me know. I'm not trying to rip anyone off and I don't get anything out of running the group buy... just doing it for my new friends.

celica girl · Post by **celica girl** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:29 am

Don't forget.. if you buy outside alberta you have to pay PST... and I think it's quite a pain in the (removed) to try to claim that back.

Keely · Post by **Keely** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:30 am

Quote, originally posted by silverawd26 Â»I will keep my eyes and ears open for ya. I forgot where some Triton purchased his CAI, I would try to hit him up, they had a decent price.Go ahead, but you're getting into 6 of one and half a dozen of the other territory. So Aaron may have a great price from his supplier, but once we have to ship 5+ units up here, pay the GST and brokerage fees, we're right where JC is taking us."Free trade" doesn't exist for the rest of North America, I'm afraid.

AKLGT · Post by **AKLGT** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:34 am

no, we know that, jackie. just trying to figure out a way so you guys aren't having to pay so much damn tax and fees! yeesh!!!! phil should buy his and have it sent to rasermon or ragingfish from ptuning. then mike or rich can bring it to the meet and we can install it there. and same thing for carrie, but she'd have to bring hers back w/ her. what do you guys do when you buy clothes or souvenirs and bring them back from the US? you gotta pay all kinds of taxes on that stuff too??? guess i can't complain about shipping costs to alaska anymore! but i have a client that's a customhouse broker for us-can. i'll ask her how it all works out.

celica girl · Post by **celica girl** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:36 am

Quote, originally posted by silverawd26 Â»Hmm...What happens if someone bought the CAI and shipped the filters in 1 box and wrapped the metal tubing indivially and they sent them to you folks up there post marked "Gifts" and then mailed the instructions in a manilla envelope?Think I am missing the whole concept.... Let me read up on this.Keely, how are those grills? YOu can only mark something as a gift with a value of less than $60... so if you were to insure your cai at $60 that would be a big risk to you if it was to get damaged or lost you would only get $60 back.

AKLGT · Post by **AKLGT** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:37 am

Quote, originally posted by silverawd26 Â»Hmm...What happens if someone bought the CAI and shipped the filters in 1 box and wrapped the metal tubing indivially and they sent them to you folks up there post marked "Gifts" and then mailed the instructions in a manilla envelope?Think I am missing the whole concept.... Let me read up on this.Keely, how are those grills? yes, that's what i was thinking. had to do that w/ my engine cover when i sent it to Ryan at grafxwerks.

celica girl · Post by **celica girl** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:38 am

Quote, originally posted by trdvibe Â»no, we know that, jackie. just trying to figure out a way so you guys aren't having to pay so much damn tax and fees! yeesh!!!! phil should buy his and have it sent to rasermon or ragingfish from ptuning. then mike or rich can bring it to the meet and we can install it there. and same thing for carrie, but she'd have to bring hers back w/ her. what do you guys do when you buy clothes or souvenirs and bring them back from the US? you gotta pay all kinds of taxes on that stuff too??? guess i can't complain about shipping costs to alaska anymore! but i have a client that's a customhouse broker for us-can. i'll ask her how it all works out.It Makes sense for Phil to do it... when you come back to Canada from the US you have to tell them how much money you spent down there... they will then tell you how much you owe in customs fees.

AKLGT · Post by **AKLGT** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:38 am

ya, but can you bring the tubing back on the plane w/ you if you check it in? how does that work? you guys get nailed for that too??? *bends over and grabs ankles*

AKLGT · Post by **AKLGT** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:39 am

Quote, originally posted by celica girl Â»It Makes sense for Phil to do it... when you come back to Canada from the US you have to tell them how much money you spent down there... they will then tell you how much you owe in customs fees.well, technically, he wouldn't be spending the money on the CAI while he was there...

AKLGT · Post by **AKLGT** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:42 am

Quote, originally posted by silverawd26 Â»OR....This would be tricky.... Have a person from say Michigan drive to Ontario, meet up with Phil and drop off the "Goods" and then he mails them to the others. OR....mail the tubing to yourself (carrie perhaps) from the TO airport? and really, you wouldn't have bought anything in MI. it would have already been paid for and waiting for pick up only. right?

celica girl · Post by **celica girl** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:44 am

You still need to go thru customs between Michigan and TO. They will want to know what all the shiny pipes are for.

AKLGT · Post by **AKLGT** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:45 am

well, there's got to be a way you can do it w/o getting jacked so much!

celica girl · Post by **celica girl** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:46 am

Quote, originally posted by trdvibe Â»OR....mail the tubing to yourself (carrie perhaps) from the TO airport? and really, you wouldn't have bought anything in MI. it would have already been paid for and waiting for pick up only. right?If she's gonna mail it from TO she might as well just bring it back with her to Alberta... it won't make a difference within Canada.... it's between the US and Canada that you have problems.

VibeChick · Post by **VibeChick** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:48 am

wow, you guys are getting creative now! LOL

celica girl · Post by **celica girl** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:49 am

THere is a way but it's much more complicated and IMO not worth it... EDIT: Just spoke to my friend who did this... he said it's not worth it... it works out to be about the same.

ZubenElGenubi · Post by **ZubenElGenubi** » Tue May 11, 2004 5:58 am

Wow....step away for a few minutes and it's post-go-nuts over here.Anyway, for what it's worth, here's Ptuning's shipping estimates to Edmonton (T6H 5C2):Fed Ex Ground: $15.80US ($21.07 CAN)USPS EMS (?): $30.50US ($40.67 CAN)Now, just for my knowledge, what is a brokerage fee? -Glenn

celica girl · Post by **celica girl** » Tue May 11, 2004 6:01 am

Quote, originally posted by ZubenElGenubi Â»Wow....step away for a few minutes and it's post-go-nuts over here.Anyway, for what it's worth, here's Ptuning's shipping estimates to Edmonton (T6H 5C2):Fed Ex Ground: $15.80US ($21.07 CAN)USPS EMS (?): $30.50US ($40.67 CAN)Now, just for my knowledge, what is a brokerage fee? -GlennBrokerage fees are what places like Fedex and UPS charge ON TOP OF SHIPPING COSTS you to do the 'paperwork' to bring the package over... UPS will charge a flat rate for brokerage AND they will charge you a percentage of the total value of the product up to a maximum dollar amount(I can't remember how much). This is how they make money.Thanks for posting the shipping costs.

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Tue May 11, 2004 6:02 am

Without paying for shipping cause I an go pick it right up from the store. I can get a polished Cold Air Intake from AEM brand for $298 including filter and oil for it. Its the same thing as Injen in design, only difference is the price and availablity.

celica girl · Post by **celica girl** » Tue May 11, 2004 6:04 am

AEM and Injen are not alike... from my experience (I have AEM)... Injen fits better. I also got a CEL from my AEM intake and the injen owners did not.$298 tax in? Or do you have ot add GST and PST on that price?

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Tue May 11, 2004 6:06 am

Before Tax... I have been hearing the best in regards to Injen but AEM does a LOT of CAI as well and haven't heard of anyone else with engine lights coming on. How would Injen fit better then AEM? where is the design difference?

celica girl · Post by **celica girl** » Tue May 11, 2004 6:09 am

Quote, originally posted by Mavrik Â»Before Tax... I have been hearing the best in regards to Injen but AEM does a LOT of CAI as well and haven't heard of anyone else with engine lights coming on. How would Injen fit better then AEM? where is the design difference?I always thought AEM was better too... but in my experience with the celica the injen has had better results. most people I know with the AEM on their celicas have a CEL.... AEM has now come out with a V2 intake and I think what they changed was the placement of the MAF. So I think that helped. Also I had to cut a lot when I put the intake in... I had to cut the wheelwell to get it to fit. When we installed CC's intake it fit great. 4 hours for the AEM vs. 90 minutes on the injen...So your AEM is the same price as the injen that I can get for you... it's totally up to you which way you go.

DjDoubleLP · Post by **DjDoubleLP** » Tue May 11, 2004 6:12 am

Quote, originally posted by celica girl Â»I always thought AEM was better too... but in my experience with the celica the injen has had better results. most people I know with the AEM on their celicas have a CEL.... AEM has now come out with a V2 intake and I think what they changed was the placement of the MAF. So I think that helped. Also I had to cut a lot when I put the intake in... I had to cut the wheelwell to get it to fit. When we installed CC's intake it fit great. 4 hours for the AEM vs. 90 minutes on the injen...So your AEM is the same price as the injen that I can get for you... it's totally up to you which way you go.I have an AEM CAI on my XRS....and i have never had a check engine light or any problems.

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Tue May 11, 2004 6:16 am

and your engine is the same as mine there mike? Base Matrix 1.8? Cause its apparently the same CAI for the two engines I was told.

celica girl · Post by **celica girl** » Tue May 11, 2004 6:18 am

I didn't have one for the first year and a half and then there it was... I had the ecu read and it says I'm running lean... which is what everyone else had problems with.

Keely · Post by **Keely** » Tue May 11, 2004 6:24 am

Quote, originally posted by silverawd26 Â»...Think I am missing the whole concept.... Let me read up on this.Keely, how are those grills? No offence, but .... yes. It seems to be a common misconception that if you claim something as a gift you will not be charged duty. I had a friend send me a $15USD book, and it cost me $20CDN in duty.The grilles look great ... in the box! Just waiting for the FRICKIN' SNOW TO STOP FALLING so I can wash my car and install them and the decals I ordered from GrafxWeks.

Madman · Post by **Madman** » Tue May 11, 2004 6:55 am

Why not get the Cosmo Racing piece instead? Way cheaper, made in Canada, shipped from Canada and from doing some reading, it is a very decent piece if not better than most.http://www.cosmoracing.com/productlist.asp?cid=148