Engine Power

[Pump233ca]

Ok heres my question...I have a 2003 Vibe 5Speed Sport Package..I also have 2003 CorollaS 5Speed, ok now both have same Motor I assume the same Transmission(different linkage) the Vibe is lighter than the Corolla (almost 200kg) but the Corolla is Quicker to Ramp up and seems alot smoother over all..shifts etc, the Vibe seems almost sluggish when I go form one car to the other.. Any ideas or input?

[ragingfish]

Actually, the vibe is heavier than the corolla.Corolla Weight: 2524 lbs.Vibe Weight: 2700 lbs.

[Pump233ca]

oops....got my numbers mixed up.....

[joatmon]

the transmission gear ratios are the same for the corolla/matrix/vibe 5 speedare the tires the same size?maybe the difference between the toyota and GM ECUs,? Has it always been that way, or has the difference developed over time? How does it feel if you add the weight difference to the corolla?

[drummerdude]

My thinking was that the corollaS had the vvtl-i engine in it while the base 5spd has the vvt-i? I'm probably wrong as usual

[wicked1981]

Quote, originally posted by ragingfish »Actually, the vibe is heavier than the corolla.Corolla Weight: 2524 lbs.Vibe Weight: 2700 lbs.Thats weird when I looked on the drivers side door the sticker says it weight 2880lb.... That sucks!! My bro has a 97 Grand Prix GT and his car is lighter than mine his car was I think 2300lb!!

[ragingfish]

Quote, originally posted by drummerdude »My thinking was that the corollaS had the vvtl-i engine in it while the base 5spd has the vvt-i? I'm probably wrong as usual Nope. All three Corollas share the same VVT-i engine. The VVTL-i will be used in the upcoming Corolla XRS.Quote, originally posted by wicked1981 »Thats weird when I looked on the drivers side door the sticker says it weight 2880lb.... That sucks!! My bro has a 97 Grand Prix GT and his car is lighter than mine his car was I think 2300lb!!I used 2004 model year numbers. They may be lighter than the older ones. *shrug*Also, each trim is a different weight (again, 2004 numbers):Base: 2,700 AWD: 2,980GT: 2,780 Same for the Corolla (2004 numbers):(Manual / Automatic)CE: 2,502 / 2,568S: 2,524 / 2,590LE: 2,524 / 2,590

[drummerdude]

so what is the difference between the engines on the S/CE/LE? why would you give it an "S" if all you do is put a letter on it and side skirts?

[ragingfish]

All 3 models use the "All-aluminum 1.8-liter DOHC 16-valve VVT-i 4-cylinder 130 hp @ 6,000 rpm; 125 lb.-ft. @ 4,200 rpm" engine.As to differences, it appears they are purely cosmetic and feature-oriented. For example:Here are your major differences: CE AVAILABLE OPTIONS AND PACKAGES All-Weather Guard Package -- includes windshield molding, anti-chipping tape, heavy-duty heater and rear heater duct Available Options: 4-wheel Anti-lock Brake System (ABS) with Electronic Brake-force Distribution (EBD) Front seat-mounted side airbagsCruise controlPower door locksDeluxe 3-in-1 AM/FM Cassette/CD with four speakers S AVAILABLE OPTIONS AND PACKAGES Sport Plus Package -- includes 15" aluminum alloy wheels with P195/65R15 tires and color-keyed rear spoiler Power Package -- includes power windows and remote keyless entry All-Weather Guard Package -- includes windshield molding, anti-chipping tape, heavy-duty heater and rear heater duct Available Options: 4-wheel Anti-lock Brake System (ABS) with Electronic Brake-force Distribution (EBD) Front seat-mounted side airbagsCruise controlPower tilt/slide moonroof with sunshadeDeluxe AM/FM CD with six speakersDeluxe 3-in-1 AM/FM Cassette/CD with four speakersLE AVAILABLE OPTIONS AND PACKAGES Leather Trim Package -- includes Pebble Beige leather-trimmed seats and headrests, door trim and steering wheel; chrome-accented parking brake and shift lever; cruise control; and auto-dimming electrochromic rearview mirror with maplights and compass All-Weather Guard Package -- includes windshield molding, anti-chipping tape, heavy-duty heater and rear heater duct Available Options: 4-wheel Anti-lock Brake System (ABS) with Electronic Brake-force Distribution (EBD) Front seat-mounted side airbagsCruise controlPower tilt/slide moonroof with sunshadeDeluxe AM/FM CD with six speakersDeluxe 3-in-1 AM/FM Cassette/CD with six speakers15" aluminum alloy wheels with P195/65R15 tires

[AKLGT]

the S package is just an exterior package... the lower rockers, spoiler, etc. i thnk it has some "sport tuned" suspension but nothing more. i almost purchase one in indigo ink. then was disappointed to find that indeed it did not have teh vvtl-i engine, but the vvt-i. mike's right, the corolla gts will be coming out in 05 w/ the vvtl-i.

[ragingfish]

Quote, originally posted by trdvibe »mike's right, the corolla gts will be coming out in 05 w/ the vvtl-i.*cough* xrs *cough* *cough* sorry, something caught in my throat...

[AKLGT]

Quote, originally posted by ragingfish »*cough* xrs *cough* *cough* sorry, something caught in my throat...oh be technical why don't you! blah blah blah! whatever! you know what i meant! the celica is the gts, but they are getting rid of that i guess in 05 i hear. what a shame!