School Me on Cold Air Intake

yank dini · Post by **yank dini** » Sun Jun 08, 2003 9:22 pm

After buying and installing a K & N Air Filter this weekend. I noticed immediately the change in engine performance. Now I would like to give the CAI a shot. How much of a difference does it make. I was looking at the Typhoon for about $230.00.

Triton · Post by **Triton** » Sun Jun 08, 2003 9:54 pm

I bought my Injen CAI from Adventon.com for $197.24 for blue, red or black and a Vibe GT (listed as Matrix XRS). They offer the polished one for $191.26 for the GT. For the base, the price is $191.26 for the colors and $185.29 for polished.Here is a link to the page: http://www.adventon.com/acb/showprod.cf ... up_ID=1956 They also have AEM intakes on the same page. Hope this helps. Also, I love my Injen CAI! Great mod!

yank dini · Post by **yank dini** » Sun Jun 08, 2003 10:03 pm

how much more HP and how much of a difference is there in accleration low-end grunt etc etc...

Triton · Post by **Triton** » Sun Jun 08, 2003 10:13 pm

By the dynos, there say there is a 12.1 hp increase at the wheels and 7.4 lbs. of torque for the GT/XRS. For the base/XR it is a 8.1 hp gain and 5.1 lbs. of torque. I really feel the torque increase in my GT. It gives me more torque at lower RPMs. The sound is incredible as well.

yank dini · Post by **yank dini** » Sun Jun 08, 2003 10:27 pm

how easy is it to install or should I look into having some one put it in for me.I think I am going to jump on this

Triton · Post by **Triton** » Sun Jun 08, 2003 10:56 pm

It takes about an hour and a half. You can do it yourself especially with some of the posts about CAI installs on here. There are some listed with pics. I would also have someone help you. It makes filter installation a lot easier. http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=1281

Kissfan79 · Post by **Kissfan79** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 1:56 pm

What kind of diferences did you notice? Do you acutally notice a difference in your car's accereleration? I was thinking of getting a K&N air filter but I thought spending ~$40 on an air filter might not be a good idea if I plan to get a CAI later on down the road.Jim

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 2:41 pm

I recommend injen.I bought my injen from ptuning.com...cost me about $255 with no charge for shipping.Took me about 2 hours to install, because I was doing it alone. Found it, more or less, very easy! And if I can do it, TRUST ME, you can do it...I notice a much meaner noise from the car, it screams "don't mess with me, i got power." And it really seems to get great pickup to.Plus, it's a great conversation piece at vibe meets or other gatherings...

Triton · Post by **Triton** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 9:36 pm

If I remember right, the shipping on the intake from Adventon is around $10 to $15, still putting the price well below PTuning. I bought the Injen intake and matching oil cap for around $250 shipped.

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 1:34 am

i went with ptuning for a bit more because if i have warranty issues, i can go straight to injen.when buying from adventon, you have to go to thm for warranty issues, which may prove to be more difficult...plus, the guy was really nice there, gave me a discount, special ordered for me...worth the few extra bucks...

yank dini · Post by **yank dini** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 5:31 am

quote:What kind of diferences did you notice? Do you acutally notice a difference in your car's accereleration? I was thinking of getting a K&N air filter but I thought spending ~$40 on an air filter might not be a good idea if I plan to get a CAI later on down the road.JimWell I need a quick fix to get some more air into the engine so I went with the air filter. The big plus with it is that it quiets the engine when you rev it a little. Over all it's great but if you are going CAI then wait

MonotoneSatellite · Post by **MonotoneSatellite** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 2:19 am

Is there any reason that the Injen CAI wouldn't be compatable with the forth coming SC from Pontiac?

Pablo1669 · Post by **Pablo1669** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 2:39 am

Am I seriously the only person with the AEM instead of Injen?

red · Post by **red** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 2:50 am

does it really REALLY improve that dead spot that appears on the awd around 3,000 to 4,000 rpms, not only in feel but actually goooooo? i'm glad you bought one, cause i've been wishin' but no one put one on a awd yet here! is it the short or long version? whats the hardest part of the installation?

yank dini · Post by **yank dini** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 2:51 am

Probably I was actually look at the K & N Typhoon. I'll probably opt for an Injen as well especially if it takes K&N Air Filters

millster · Post by **millster** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 3:10 am

quote:Is there any reason that the Injen CAI wouldn't be compatable with the forth coming SC from Pontiac?The only reason it shouldn't is if the S/C moves the location of the throttlebody inlet.

MonotoneSatellite · Post by **MonotoneSatellite** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 3:14 am

quote:The only reason it shouldn't is if the S/C moves the location of the throttlebody inlet. Cool. Thanks for the info. I guess I will hold off until I find out for sure.

HCguy · Post by **HCguy** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 8:40 am

Hi guys, I'm new here. well I've tried to read all the threads... I'd like a short ram intake but apperantly no one has posted if there is an actual fuel economy... anyone know?

meathead333 · Post by **meathead333** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 8:47 am

i just got my short ram, i like it. i cant really tell a difference in fuel. i do know though i floor it alot more now

HCguy · Post by **HCguy** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 11:22 am

lol... cool. thx but what I'd really like to know is numbers ( don't need to be precise). Can anyone do me a favor and check their milage in "normal" driving conditions? I was able to get 40mpg once LoL (don't know how though except that I was driving 60mph)

Alfa · Post by **Alfa** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 12:21 am

Been lurking here for a while. My Vibe gets lots of use... 400 miles/wk and been thinking about a CAI. But looking at the routing of the CAI air inlet it seems the routing is the same as the stock airbox supply. It is no more "cold" than stock. Any performance improvements must be from more air getting into the system.One other thing when it is time to replace the filter ... what 100K miles who supplies them?

wicked1981 · Post by **wicked1981** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 6:37 am

[QUOTE=Alfa] But looking at the routing of the CAI air inlet it seems the routing is the same as the stock airbox supply. It is no more "cold" than stock. Any performance improvements must be from more air getting into the system. [QUOTE]Actually the inlet tube of the CAI is more heat resistant than the plastic stock air box keeping the air cooler as in enters the intake manifold. Also the inlet tube goes farther down than the stock box it ends by the fog light. the rube is also bigger than stock allowing more air. Less heat, more air= more power. Trust me you will notice a big improvement with a cold air intake.

AKLGT · Post by **AKLGT** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 8:54 am

glad you decided to join us! well, the air filters only need cleaning about 50K miles. i have cleaned mine at 15K miles because of location, gets extremely nasty and dusty so needs more cleaning than perhaps other places. you don't throw the filter away. you just get a cleaning kit and clean it. should last about 1 million miles!

DowneastVibe · Post by **DowneastVibe** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 11:31 am

So does anyone really know which CAI is the better one? AEM, K&N or Injen? I am getting one this summer, I just dont know which one.

Pablo1669 · Post by **Pablo1669** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 10:36 pm

Quote, originally posted by DowneastVibe Â»So does anyone really know which CAI is the better one? AEM, K&N or Injen? I am getting one this summer, I just dont know which one.They probably all work just about the same, it all depends on price and availabilty, and personal choice

wicked1981 · Post by **wicked1981** » Tue Apr 20, 2004 4:09 am

go with Injen!

BruiserVibe · Post by **BruiserVibe** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:38 pm

I haven't been able to find the Injen CAI in anything but Black and Polished. I was looking for a Blue one. Maybe I'm just missing something...

Thewhite · Post by **Thewhite** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:05 pm

try with Cosmo Racing, they might have it in your colorhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...=6763

RCARLTON12 · Post by **RCARLTON12** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 11:19 pm

I installed a COSMO CAI over a year ago and it was BLUE , COST AROUND $120.00 including shipping . I had to shorten it by 2 inches to get it to fit . Itwas well worth the $$ in performance .

B14CK_H4WK · Post by **B14CK_H4WK** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:01 am

heres my custome cold air intakeengine lookcold air intake100% stainless steal filter messcustome PVC pipeing (soon to be painted)Vacume hose fitting

Kamikaze · Post by **Kamikaze** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:03 am

That looks like a short ram intake, not a CAI... Cold air would have the tube going thru the engine bay and out in front of the driver tire.

Petrucci914 · Post by **Petrucci914** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:08 am

No offense, but that's a bit ghetto-rigged. Not sure you're getting a gain at all with that. Those metal mesh filters aren't that good either....you're either sucking in too much debris or not enough air. Better off investing the $150 for a nice CAI or Short-Ram IMO. But to each their own.

lovemyraffe · Post by **lovemyraffe** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:20 am

Wow!!! The zip ties really make it look expensive...

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:02 am

Quote, originally posted by B14CK_H4WK Â»heres my custome cold air intakeengine lookcold air intake100% stainless steal filter messcustome PVC pipeing (soon to be painted)Vacume hose fittingYour going to have MAJOR issues with that set up.and judging by your other post you are already having problems... http://forums.genvibe.com/zero...72275As i suggested before... get that crap out from under your hood and buy a REAL CAI.A member is selling one now:http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=30567

yotatrix · Post by **yotatrix** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:00 am

^wow is this a joke.......man I was just about to say go with a cosmo racing if your concerned about money. I bought a TRD CAI for $209 off ebay and been happy ever since.

Petrucci914 · Post by **Petrucci914** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:43 am

You think we scared him away? I really wanted to hear a response.

Kamikaze · Post by **Kamikaze** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:57 am

I really feel bad if we did, cause I don't think we meant to, I didn't.I think for mock up purposes he did a good job... but I can see why he might be getting the CEL codes, there are just too many sensors on these cars.

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:51 am

And I was being nice... Taking his age into account I can understand why he did what he did. a 2dollor PVC pipe from any plumbing supply store is a cheap and easy route to take when your lacking funds. However, the trade off is that he most likely ruined his MAF sensor. So instead of saving up a hundred bucks he tried something. I give him props for trying it but, you MUST think things threw first and be prepared to suffer the consequences that come from your "shade tree mechanic" know how. This is one lesson I am sure he learned well because last time I checked a MAF sensor for our cars is 70bucks for a base and 119 for a GT.http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/catalog/frameset.cfm

B14CK_H4WK · Post by **B14CK_H4WK** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:02 am

i figured there was no difference in a homemade one then a bought one but i guess im wrong i dunno too much about cars so. im def taking the ghetto rig off and thinking about buying the member CAI

Petrucci914 · Post by **Petrucci914** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:14 am

Ya, there's a difference. When you buy one you know that it's been tested and made specifically for your vehicle. You probably had leaks, probably not much power gain at all, and maybe even damanged your MAF. Make sure your battery is disconnected before messing with that sensor.

B14CK_H4WK · Post by **B14CK_H4WK** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:04 am

i pulled ti all off and put the old air filter box back on the cel went out on the first start so i dont think i damaged anything

zionzr2 · Post by **zionzr2** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:06 am

Quote, originally posted by B14CK_H4WK Â»i pulled ti all off and put the old air filter box back on the cel went out on the first start so i dont think i damaged anythingthats good news!!!

Kamikaze · Post by **Kamikaze** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:35 am

That's good news, it's a good thing you didn't ruin the MAF.I hate having to learn by expensive mistakes!

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:00 am

Quote, originally posted by B14CK_H4WK Â»i pulled ti all off and put the old air filter box back on the cel went out on the first start so i dont think i damaged anythinggive it about 100miles. It may return. But, I am glad you got rid of the CEL's

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