Ready To Buy A CAI...advice needed...

[ragingfish]

quote:Wow.... Sounds like you are stressed. ????About what? The cable going out? Hell yeah. I pay out the A** each month, get crappy service, lousy pictures, and it goes out half the time.

[ragingfish]

Unfortunately, it rained when I took it out for a test drive, so I wasn't able to get a good idea of what kind of acceleration gains I may have received...Maybe tomorrow...

[ragingfish]

No...but I can't really accelerate fast or I spin my wheels...I have noticed something that concerns me though...it now sounds like clanging metal, or a noise even similar to a loose fan belt, when the engine is running...Has anyone else with a CAI experienced similar noises?

[dmitri]

how do u not like the sound of the CAI...you say its too ricey. Whatd u expect lol? your not gonna get muscle car sound out of a 4 cyl. If you want quiet, leave your car stock or go with greddy exhaust, thats very quiet.

[ragingfish]

quote:how do u not like the sound of the CAI...you say its too ricey. Whatd u expect lol? your not gonna get muscle car sound out of a 4 cyl. If you want quiet, leave your car stock or go with greddy exhaust, thats very quiet. I didn't realize opening up the intake would make the engine louder...I thought it only got louder "downstream" from the combustion...know what I mean?

[ragingfish]

Just IMed them both and asked them for their insight as well...Thanks.

[wildcat]

has anyone purchased the heat/splash guard that injen has for the cai. i was curious if it would help prevent the intake from sucking up water. i have a cai on my grand am and the intake sucked up so much water it stalled the car out driving down the highway. i don't want that to happen again.

[ragingfish]

I have had NO problems with water in the intake, and it's been mad raining here since I installed it months ago.You should be fine. The filter comes down behind a splash guard. Chance of precip getting up in there, even with a big puddle, is low. And if a huge puddle splashes up in there, it is HIGHLY unlikely it will be enough to cause any damage.

[MonotoneSatellite]

Does anyone know if the current stock of CAI's will fit on the SC'd base Vibe? I plan on getting a CAI but don't want to buy one twice if I can avoid it. I have the $$$ now and will buy it know if it will be compatable with the forth coming SC from Pontiac/Toyota.Any help will be greatly appreciated.

[ragingfish]

As far as we know, NO, current CAI's will not fit with the supercharger. The supercharger changes the location/angle of the throttle opening, and pushes it further out. A new CAI will probably have to be developed for the S/C.

[MonotoneSatellite]

quote:As far as we know, NO, current CAI's will not fit with the supercharger. The supercharger changes the location/angle of the throttle opening, and pushes it further out. A new CAI will probably have to be developed for the S/C.Thanks! I guess a K&N filter is my near future!

[philndz]

quote:Thanks! I guess a K&N filter is my near future!You dont have to do that...I just installed a Short-Ram setup that I won on ebay. I got it for $40.00 and it is sweeeeeeeeet!

[joatmon]

Your signature used to say 145 HP. Now it's 148 HP. Does that mean all the trouble you went through only got you an additional 3 HP?(at least I'm paying attention)So here's a CAI question for the Injen/AEM folks, it looks like you have to loosen up a bunch of parts to install it. How much of that do you have to redo to clean (or check) the filter?

[BubbaBlueyz]

I just got my injen cai! I love it! Its got the greatest sound! I have played around all week with it in my GT vibe and I still got 21 mpg. I did see a horsepower gain! I hope someone out there will produce a computer chip for the vibe GT. If anybody is thinking about a CAI, I would recommend injen from PTuning.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Celtic_Curse]

What is the odb canister and all the vacuum lines sapposed to go once you get the CAi in is there anything left unplugged? And when did they change the CAI design no more big Injen on the pipe just a plate under the sensor bracket? Kinda liked teh big Red Injen on the pipe.

[wicked1981]

I got my CAI 2 days ago and love it. sounds great!!! 1 problem when its in drive the little vibration of the engine makes something (the cone) rattle. It sounds like the cone is hitting the wall by the tire? I really cant check it because when i put it in park it stops doing it. Im guessing because the engine revs higher when in drive? Has this happened to any one else?

[ragingfish]

Quote, originally posted by wicked1981 »I got my CAI 2 days ago and love it. sounds great!!! 1 problem when its in drive the little vibration of the engine makes something (the cone) rattle. It sounds like the cone is hitting the wall by the tire? I really cant check it because when i put it in park it stops doing it. Im guessing because the engine revs higher when in drive? Has this happened to any one else? Yes!I had a problem where when I made initial acceleration, or if I pushed the gas hard, I'd hear a rattle or what sounded like a torque noise within the engine. Dealer finally was able to hunt it down. Turned out, as the engine accelerates hard, it rotates backward on the mounts (rotates toward the driver) when you hit the gas hard. This caused the CAI to be pushed backward, causing the pipe to hit against the strut tower. Nick (NSimkins) gave me some adhesive padding to stick behind it, and the problem was solved!Unfortunately, can't remember the name of the stuff for the life of me...Nick?For some reason I think armaflex, but I'm not finding that anywhere on the internet...

[AKLGT]

not to get off the topic at hand, but i'm going on 3 wks without my CAI and i can tell a very noticeable difference. at about 3K rpm's the CAI kicked in and i could feel much more power. not as much passing power! i miss it! it'll be going back on soon!

[Train Man]

I am thinking of buy a CAI, but my father has other thoughts of not messing up the new car. But luckly he said if i could bring substantial info he wou THINK about it. So i need number, plus a saw a dino before and after read out on a injen CAI but i can't find it now. if some one could find me some of this info especially the dino chart that would be great.

[joatmon]

Welcome to genvibe! I don;t know where there's a dyno chart for an actual Pontiac Vibe, but injen has dyno charts for matrix, which is the saem engine, so the dyno charts should be the same as for a Vibe. You didn;t say if you had a base/awd or a GT, but if you go to http://www.injen.com/testing.html, at the bottom of the page there are links for the equivalent matrix dyno charts. You can really see the effect of "lift" in the XRS/GT.Matrix XR (Base vibe engine - 1ZZ) Matrix XRS (Vibe GT Engine - 2ZZ)

[geezer]

Here's a link to AEM's page for their intakes:http://www.aempower.com/product_intake_app.aspJust put in Toyota, Matrix, and either short ram or cold air intake in the selection fields. They don't list the Vibe but the parts are the same. An XRS uses the same intake as the Vibe GT and an XR is the same intake as the Base. The little graph symbol after the Application/Model will take you to a dyno of that particular model.I have an AEM short ram and love it.

[Celtic_Curse]

Looking in my engine bay and looking at the instructions to install the Injen intake are all the lines connected to the old air box reconnected to the injen cai? I only see the main sensor bracket and a little nipple on the one side. I'm not that super savy when it comes to this can anyone post where the lines are on their Injen intake so I can picture it better before I rip out my old air box? Thanks

[ragingfish]

On the base vibe, there are two hoses that connect to the airbox. The huge round one that goes from the cover to the throttle neck, and a smaller rubber one that attaches to the lower half of the box.There's a little cylinder that is hanging on the air box. That's your vacuum switching valve. The hoses stay attached to that. All you do is move that out of the way.The big fat hose gets removed entireley (replaced by CAI pipe), and the smaller rubber one connects to the nipple on the CAI pipe.This is about how it looks mounted in the engine:

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[Celtic_Curse]

Thanks much for the tip We finally got it installed. After reading everyones comments it certainly help me and CelicaGirl in getting the intake in. Had a few complications though. The rubber bushing that attaches to the car kept getting int he way so we took that off even though the instructions said to put it in first. Then the intake went in no problem, then we tilted the intake up und slid the bushing in and tightened it through the wheel well, the fit was excellent. One small thing the little peice that adjusts the fuse box up and out of the way was not there when we moved it, so we became creative and managed to fit the fuse box back into its stock brackets, overall took just over an hour to do the whole job. My thanks to CelicaGirl for all the help.

[wicked1981]

I had actually found the problem after a couple of days it was the filter vibrating against the fog light connector. Someone here suggested to push the filter up higher. That worked now I have another question. Does it seem like the Vibe is loud when you first start it on? as it warms up I guess the noise goes away. It just sounds like its trying to suck up a lot of air and its kinda loud. Is this normal?

[wicked1981]

Anyone notice this? Yes? No? Maybe?

[scherry2]

Quote, originally posted by wicked1981 » Does it seem like the Vibe is loud when you first start it on? as it warms up I guess the noise goes away. It just sounds like its trying to suck up a lot of air and its kinda loud. Is this normal? Yea, thats normal aint it cool!!

[rcasciola]

of course.. i love it.. its even better at high rpm's