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[POLO]

Have anyone try this goodies,seems fantastic in the dark" TARGET="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...7907.95 us the pair.

[ArcsVibe]

damn finally some Montrealers on this site!Welcome aboard!

[POLO]

Thanks

[russ257]

yeah they seem cool but be aware they might not be legal, check you local laws first. alot of places have rules about extrenal lights ie neons and such

[savedbyzero]

Please no! Rice-a-riffic!

[wicked1981]

Yeah seen a ton of these illegal in CA unless parked same as the LED exhaust tips.

[Psychobroker]

Even though I wouldn't add these to my car, it seems rediculous to make them illegal. I know they are, but why? I have seen them in action, and they look pretty cool.

[johnsoax]

I think that it is the thinking that a moving colored light is an emergency vehicle.

[Stang2Vibe]

They also claim that it is a distraction that may cause an accident. Stupid thinking, I know. I think that it is part of the conspiracy between government and car manufacturers to prevent people from having fun with cars. Anyone that would mistake those for the lights on an emergency vehicle should have their driver's lisence taken away!

[Merzbow]

Those neon laws (removed) me off more than escalades with 24"s. How would neon lights cause any sort of confusion what so ever? I gues I MIGHT be able to see how pulsing neon would be confusing if the person getting confused was like 90 years old. Also interrior PULSING neons might be confusing...BUT if the neons are just constantly on and not changing colors and everything than what is the big deal about it???They say purple neons are banned because hurses have purple lights...once again...ON THE TOP OF THE CAR!!! But another thing...what would a hurse be doing driving around at night with it's lights on?Perhaps someone in here that is in law-enforcement could enlighten me? I tried to ask the cop I got a ticket from why it was illegal but I gues to him I was coming off as a smart-a$$...after all, I am a just a stupid kid -Sorry about the rant, I just get fired up about these stupid neon bans. I think the tire flys look neat. Last winter I was drivin with my dad during an ice storm and this blue focus pulls next to us to turn right. Since it was solid ice, when he stepped on it to got the front tires just spun and the blue tire-flies lit up and made a ring around the tire...it looked pretty sharp

[Jahntassa]

The laws about flashing blue and red lights make sense..having blue or red on a car in GA is a potential ticket every day... I don't think they can REALLY do much if you have most other colors though...It's really a state-by-state thing. And since you need to be old and out of touch to be in our government..well..that explains a lot.Jesse James for president! w00t!

[Merzbow]

Yeah that would be fun if he was president! No more emition bull lol. Seriously though I want to know why neons are illegal, as long as they arn't red and blue togather.

[DopeVibeGT]

Hey Russ, you live in Strasburg or State college? I'm in Lancaster.

[mwebb]

I think the Wheel like looks really bar when they are on the car- if you are not going fast enough they look stupid- Just my opinionNeon laws are stupid-

[kaybeejay]

All lights on vehicles are standardized for a reason.Blue lights are usually reserved for police.amber lights are reserved for warnings.White lights are reserved to light up direction for travel.Red lights are for stopping.Strobes are reserved for emergency vehicles.Any other colors are generally not allowed.Firemen are trained to look for those blue reflectors in the streets to help them identify where the nearest fire hydrant is. The reason it's blue is so they stand out from the other amber/red/white reflectors on the road.Handicapped people look for blue painted parking spaces or painted curbs so they can immediately identify where they can park.Everything is color coded for a reason. So the people who need to use them can quickly identify them and use them efficiently. By allowing random cars to put on any color lights they wish on their cars only increases the chances that someone will get confused.If you want to legalize alternative colors, then the vehicle code needs to be be rewritten, and the drivers handbook needs to be rewritten. That is gonna cost alot of bucks to rewrite so many laws just so a few "individualists" want to put neon lights on their car - a useless mod to begin with.It's cheaper, and easier just to make them illegal and watch the revenue come in from ticketing youths who think its cool to have.It's not so much that neon lights are a "safety hazard" as much as they are pointless and serve no purpose. All the standard lights serve a purpose and they are outlined in the vehicle code. So there isn't enough reason to warrant changing all the aforementioned regulations.why would anyone want them on their cars anyways? Impress girls? stand out in the crowd? cause you saw it in Fast and Furious? Can anyone come up with a legit reason to install neon/blue/green/purple lights on their cars? Until there are legit reasons, they will remain illegal. By contrast, there are many reason to make them illegal.

[kaybeejay]

Quote, originally posted by Merzbow »Those neon laws (removed) me off more than escalades with 24"s. How would neon lights cause any sort of confusion what so ever? I gues I MIGHT be able to see how pulsing neon would be confusing if the person getting confused was like 90 years old. Also interrior PULSING neons might be confusing...BUT if the neons are just constantly on and not changing colors and everything than what is the big deal about it???They say purple neons are banned because hurses have purple lights...once again...ON THE TOP OF THE CAR!!! But another thing...what would a hurse be doing driving around at night with it's lights on?Perhaps someone in here that is in law-enforcement could enlighten me? I tried to ask the cop I got a ticket from why it was illegal but I gues to him I was coming off as a smart-a$$...after all, I am a just a stupid kid -Sorry about the rant, I just get fired up about these stupid neon bans. I think the tire flys look neat. Last winter I was drivin with my dad during an ice storm and this blue focus pulls next to us to turn right. Since it was solid ice, when he stepped on it to got the front tires just spun and the blue tire-flies lit up and made a ring around the tire...it looked pretty sharp I have read your post and I cannot find a legit reason to legalize the lights - other than you think they "look pretty sharp" or they "look neat".I don't think the neon laws are "stupid". The only stupid thing I see right now is your reasoning to legalize them.

[kaybeejay]

Quote »What are the laws limiting the different color lights you can have on your tires or undercarriage of your car? Are under vehicle ground effect lights legal in Arizona?Answer: There are many different extras you can add to your car to make it look really cool, including several types of lights that attach to various places on your car. Although these lights can make your car look cool, safety is one of the first considerations for Arizona laws on this topic. There are very specific guidelines in Arizona Law concerning colored lights and undercarriage or "Ground Effects" lights. Arizona law says (ARS §28-931) that any reflectors or lights mounted on the front or front side of a car be "amber" which is a yellowish-orange color. And any reflectors or lights on the back or side back must be red, except for signal lights which must be red, yellow or amber. The light illuminating the license plate must be white. Arizona Law (ARS §28-940) also addresses other car and truck lighting equipment. A car or truck cannot have: more than two side or fender lights and they must be amber or white color. more than one running board light on each side and they must be white or amber color. more than two backup lamps (like a spotlight) but the backup lamps must not be shining while the vehicle is in motion. Also, Arizona Law (ARS §28-947) has restrictions on the type of headlights you can have, and their brightness. And it is against Arizona Law for any car other than an emergency vehicle to have a red or blue light visible from the front of the vehicle.So, Arizona Law allows you to have certain lights of certain colors on your car, but you cannot put differently colored lights on the body, under carriage or tires of your car. Safety is the priority, and colored lights can be distracting. People's eyes need to be on the road instead of looking at cool lights in order to avoid causing accidents.Don't forget that some lights on your car are mandatory, like break lights, turn signals and headlights. You can be pulled over if any of these lights aren't working properly, so make sure to do regular maintenance on you car. Imagine if AZ didn't have such a law. Someone could in theory go crazy and install tons of multicolored lights all over their vehicle. It would be quite the distraction. The solution to that potential problem? Specific laws which tells you what colors, what angle, and how many lights a vehicle may have.

[Merzbow]

Personally I think they look sweet. Also, I absolutely HATED both fast and furious'. I was well aware of neon and street racing before that stupid movie came out.I don't care if girls are attracted to my car or not because barely any of them like cars to begin with, atleast the ones I am exposed to. You are right about standing out out. I like being unique and different I hate following the crowd. I love cars more than anything in the world so what better way to express myself?There is no legit reasons to install neons it's all in what you want. Just like everything else. You don't NEED anything besides food air and water...everything else is all about what you WANT.So what if it's only us "youths" that like such a stupid thing to you. You were my age once before too. What if I was your age and liked neons? It's not only us youths that like the neons either...my dad loves them and might get a set of blue ones for his Ford van. My mom likes them...I mean, Christ even my grandparents think they are good looking!It's exactly like our parent's generation...they modified old trans ams, chargers, dusters, road runners, everything. They took off the headers and manually chopped the springs...that is just as "reckless" if you ask me, yet no-one cares about that? This is the new age of tuning cars...we can no-longer afford trans ams or stangs. I'm extremely grateful my mom bought me this Vibe. I'm using what little money I make to modify it just like my dad used his hard earned money to customize his old '73 dodge van, and his Valient(spelling). If you don't like the neons and new age of tuning than please buy me a '68 Charger and you wont have to worry about it, because I sure as h*ll can't afford one. I had $2000 already saved up and I was like weeks away from buying a '88 Monte Carlo SS, but my mom, being as nice as she is, bought me this. Just think, if I would have gotten the Monte Carlo, we wouldn't be having this discussion, and I wouldn't have met so many nice, and interesting people on this site Sorry to sound snappy but EVERYONE sterotypes us kids as being inconsiderate and in-experienced with everything and it happens ALL THE TIME...that may be true but we're not stupid...well most of us arn't atleast. Everyone has their opinion...that's yours, this is mine.Thanks alot for clearing up the reason behind illegalizing them though...I appreciate it. I've been trying to figure that out for such a long time now, and like I said previously, when I would ask a cop, no matter how calm and nice it came out, they would just snap at me for being a smart alec. Thanks.

[kaybeejay]

In the traffic industry the people in charge tend to take things more seriously than they do on MTV. Everything needs to have a purpose. They don't jsut do things cause it "looks sweet". Just cause many people like things, they cannot have it their way. This isn't Burger King. If there is no practical reason to change the laws, then they will never be changed.The Vehicle Code exists for a reason. That is to prevent over the top behavior, and to make sure that all the users have a standard set of lights, shapes, bumpers, brakes, tires, reflectors, etc. If the gov starts to let everyone do something that is unique to their individual style - then there would be total chaos.The system is in place to ensure standardization, safety, and consistency. You could also say that its in place to "protect us from ourselves".

[kaybeejay]

Additional comment.I can think of one practical reason for undercarriage lights:I have some off-road buddies who want to explore the option of having ground effects or neons added to their 4x4 trucks for the purpose of night time offroading. They would make excellent "Rock Lights".Examples of Rock Lights:http://www.off-road.com/toyota....htmlh ... htmHowever just like other auxilarily lighting systems on 4x4's, they are not street legal and can only be used while off-roading.Ever wonder why big 4x4's cover up their roof lights with those happy face covers? I believe the law states that any of those fog lights/driving lights/etc mounted above the vehicle roofline needs to be covered up for on-road operation. At that height those lights would be blinding to other vehicles. But if you are the only vehicle on some back country trail - then its ok to use them.

[Merzbow]

That's fine with me, I understand why they do it, but I'm just going to do it illegally then, no big deal. I will take the consequences of getting caught. It's not going to kill anyone.I make my life worth living, I'm not just gonna sit there and waste my life following other people's guidlines. As long as it's not hurting anyone, or depriving them from living their own lives, than it doesn't really bother me. Making a firefighter hesitate for the 1.5 seconds it takes him to realize it is a car with red underbody kit instead of a fire hydrant or what ever people normally mistake red lights for doesn't count.You arn't giving people enough credit(well maybe not you, but the lawsystem doesn't) They are smarter than that, and if they can't tell the difference between a car with a neon glow under it over a little reflector or an emergency vehicle (which by teh way has lights on the top of the car not bottom, and has many more than four lights) than they seriously have no buisness on the road.

[kaybeejay]

Emergency workers mistaking lights is a very small part of the reason. (Oh yeah, the reason that those vehicles have so many lights is SO THEY STAND OUT. If everyone had that many lights, then the fire trucks/police/ambulance wouldn't stand out anymore will they? For that reason, those vehicles get special rules.)It's not likely anyone will ever mistake lights during an emergency, but the possibility is there and legally that protection is in place.I would imagine that if there was a mistake where someone made an error cause of excessive lights, there would probably be law suits and other ugly things. (admit it, its possible - but not likely)The larger issue is uniformity/standardization with all vehicles. (I already explained that part)

[Merzbow]

Ok, makes sense. lol. Oh well. I'm still stickin with my stated opinions.

[kaybeejay]

True story. It just happened to me a few minutes ago...It was dark, and I was driving down a typical city street, thru an industrial part of town. I was entering a four way intersection. There were cars at each leg of the intersection. Two were waiting at Stop signs and the 3rd was signaling waiting to turn left in front of me. I Was driving maybe 30mph.The car that was facing me then suddenly for no apparent reason flipped on its high beams and these weird redish colored lights. I didn't recognize them and thought maybe it was some sort of emergency vehicle. I focused on that mystery car for what must have been just a fraction of a second. For that little moment, I got tunnel vision and put all my attention on that weird red colored light. Then I realized that I should also be paying attention to other cars around me.For that moment, I froze. I didn't know what to do. Was that some sort of emergency vehicle... was it trying to tell me to pull over?... Oh crap, I forgot about those other cars on the sides, what if they moved...I was so focused on looking at that red light, that I lost track of what was going on.During that split second, my car (Traveling at about 30mph) probably travelled a good 300 ft.I am an experienced driver. I also drive professionally (I have a commerical class B license to drive trucks and school buses.). My professional occupation is to design roads in California. (Civil Engineer) If those simple red lights on the front of that car put me thru that level of confusion and loss of focus, then imagine what it will do to joe blow teenager rookie driver, or good ol 70 yr old Mrs Jones. During that short time of confusion, I travelled (probably) 300 ft. Alot can happen in 300 ft with a 4000 lbs SUV (That's what I was driving).It wasn't until after I got right next to that mystery car that I finally saw what lost lights were. Apparently the guy had painted or tinted fog lights to be a weird red color. It was probably illegal.Moral of this story:Lights are standardized and regulated for a reason. Once someone changes their car to "stand out", then they draw attention to themselves and may even confuse others. THAT IS WHY ITS ILLEGAL.Merzbow,I hope you reconsider your choice to knowingly break the vehicle code. The code is there for a reason, and you are being irresponsible, immature, and stupid if you go thru with it. In this discussion you have not provided a feasible reason which supports why you should be allowed to have them on - while I have provided reason after reason after reason as to why the law is the way it is.Go ahead and put those lights on your car and prove to the world that what I said about you is correct. Change your mind and skip them, and show the world that there is hope in you.

[kaybeejay]

Quote, originally posted by Merzbow »That's fine with me, I understand why they do it, but I'm just going to do it illegally then, no big deal. I will take the consequences of getting caught. It's not going to kill anyone.That's very selfish of you.REad my story above. You are not the only one will could be suffering the consequences.

[Merzbow]

Well, that IS pretty bad...that guy is an idiot for turning his lights on around other cars. I wait and turn mine on or off when I am away from people (basically in my garage). Also as I said before certain lights ARE un-acceptable....why anyone would change the color of their headlights is beyond me...I thought abuot getting red strobes pt in my driving light housings but I thought to myself "what if I accidentally turn them on it could really screw some stuff up" so I decide not to. In my opinion a red underbody kit that stays lit and isn't shining directly on anything butb the road isn't easily mistaken. I'm sorry about what happened, you're right alot can happen in 300ft.I already bought my neons last summer and I've had them in all last summer and fall. I just put them back on last night, so I gues I'm being selfish as you would say, but only in the aspect of driving. And the reason why I haven't given any justified statement to make neons legal is because there arn't any. It's just what I want. Some things you want badly and other people prevent you from your dreams. Having a car that I customize to my liking is one of my dreams and I'm going to do what it takes to fulfill atleast this one dream. If trying to fulfill one dream is selfish than I don't know what the point of living is...that's why I allways say live life to the fullest and you HAVE to think of yourself first every now and then,beacuse if you don't, than you probably wont lead a happy life. That's why I am happy. I do alot for others and I do alot for myself so it is all balanced.

[Merzbow]

I'm sorry I don't mean to sound like a d*ck but I have to stick up for myself I'm really not selfish at all but when it comes to cars that's the only thing I am really defensive about

[Fialchar]

I was going to ask why you were so (removed) retentive about neons, but I read your experience, which told me why. There's an obvious difference between painting forward facing lights, and installing lights that aren't even visible unless you crawl under the vehicle, though. The only replies I've gotten were "Imitation of a police officer" and "Imitation of an emergancy vehicle". As far as: "Someone could in theory go crazy and install tons of multicolored lights all over their vehicle." ..come on man, I think you're exaggerating a bit now. I have a red neon undercarriage kit, and the only place I use it is between my mailbox, and my garage, because that's the only place I'm ALLOWED to use it. It seems like you're condemning all of us as immature little kids who should burn in hell for installing neons or something

[kaybeejay]

Get involved in the industry. LEarn why the laws are the way they are. Then you will understand.If I had made a mistake cause of someone elses ilegal lights, and crashed. I would have sued. It's not likely but its out there.It's not illegal to have them installed. It is illegal to run them on public streets. If its your dream to install them and run them at shows and such, then be my guest - live out your dream. Just don't expect to be able to use them on publicly regulated streets which have to be used EQUALLY by everyone.Yes I am exaggerating. That is how they come up with laws. The law writers think of all the possioble outcomes of situations. They debate them, list pros and cons and then decide... is it worth the risk. IF their are records of them discussing the possibility of the unlikely events that I listed (I admit they are unlikely), and they decide not to act on it. Then it really does happen to someone, then you can bet that the gov agency is gonna get sued.Why do I think you are selfish? Cause you are only thinking about yourselF!! Put yourself in the shoes of the people you share the road with... put yourself in the shoes of the state law writers... Do you want the chance to be sued? Do you want to be potentially confused while on the road?Consider other people, before you fullfill your "Dream". You gotta share the road... don't be selfish.

[kaybeejay]

Quote, originally posted by Merzbow »I make my life worth living, I'm not just gonna sit there and waste my life following other people's guidlines. They are called laws. If you don't like them, you can always move out of the country.See what I mean by Immature?

[kaybeejay]

Quote, originally posted by Fialchar » It seems like you're condemning all of us as immature little kids who should burn in hell for installing neons or something "burn in hell"... Now who is exaggerating?I am just explaining the law. If you wanna take that lightly, then perhaps your ethics are out of wack.

[kaybeejay]

Quote, originally posted by Fialchar » The only replies I've gotten were "Imitation of a police officer" and "Imitation of an emergancy vehicle". As far as: "Someone could in theory go crazy and install tons of multicolored lights all over their vehicle." ..come on man, I think you're exaggerating a bit now. Those are extreme examples of what "Could" happen. That is what law makers need to consider when writing the vehicle code. The more common (and more likely) reason is standardization. All the vehicles on the road need to follow the same guidelines on vehicle characteristics. Headlight height, bumper height, volume of the stereo, etc.As it stands right now, blue lights are not a standard feature. The only times I can think of using blue lights are: a) the Police, B) The Handicapped, and C) Kmart. If there were a logical and practical reason to make then a standard feature, then the laws would change.Lets say it together... STANDARDIZATION STANDARDIZATION STANDARDIZATION STANDARDIZATION STANDARDIZATION STANDARDIZATION STANDARDIZATION

[Merzbow]

Yeah, you're right...sorry for getting so far off topic well not really off the main idea (removed)...but oh well. ONE last comment in regaurds to being selfish...As I stated earlier, I do ALOT for other people so I think it's about time I start doing something for myself. And the problem with moving to another country is that Ill have to follow more rules. I love this country and don't mind following 99.9% of all the laws but this is just ONE law I don't care if I break. OK sorry, I'm done...I wont reply to anything else off topic

[Jahntassa]

I would poo-poo the tire valve light in particular for several reasons.1. The flashing COULD be mistaken for an emergency thing.2. The batteries probably wouldn't last more than a few months3. Very easy to steal...Granted, this isn't my view on all "add-on" lights. I for one wouldn't mind some clear strobes in the fogs and reverse lights, but those're just for show. I'd tie them into the e-brake so they couldn't run unless I was parked. (For giggles.) Underbody kits I don't mind, because you're not likely to see them when they're behind you. Any lights, forward facing, should either be "white" or amber at night. During the day is a different story, because chances are you'll know the car isn't an emergency vehicle.My own opinion. I'm all for fun lights and everything, but there is a level of responsibility to be taken...

[Fialchar]

I agree as far as the tire valve LED lights. I think they're the equivilent of putting on a "The Fast and The Furious" muffler. They're more or less something I laugh at

[AKLGT]

i had some of those tire flies on my tundra. they didn't last very long and they looked rather ghetto imho. i'd give it a no.

[Merzbow]

I gues the only real way to get them to look descent is if you have an 4 wheel drive car and you had enough power to spin the tires constantly so they are moving fast enough to complete the circle Or get some 85 inch spinnerz and tape the flys to the wheel (removed)!!! Now that's ghetto.

[AKLGT]

yes, that goes with my word "podunkt" too... all part of my everyday vocab!

[Fialchar]

Hukt onn fonicks wurkt fur mee.

[Merzbow]

obviously lol