Navigation Disc

[Jahntassa]

Once again, I must dredge up an old topic. Has anyone gotten any info on an updated Nav disc? Or is everyone still moving along with the 2001 data?

[joatmon]

http://www.matrixvibe.net/forums/viewto ... 923summary - MV member bought a used Vibe GT with NAV system but no disk, went to dealer for pricing, answer was:"P/N 88972459 is the 2003 model version that cost $430. P/N 88973143 is the 2004 model version and it's price is $930 and is an updated version. "I don't know if Pontiac will give you the updated disc for free, but that is an expensive upgrade if you have to buy the new one at full price.

[drunkenmaxx]

that is what leads me to call the GPS bullsh*t. you should get the disk for free.

[ragingfish]

Makes me a bit happier about not having sprung for nav...

[Craigmri]

Since I couldnt find the Base 5-speed with Nav I decided I'm going aftermarket for my Nav unit. I remember my old Garmin Emap(handheld) was able to get (base)map updates for free. Charging $500 for something someone already spent $1600 for? Thats weak!

[ag1f]

Now you know that you don't want to buy another GM vehicle!

[Jahntassa]

Actually..my only gripe is it wasn't up to date when I got the car. I think GM should've sprung to get the 2003/2004 disc to the 2003 Nav owners.Most other systems it's about $100 for a CD (of only a region, not the whole US) for an update, so $500 for a DVD isn't completely out of whack, no matter how wrong it seems..

[ag1f]

I don't know what you have been looking at since I have been using Street Atlas USA with GPS for about 8 years. I just wanted something built into the car. Even my Garmin Etrex is more up to date and a lot cheaper. I have used it from the Yucatan to Labrador

[Jahntassa]

Alpine CD nav systems the CDs are $100. Even the Garmin MapSource discs are $100 apiece.Either way, I'm not talking about "portable" systems like the eTrex. Nor am I looking to have a laptop sitting in my passenger seat for daily driving. Getting the stock navigation system is the cheapest INSTALLED option for what you get. Having an indash screen, with six disc CD changer, is not going to cost $1600 aftermarket. The cheapest thus far is the Pioneer AVIC-N1, and that's $2,000 without a changer.Sure there are a lot of cheaper ways to do GPS, such as the USB GPS recievers and software (around $130), but that's much less convenient than the GPS being part of the stereo system, and working with the car.

[ag1f]

I wasn't complaining about the original cost, I am complaining about how poorly the system works. If any other part of the car didn't work then they would pay attention. I wonder if my state has a lemon law?

[Jahntassa]

I'll agree, the address finder isn't always accurate, and the out-of-date is sometimes an issue. But, the ability to get me from one place to another is pretty spot-on. Even in the boondocks. This compared to a Garmin GPS V is pretty similar. As far as the routing, the ability to change the route on the way, and the time estimates, I have no complaints about it..

[ag1f]

I don't know where you live, but much of my travel is in less populated areas. If I look at the emergency GPS position for police or hospital the nearest place it can find is 90 miles north. Columbia and Augusta are both much closer, not to mention Aiken.Recalculating the route if you make a wrong turn can result in taking the long way to get back to where you are. It goes 30 miles out of the way to get me to the Augusta Airport which is only 20 miles away.When I get to Massachusetts next week it will work on practically all the streets, but down here it doesn't work on all the numbered highways.

[ragingfish]

Quote, originally posted by ag1f »I wonder if my state has a lemon law?Which does NOT apply to a poorly designed navigation system (which you're the first I'm hearing has serious complaints about it).The South Carolina lemon law:Quote »[Does not cover] defects which do not substantially impair the vehicle's use, market value or safety. Also not covered are defects caused by the consumer's abuse, neglect or unauthorized alteration of the car, or defects that do not show within the first 12,000 miles or 12 months, whichever occurs first.

[ag1f]

Thanks for the information. Since I selected the car primarily to get a navigation system then I consider that I got a lemon.I was back talking to them within three days and all they did was laugh. What happens when I try and sell the car, am I supposed to lie and say that the navigation system is good?There are lots of other problems with the car, like the steering which is terrible and the braking which doesn't speak well for ABS

[NovaResource2]

The lemon law is only for a problem that can't be repaired. The problem isn't a non-working Nav system, it's probably that you are using an old DVD-ROM. Buy the new version and you should be fine.Quote »There are lots of other problems with the car, like the steering which is terrible and the braking which doesn't speak well for ABSHave you taken the car in for repairs on those areas yet or just the Nav system? My steering and brakes work fine.

[ag1f]

I reported all those problems in the first week and was told that everything was perfect. The dash is even worse, when the sun is shining the dash becomes almost invisible the way everything is hidden.another 100,000 miles and I will look around for a new car.

[NovaResource2]

So if the dealer says the car is perfrct but there is a problem with the steering and brakes when you drive it, I wonder where the problem is.

[ag1f]

I used to get lost a lot back in the 50s back when I had a new car every year, but most of the time I didn't drive on the road. Now that I have driven my two millionth mile I need help in finding my way around. It was really helpful in Ottowa which is a really confusing city. It will help out in New Hampshire next week. Too bad that we can't get a new updated disc.