Vibe Vortec Module??

fieryhill · Post by **fieryhill** » Sat Sep 13, 2003 11:14 am

Does anyone know anything about this? Genuine or genuinely a joke? I know CAI is the way to go for increased horsepower, just wondering if this maybe another option. Considering trying it but of course I'm hesitant. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... gory=33597

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 10:46 am

Hey, if you believe that will help you, I have a bridge to sell you...

cibomatto · Post by **cibomatto** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 12:17 pm

so really the only option to speed up the vibe are the supercharger and CAI... yes?

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 1:13 pm

Well, you can do supercharger, CAI, pulleys, exhaust...Each contributes some extra horses...But the pulleys are being red flagged in the failure of two engines right now, so I would steer cleer of them...

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 1:55 pm

quote:There is no proof the pullies caused the problems. Hence the reason i said red flagged. Synonomous with suspected.

joatmon · Post by **joatmon** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 1:05 am

I see a couple of problems with that item that would make me stay away from it:- It's only being sold on ebay. - The write up says "Point by point air/fuel, ignition advance, transmission and various other tuning points provide performance gains of up to 20 hp." The picture shows a small device that looks like it connects up in line. 4 wires, 2 in , 2 out. Probably a resistor that alters timing or fuel/air mix, same as discussed in http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=4082- The listing includes a really smooth dyno curve for a jetta. It's being sold as "Pontiac Vibe Vortec Module +15hp" Where's the Vibe dyno chart?- If the gains are real, with no adverse impact, then why doesn't every car come with one?On the pulley subtopic, I think that the one discussed in http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=5919 died from general abuse more than any particular mod. Not sure if I'd give the pulleys a flashing red warning, maybe just a yellow.

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 1:11 am

There was a vibe on MO i think that had engine failure, which also had pulleys, which is why we flagged it...but i could be wrong.

joatmon · Post by **joatmon** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 1:59 am

quote:I guess the same reason with an CAI right.. I haven't bought a CAI. Not sure if I will, not sure why I haven't. However, if I did, I'd by an Injen or AEM, probably the new Injen that's designed to fit the base vibe. Those manufacturers have extended marketing presence, and every now and again you'll see one on ebay. They also have published dyno charts for at least a Matrix, if not for a Vibe, which is effectively the same beast. A jetta and a Vibe are pretty different.I have had mixed luck with ebay, and am not about to put some unknown tweak on my Vibe's engine, because I value the car.The technology behind a CAI is pretty well documented, which is different from the ebay mystery module.A CAI alters the sound of the car, Vibers say it makes it louder. Manfacturers probably don't design them in to provide a compromise of power and sound to appeal to the biggest market share. If the module provides low cost 15 HP, there must be a side effect that prevented Toyota from including the minor tweak in the original design, maybe reduced efficiency, increased emissions, who knows?quote:There was a vibe on MO i think that had engine failure, which also had pulleys, which is why we flagged it...but i could be wrongThere was one on matrixvibe.net that was talked about in the genvibe thread I referenced. That owner had the unorthodox pulleys, but his story about when the engine died was either BS or he drove like he was trying to trash his engine. He had a Vibe GT. http://www.matrixvibe.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3629. Don't know if that owner is a genvibe member or not. There was Bocaj77's problems, discussed at http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=4806. I don't remember hearing of one on matrixowners.com.I am not in any way qualified to pass judgement on the unorthodox pulleys. I agree that there is potential for problems, but don't think there's enough evidence for red. Red = danger, yellow = caution. Probably at caution stage, semantics I guess. So, to sum up my opinionsOn fiery hill's question about the ebay item, I agree, stay away from it. On CAI, all reviews love it, Tested technology with lots of great pictures, results, installation walkthroughs, only hard part is deciding which color. On pulleys, too much unknown about risks, more data is needed.On supercharger, a lot of money, and the drop in MPG with requirement for premium fuel make it a mod I would love to have but can not afford.

joatmon · Post by **joatmon** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 2:17 am

I asked that question in one of the multiple supercharger threads, ( http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=5275 ) and Nova's response was "A CAI is much louder than a factory air box. The reason the factory box is restrictive is all the intake noise silencers inside."Makes sense to me, a CAI is louder, and not everyone wants their car to be loud. Also, it's a token thing to change the air filter in the stock air box. Doesn't sound very user friendly to do it with a CAI. maybe the stock air box fits the needs of the general population better, but a CAI is better for the fewer people who want loud power.

joatmon · Post by **joatmon** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 2:29 am

I wouldn't have remembered that the thread was there if I hadn't asked the question earlier. Still took me a while to find it, CAI info in a supercharger thread.

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