Looking at new head unit **UPDATED**

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NeverTwoOld
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Looking at new head unit **UPDATED**

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Just installed the http://www.crutchfield.com/p_113KDCX596 ... -X596.html and couldn't be happier. The sound quality is far above that of the stock unit, radio reception is great, iPad works perfectly but there are still many functions I haven't played around with yet. Installation was straightforward, my daughter and I had no problems at all. I know there are plenty of installation guides on the site so I won't rehash old info but I would be happy to answer any questions folks who are new to this type of installation might have. I'm no expert so I can shed a novice's view just reply here or shoot me a pm.

*I screwed up somehow and the bottom half of the install kit isn't showing up but it is a little cubby hole below the shown head unit that fills the double din opening. Sorry for being terrible at uploading and resizing pics :D
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My '06 AWD vibe currently has the standard factory (non-monsoon) h.u. and I'm looking to replace it. I'm leaning towards this http://www.crutchfield.com/p_113KDCX696 ... ml?tp=5684 and was wondering if anyone has experience with this unit and/or the Crutchfield kit that I would need for the double din opening or should I look elsewhere? At this time I will only be replacing the head unit and am pretty sure I can tackle the job. I've been browsing the site looking for tips and tricks to ease the process but any other help would be appreciated.

Thanks all

**edit** forgot to ask about the crutchfield wiring harness also... good enough or look elsewhere?
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never seen that paricular h/u ,
but i'm sure you'll get hella usage out of the front usb and aux ports.
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The extras they give you at Crutchfield are the same as you would buy in store (just in oem packaging).

That HU looks nice. Does it do variable colour? I know many JVC and some Pioneer units will let you match your interior dash lighting.
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scottstoked wrote:The extras they give you at Crutchfield are the same as you would buy in store (just in oem packaging).

That HU looks nice. Does it do variable colour? I know many JVC and some Pioneer units will let you match your interior dash lighting.
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Thanks for the info on the extras. I didn't seen anything about color matching in the product details and it's been awhile since I've read through all the reviews to see if it's mentioned. I chose this model due to customer feedback, the aux. ports and FM reception. Bluetooth is a "cool factor" for me but I won't live or die by it. Have you had better experience, reliability-wise, with JVC or Pioneer?
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A Psycho Martyr wrote:never seen that paricular h/u ,
but i'm sure you'll get hella usage out of the front usb and aux ports.
I hope so. My daughter was quite happy when I told her about those :D
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Thanks for the info on the extras. I didn't seen anything about color matching in the product details and it's been awhile since I've read through all the reviews to see if it's mentioned. I chose this model due to customer feedback, the aux. ports and FM reception. Bluetooth is a "cool factor" for me but I won't live or die by it. Have you had better experience, reliability-wise, with JVC or Pioneer?[/quote]

My previous unit was a JVC KD-R820BT (USB/BT) which is now in my wife's Dodge Journey. Have never had any issues with it at all. The JVC HU I had before that lasted me seven years (and was still working fine before the car was sent to the wreckers). Both decks have much better FM reception than my current Pioneer 2400bt.

JVC and Kenwood are part of the same company, so I imagine the quality would be roughly equal as well.
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I didn't know JVC and Kenwood were of the same company - thanks for that.
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Just wanted to bump this to the top as I see there are folks looking to do what I just did. **First post is updated with pic and info.*
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It's good to hear that you got it done without any trouble. The installation gear that Crutchfield and similar stores provide makes it way easier than trying to do without. I remember installing a deck in my friend's old Mazda without an adapter harness; joining the correct wires in such a tight space is not fun.

The improvements are very noticeable. When I installed my Kenwood KIV-700, I almost didn't feel like upgrading the speakers. I'm glad that I did but the head unit made enough of an improvement to hold me over for a while. It's something that even the people that just want more features (AUX/USB/Bluetooth) will enjoy.
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LarryKingsShoes wrote:It's good to hear that you got it done without any trouble. The installation gear that Crutchfield and similar stores provide makes it way easier than trying to do without. I remember installing a deck in my friend's old Mazda without an adapter harness; joining the correct wires in such a tight space is not fun.

The improvements are very noticeable. When I installed my Kenwood KIV-700, I almost didn't feel like upgrading the speakers. I'm glad that I did but the head unit made enough of an improvement to hold me over for a while. It's something that even the people that just want more features (AUX/USB/Bluetooth) will enjoy.

Agreed. I hadn't planned on replacing the speakers as they seem to be working just fine but... having heard the improvement from the h.u. alone I can only imagine what a speaker upgrade will do. Now I just have to practice my rationalizations in front of the mirror to be ready to explain to my wife :D
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NeverTwoOld wrote:Agreed. I hadn't planned on replacing the speakers as they seem to be working just fine but... having heard the improvement from the h.u. alone I can only imagine what a speaker upgrade will do. Now I just have to practice my rationalizations in front of the mirror to be ready to explain to my wife :D
Haha, I hear ya. I have a hard time convincing myself that it's worth doing half of the stuff I do. I can't imagine having to convince someone else. ;)

If you do end up replacing the speakers, you should try to hold on to the factory speaker brackets. This is one area where the Crutchfield kits fall short. They are next to useless. I ended up buying some mounts that were modeled after the factory kit because the Crutchfield mounts just weren't doing it for me (thin, flimsy, didn't line up very well). I've seen a lot of people having success with gutting the old speaker and putting in a new one.

If you feel like going with a component set, the Image Dynamics that I have (CTX-65CSor something; my signature has the correct model number) are fantastic for the price. They're pretty deep but they don't interfere with my front windows going down in the least. They won't fit in the factory brackets but it's not too hard to use a rotary tool (we have a Dremel with a sawtooth cutting blade that was quick and easy) to cut out the mount enough to accommodate the width.

Many of us also have come to like the Polk Audio db651s because they're affordable and don't require modification to install. They're a great speaker if you don't want to spend much. I used to have them in my fronts (they're still in my rears). I'm extremely happy with my upgrade to Image Dynamics but the db651s are no slouches. They offer a great price:performance value. They aren't incredibly strong in the lower frequencies so, if you're into that, adding a subwoofer is a good idea. They seemed weaker than the factory speakers in bass but more than made up for it with improved mids and highs. They just benefit from something to reinforce and round out the low end.

You've got to be careful with car audio; it can lead you down a costly path. Between the head unit, speakers, amps, subs, and sound deadening, there will always be something else you want to install. ;) It's a lot of fun, though, so it's hard to complain. It's also worth noting that there are some excellent budget-friendly choices for just about everything so you can end up with a great system at a moderately low cost, should you choose to go all out.
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Great info, thanks! I've read that rivets will need to be drilled out to replace speakers...will that in any way damage/weaken the existing brackets or is there another way to remove the old ones?

**I was actually looking at the polks - "great minds think alike" I guess :D **
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From what I've seen, it shouldn't weaken the bracket. I didn't get a chance to do it on my own (I threw them out before I realized that people were reusing them). It was pretty solid stuff. You may have to get creative with getting the brackets back on after you mount the speakers but it shouldn't be too bad. It wasn't very hard to drill through the skin so if it comes down to it, rotating the bracket and drilling new holes should be straightforward.

There may be a thread or two about this. It's been a while since I looked at it but it looked a lot better than using the thin mounts provided by Crutchfield. I couldn't stand those. The entire installation was a drag because they just weren't up to the task. The reviews for the brackets reflect a similar level of dissent. They're just garbage.

You can't go wrong with the Polks, that's for sure. They're a great budget choice. Hopefully you don't find them to be too weak in the low end. They benefit greatly from a subwoofer in the system. It was hard for me to judge them fairly. I barely ran them without the sub so going from sub on to sub off was probably throwing off my perception.
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Thanks again for the info. Now I'm off to find out what's involved with installing a subwoofer - I just KNEW you people would cost me money :lol:
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I've been trying to install an after market CD player into my 2006 Vibe for a while now but I'm running into problems. I can get power to it when I wire everything up but I get no sound. I have the Monsoon sound so I'm thinking that has something to do with it. Any suggestions with this?
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Hi all I just got a 03 Vibe base. And I'm wondering is the alarm system has anything to do with the HU (except for the blinking light from the HU) ?

That is my main concern about switching to aftermarket HU........
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no it won't... the blinking light is antitheft for the HU only, as far as I could tell... unless your car was actually advertised and proven as having an "alarm system" most cars come with keyless entry, not really alarm... just remote to lock/unlock your doors.
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LarryKingsShoes wrote:From what I've seen, it shouldn't weaken the bracket. I didn't get a chance to do it on my own (I threw them out before I realized that people were reusing them). It was pretty solid stuff. You may have to get creative with getting the brackets back on after you mount the speakers but it shouldn't be too bad. It wasn't very hard to drill through the skin so if it comes down to it, rotating the bracket and drilling new holes should be straightforward.

There may be a thread or two about this. It's been a while since I looked at it but it looked a lot better than using the thin mounts provided by Crutchfield. I couldn't stand those. The entire installation was a drag because they just weren't up to the task. The reviews for the brackets reflect a similar level of dissent. They're just garbage.

You can't go wrong with the Polks, that's for sure. They're a great budget choice. Hopefully you don't find them to be too weak in the low end. They benefit greatly from a subwoofer in the system. It was hard for me to judge them fairly. I barely ran them without the sub so going from sub on to sub off was probably throwing off my perception.
I have Polks all around & yes they are awesome speakers but I did lose bass with them. That was totally solved with sound deadening the doors. Now I have more bass than the stock speaker setup. I am still running the stock M&T unit & it sounds really good. I was REALLY impressed with the bass response after I deadened the doors with 6.5" spakers. I have my eye on a Kenwood as well because it has lots of audio controls. Speaker size setting, bass boost & EQs. I was thinking of getting a compact powered sub but after deadening the doors I probably wont need it. With the bass boost feature on the Kenwwod units I doubt I will need a sub. I cant turn up the radio too loud anyhow, my right ear rings a bit after listening to loud music for a long period of time. Im looking for sound quality over volume. Definitely deaden the doors. More bass & helps with the cabin noise on the highway, if that annoys you.
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