2005 Grand Am!

[fuel4soul]

Here's a sneak peek! Looks sweet!

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[ragingfish]

That doesn't look like a GA.

[fuel4soul]

Well I sure thought so as I got it straight from Edmunds.com Future Vehicles under GRAND AM.http://www.edmunds.com/future/2005/pont ... .future..2.*

[ragingfish]

Hmm....has no Pontiac qualities to it...but you're right, it's from a true source...I stand corrected. My apologies.

[fuel4soul]

Sorry to be rude, but lately I have been getting alot of smart@$$ comments - getting a little sick of it. Probably should have included the link in the original post! I *think* this new GA is on a different based platform also, same from GP Im thinking.

[fuel4soul]

Looks alot more similiar to G6 than I thought!

[ragingfish]

Could be...Reason I said it had no Pontiac qualities is that one thing at least always carries over in every Pontiac design - "cat-eye" style headlamps...and yes, the front of the car is hidden, but I don't see a resemblence...I dunno...I can almost always spot a Pontiac, old or new, from MILES away...but that just didn't shout Pontiac to me.Sorry to sound like an authority, I'm anything but...I just didn't see anything on that car that shouts Pontiac to me...including the wheels even...

[savedbyzero]

what the hell...change the look of the GA? that thing has been changes since it came out! Pontiac just kept throwing on more plastic!looks along the lines of the CTS...or something.

[drunkenmaxx]

quote:Sorry to be rude, but lately I have been getting alot of smart@$$ comments - getting a little sick of it. Probably should have included the link in the original post! I *think* this new GA is on a different based platform also, same from GP Im thinking. get used to it, if you're not 100% perfect, someone is bound to chime in with a cocky know it all reply, trust me. - exaggerated example - "i know everything about the vibe! i know the whole manual. i know everything that has ever been discuessed on genvibe. now that i think of it, i know everything, and you're stupid for not"

[Robert G]

From what I read, the next GA will have a new name and will be similar to the G6 concept. So, that is probably a good picture of it. I believe that Lutz is getting rid of all of the Pontiac cladding. It may be difficult to get used to, but I for one, believe that the G6 concept looked like a new, modern version of a Pontiac.

[mu_ohio]

It's hard to make out, but the Pontiac grill is behind the black cover. The car does have the same looks and lines of the new Grand Prix and a little of the Vibe. I do think it's time for the ugly cladding to go.

[fuel4soul]

You know what the new GA is?? A pontiac badged newly styled Malibu! Compare the headlights! I hate it when they do this! They need to be unique and indepedent and not look sooo close to their cousins...

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[fuel4soul]

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[fuel4soul]

Looks like this but not as long grills maybe? And not aerodynamic body style...

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[fuel4soul]

Back end of GA

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[ragingfish]

quote:what the hell...change the look of the GA? that thing has been changes since it came out! Pontiac just kept throwing on more plastic!looks along the lines of the CTS...or something. I dont' see much plastic on there...just some side spears, that's about it...Keep in mind all the disgusing they do to keep the true design under wraps...

[fuel4soul]

Yup, They'll get our attention on this one and throw out something different!

[savedbyzero]

Sorry, I misspelled some stuff in the other post (dang beer)! What I meant to say is that Pontiac hasn't changed anything about the GA until now. They've only added plastic. Must be a GM thing. Ex: Aztec, Avalanche, Camaro, Sunfire, etc.The new GA isn't my taste, but at least it's TOTALLY redesigned!

[baltimore17]

Go take a look (the pics gotta be out there somewhere on the web) at a late-'60s Chevy Malibu, Pontiac LeMans, Olds Cutlass and Buick Skylark. It's funny how they all seemed to have distinctive styling at the time, but are so very similar on things like the C pillar and beltline. So, GM (and all the rest) have been doing variations on a common platform for decades. Sometimes they do a good job, sometimes the clone shows through.Anyway, is this a disguised Grand Am? If you look at the lower edge of the headlights, the downward-towards-the-center-of-the-car character line looks like it would continue (into the black void) to define a lower edge to a Pontiac-style grill opening, almost identical to the Vibe's. The smooth sides look like several of Pontiac's recent concept cars and, although bland, are handsome enough when seen from the right angle. Such a grill, and the lack of the new Malibu's fender lines, should set this one apart (at least as well as GM did in the '60s).

[yank dini]

I think I saw it on the road last week. Covered up of course. The area that I live in is wall to wall GM workers

[mu_ohio]

Actually it looks like the back of a Neon almost.

[Sputnik]

quote:Back end of GALooks like a Ford Taurus rear end.. I thought it looked more like the newer Neon back ends... the kind that make me think its grinning at me.

[Sputnik]

LOL I should really finish reading a thread before posting.

[ragingfish]

quote:but are so very similar on things like the C pillar and beltline.Ok, which is the C pillar? Is that the one that goes down from the roof to the trunk area?

[NovaResource]

quote:Ok, which is the C pillar? Is that the one that goes down from the roof to the trunk area?Yes. You letter the pillars from front to back. The windshield pillar is always the "A" pillar. If the car is a 4 door, the post between the doors is the "B" pillar. Also, a 2-door sedan (not a hardtop) has a "B" pillar behind the door. On a 2-door coupe (hardtop), the post from the rear of the roof to the trunk is the "B" pillar. On a 4-door or a 2-door sedan, it's the "C" pillar.

[ragingfish]

What's a 2-door sedan? Isn't that like an oxy moron?

[NovaResource]

Many moons ago, the term coupe and sedan meant different things. A coupe was 2-door hardtop. That is a car with no window frames on the doors and no post between the door and rear quarter windows. A sedan was a car with door window frames and a post between the front and rear windows. These were also called "post" cars.Here are some Nova pics to help. Both are 1966 Novas:2-door coupe:2-door sedan:Notice the different roofline, rear quarter windows and the window frame on the door of the sedan.