Guaging interest on a possible group buy for a VIBE Front Plate - feeler ONLY - UPDATE with DESIGN

98ex · Post by **98ex** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:01 am

Ok, I know a lot of people here sometimes visit matrixowners.com. Well currently over at MO.com there is a "groupbuy" for a Matrix front plate. Now the design of this new plate is different from the one pictured below, but you get the idea. Here is what I am trying to do. I am currently talking to a business that can LASER engrave logos into steel plates. This is different from the previous plates created because all the previous ones have been punched out of steel, which requires tooling of machines and is a straight through cut. The ones I am looking at will be engraved into the steel (which would allow you to paint the flat plate part one color, and the letters a different color) I already have plans on creating a Matrix plate using the stock Matrix emblem design. I most likely will be sending them the actual emblem, and then having the dimensions of the plate created around that. I am going to order a prototype of the Matrix plate once I have all the dimensions set.Here is what I am asking, IF I were to create a Vibe front plate, how many would be interested? Of course the same attention to detail would be used. I also want to know how many would like to use the stock Vibe emblem design for the plate or go with a different lettering design?Again, nothing is final on either plate because this is all still in the preliminary stages. I am gathering interest first. Pic of "original plate design"

northvibe · Post by **northvibe** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:07 am

Do these fit on the stock license plate holes? I didnt relocate my license plate so mine would need to fit over it....

98ex · Post by **98ex** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:11 am

Quote, originally posted by northvibe »Do these fit on the stock license plate holes? I didnt relocate my license plate so mine would need to fit over it....Yes, the plate will use the existing mounting holes. Before anything is finalized I would meet with a local Vibe owner to ensure that the mounting distance for the holder is the same as the Matrix. This is why I am creating a Matrix plate is because on the matrix(not sure of the vibe) holes had to be drilled into the bumper to mount the front plate holder. So if you take off the front plate holder, it looks ugly with two holes(in my case 4 cause the douche bag that owned the car before me used the wrong type of screws for the actual plate and created a couple of extra holes)

northvibe · Post by **northvibe** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:15 am

DANG after looking at your plate...I just realized..that that plate may cover my state up? dang i bet thats illegal here...laaammmee I wonder how many vibe owners have either relocated their front plate or dont have any. I know the WI people dont need front plates. So there should be some people here that would have internet.

98ex · Post by **98ex** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:42 am

Quote, originally posted by northvibe »DANG after looking at your plate...I just realized..that that plate may cover my state up? dang i bet thats illegal here...laaammmee I wonder how many vibe owners have either relocated their front plate or dont have any. I know the WI people dont need front plates. So there should be some people here that would have internet.That is not my plate, that Matrix plate ont he front bumper was apparantly the original design from back in 04 when it was first created. The palte will be designed and intended to cover the same area, and your front plate would need to be relocated. The person who did it is no longer on MO.com so unable to get his input.Some states do require you to have a front liscense plate, some are optional, and some don't have to.If you are not sure if your state needs a front plate, go herehttp://www.mrtraffic.com/frontplate.htmIf your state needs the front, then your front plate will have to be relocated if you want Vibe Plate or you can use the plate in another location.

Sublimewind · Post by **Sublimewind** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:50 am

Michigan doesn't require it, in fact you only get ONE plate when you register...I just got my Vibe from NY so i may be interested in this... What do you thing the cost would come out to?

98ex · Post by **98ex** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:02 am

not sure on cost yet. Once I order my prototype on my Matrix plate I will know more. I should be ready to order the prototype by early next week(if all goes well with gathering of the dimensions) Once I get the company the specs, they can then quote me a price.

northvibe · Post by **northvibe** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:10 am

98ex - Although I wont be ordering one, thanks for posting this over here! GV doesnt get much for mods and GB's so this is a nice thing for you to do

breezd · Post by **breezd** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:44 am

Quote, originally posted by northvibe »I know the WI people dont need front plates. This isn't true... TRUST ME, I speak from experience... WI does require front plates...

northvibe · Post by **northvibe** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:55 am

Quote, originally posted by breezd »This isn't true... TRUST ME, I speak from experience... WI does require front plates...Well I heard on the radio that they wanted it changed, but the MN trooper didnt know if it had gone through. I do know a while ago they didnt need them right?

98ex · Post by **98ex** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:08 am

Quote, originally posted by northvibe »98ex - Although I wont be ordering one, thanks for posting this over here! GV doesnt get much for mods and GB's so this is a nice thing for you to do No problem, I wanted to make sure that the Vibe was included in this. I mena after all, you guys are the red headed step child hehehehe

northvibe · Post by **northvibe** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:12 am

Quote, originally posted by 98ex »No problem, I wanted to make sure that the Vibe was included in this. I mena after all, you guys are the red headed step child hehehehe hahha as this is very true...I think I might shave all the hair off my step child aka debadge so no one will know what it is

breezd · Post by **breezd** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:51 am

Quote, originally posted by northvibe »Well I heard on the radio that they wanted it changed, but the MN trooper didnt know if it had gone through. I do know a while ago they didnt need them right?hmm... not sure... I know i got a fix-it ticket for it earlier this year... I also know that my mother got pulled over a while back for it, I'd say in the late 90's. Back on the subject, I can't wait to see a finished product for the Vibes... is there a chance that there will be ones that say "Vibe GT" as well or is it just gonna be "Vibe"?And as for it covering up stuff on the plates, I don't see it being illegal as long as the plate number isn't covered (on the front at least). I dont see it making a difference if the state is covered on the front.

98ex · Post by **98ex** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:42 am

Quote, originally posted by breezd »hmm... not sure... I know i got a fix-it ticket for it earlier this year... I also know that my mother got pulled over a while back for it, I'd say in the late 90's. Back on the subject, I can't wait to see a finished product for the Vibes... is there a chance that there will be ones that say "Vibe GT" as well or is it just gonna be "Vibe"?And as for it covering up stuff on the plates, I don't see it being illegal as long as the plate number isn't covered (on the front at least). I dont see it making a difference if the state is covered on the front. Well not sure about the difference from Vibe to Vibe GT. I might just have to look for the dimensions and specs for the Vibe logo and order a prototype for it as well (less lettering would mean less money) I will post up updates once I have them.

Herb · Post by **Herb** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:38 am

I might be interested in a Vibe GT version

damronjr · Post by **damronjr** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:08 pm

Interested. Want to hear and see more.

98ex · Post by **98ex** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:14 pm

Ok apparently my car is ready for pick up so I might be moving forward sooner - have tow ait for insurance company to pay for repairs first though.

98ex · Post by **98ex** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:58 am

Ok everyone, I got the design for the Matrix done and sent to the company. Waiting on their response. here is a sneak peak of what it will look like (this is a rough design)

98ex · Post by **98ex** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:09 am

Does anyone have a pic like the one above of the VIBE logo along with length and height dimensions?

98ex · Post by **98ex** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:33 am

No response yet from company, sent info to several other companies as well to price match.

98ex · Post by **98ex** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:48 pm

Ok guys, I got a reply from another company, they sent two options, one is the actual engraving Or the dark markingThey are sending me the price quote later today or tomorrow. I have to send them a monochromatic bitmap of my image, so all you with photoshop, I need your help. Can I have someone make the graphic monochromatic for me(I am limited at work in regards to photo programs). Here is a .eps format of the file, along with the .jpeg. The company is asking for it to be a monochromatic bitmapHere is the image.jpghttp://i74.photobucket.com/alb...x.jpgor .eps filehttp://matrixowners.com/index....=2763

LedFootin · Post by **LedFootin** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:47 am

Quote, originally posted by Sublimewind »Michigan doesn't require it, in fact you only get ONE plate when you register...I just got my Vibe from NY so i may be interested in this... What do you thing the cost would come out to? I picked my Vibe up in Chi Town, the first thing i dis was to take off the front plate holder. Problem was the two gaping holes in the front facia from the sheetmetal screws they use to mount the thing. My wife did an internet search, just types in bumper plugs. Up popps a sit called Bumper Pluges.com. So I got a set ($25 Outch, just a set of painted automotive connectors) look pritty nice though.

98ex · Post by **98ex** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:53 am

Quote, originally posted by LedFootinâ€™ »I picked my Vibe up in Chi Town, the first thing i dis was to take off the front plate holder. Problem was the two gaping holes in the front facia from the sheetmetal screws they use to mount the thing. My wife did an internet search, just types in bumper plugs. Up popps a sit called Bumper Pluges.com. So I got a set ($25 Outch, just a set of painted automotive connectors) look pritty nice though.Hmm took a look at them, and they even carry the keyhole covers as well. It is a good alternative for those with only 2 holes in there bumpers.

Raivis · Post by **Raivis** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:54 am

i would be interested in a plate

98ex · Post by **98ex** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:27 am

Ok I got a quote back from the company. due to the size of the Matrix Logo(length particularly) cost is more for the prototypeOk got a quote back on engraving and marking, If this happens, I would have to wait until my settlement claim on my accident is done(about 2-3 months away) The prototype is expensive since they are setting up the parameters for engraving/marking(prototype is $100, still waiting on other quotes to return). If this is the best quote, the prototype price will be coming out of my pocket so we can get it started, but like I said before, I will need to wait until I have the funds for this. Laser marking and engraving are going to be the same price(engraving is a light engraving). But after the parameters are set, if I go with this company, ordering 25 items is $7.00 a piece, and 50 items is $6.50 a piece (this does not include their shipping cost yet) - not much of a difference in price so a small groupbuy is definately not out of the question. The great thing is that they can do the stock Matrix logo.I will keep everyone posted on this. This is not going to die, just waiting on other quotes and for funds to present themselves.I recieved a second quote shortly after this one from another company which I am not going to post(suffice to say it was over 7 times more for just the prototype.)

98ex · Post by **98ex** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:53 am

Ok after reviewing all my options and doing some more research, it looks like Laser Marking is going to be the way to go(it is cheaper in most cases) I have found a local shop to me(most of the ones I am finding are in California) which I have sent the information to. Hpefully their quote will be better than most others(this place does laser marking and etching for name plates - it is the comapny that my company uses for our name plates) so I might get a better deal.

Sublimewind · Post by **Sublimewind** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:02 am

Any thoughts of having them water-jeted? i would think a water-jeted piece, plus a little polishing would suffice... If i bought one i would paint it black anyway... Any thoughts on it though?? Was it ever a consideration?Wire EDM machining might be another idea.... Costs, costs i know....

98ex · Post by **98ex** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:23 am

Quote, originally posted by Sublimewind »Any thoughts of having them water-jeted? i would think a water-jeted piece, plus a little polishing would suffice... If i bought one i would paint it black anyway... Any thoughts on it though?? Was it ever a consideration?Wire EDM machining might be another idea.... Costs, costs i know.... The problem with water jetting is that it will cut the piece out and there would be no way of making sure the inner parts of the letters are there.

Sublimewind · Post by **Sublimewind** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:27 am

This is true, unless a line from the outside to the inside was left in place... holding it there... I wonder if the Wire EDM would work the same... I do see your point though... I didn't think of that...

98ex · Post by **98ex** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:49 am

Update on this. One of the companies that I am working on submitted to me a new design. It looks pretty good. I am waiting on aprice quote from themFull sizehttp://aycu02.webshots.com/ima...s.jpg

98ex · Post by **98ex** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:11 am

Ok everyone, I have ordered the prototype of my Matrix plate. It will take 7-10 business day production time. In the mean time, I wanted to post this to see if there is interest in the plate.There is another Matrix plate that is currently being sold. Mine has a different redesign. I am fronting the money for the prototype.Here are the details:Here is what the plate will look like - This plate will use the stock Matrix logo(modified slightly so that the design can be cut)It will be brushed stainless steel finishThese plates will be 16 guage thick (.060 inches or 1.524 millimeter thick), and are 12 inches long and 2 inches wide with rounded ends very similar to the original plate. The plates are NOT predrilled for the mounting holes (this was done to allow for a more universal use of the plate)These are NOT CNC machined, FlowJet, or Stamped. These pieces are all Laser cut which will ensure a precise and clean cut.Before I put up the money for a group buy, we would need a minimum of 25 people to commit.So, I will not be in the group buy as I am ordering the first one. Also this will probably be a one run item, which means that once we hit the 25 mark, I will allow about a week or so roughly before closing the deal.I did this design because the current production design does not meet my needs (I have more than 2 holes in my front bumper and needed something to cover up the extra holes) Also big thing, I measured the battery tie down that came stock. The holes on it are 10 and 3/8 inches apart. This means that since the holes are not predrilled, you will be able to make this into a battery tie down.So that being said I would need at the minimum 25 people. Once the first 25 state they will go for it, I will pay the Groupbuy fee and make it official.This is only for the Matrix plate right now. As for a Vibe plate, I can talk to the company about creating one, but someone is going to have to step up for the prototype funds (mine is about $50) and we would need to guage interest for a group buy. Each Matrix plate will be $8.42 for the first 25(does not include shipping charges from company to me and from me to buyer)

northvibe · Post by **northvibe** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:12 am

OH id be up for a battery tie down with VIBE in it or something.

kevera · Post by **kevera** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:41 am

I'm interested in a Vibe one for the battery.

98ex · Post by **98ex** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:14 pm

Ok once I complete the Matrix plate, I will switch focus to the Vibe. Someone will however like I said have to step up and be willing to pay for the prototype so we are sure everyone gets something they like.If someone has the Vibe logo(from the hatch) or a similar logo, or want to come up with a logo, please post it up. Make sure that the logo can fit centered on a 12" long plate that is 2" wide. The total length of the logo cannot be more than 9 and 3/4 inches long. If you can give the logo in monochrome where the plate is black and the logo white.

Raivis · Post by **Raivis** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:11 am

i may buy two if the vibe one is made!

Guaging interest on a possible group buy for a VIBE Front Plate - feeler ONLY - UPDATE with DESIGN

Guaging interest on a possible group buy for a VIBE Front Plate - feeler ONLY - UPDATE with DESIGN

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