need help!!!!! k and n cai install - update

mr_miyagi · Post by **mr_miyagi** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:31 am

Hey guys,I just got the K & N 69-8601 typhoon, and am now stuck at how to install it. there is a big tube that i have no idea what to do with, and 3 things to plug into with only 2 hoses. Anyone know of a thread on here that helps with this or anyone know what to do.....thanks.edit - 2006 AWD

CAN-AWD-VIBE · Post by **CAN-AWD-VIBE** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:45 am

thats a short ram intake not cold air intake... but thats ok. Tell me you tried using the instructions.http://www.kandn.com/instructions/69-8601.pdfthose are about as good as this gets... the ones for the Injen intake were half as good as that. Read over them again, make sure you dont skip steps and be certian about the vacuum line routing, it screwed me up for a few days.and Im not sure about this "big tube" thing... either that is the intake itself or one of the rubber vac lines that go to the vsv.

mr_miyagi · Post by **mr_miyagi** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:09 am

I did use the k&N instructions. but nothing. there is a large rubber hose that came from the original tube to the upper manifold. If this is suppose to be blocked by a plug i didn't get one in the kit. also the plug i did get in the kit is to small for what it is suppose to block off. I am going to CT to get a 't' junction and then going to modify to the vacuum thing. I just need to know what rubber tube goes where. like the one at the fire wall goes to the one that is at 90 degrees or the one that is straight.

Raven · Post by **Raven** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 6:01 am

By the sounds of it, you shouldn't be doing this install. There are a lot of chances for error and your car will not run or run like crap and the CEL will come on. Have it installed by a shop. It's a simple 30 minute job and won't cost much.

CAN-AWD-VIBE · Post by **CAN-AWD-VIBE** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 9:06 am

this is a pic i used to clear mine up... its huge and shows you the 3 lines connected in the correct placement. This was for a TRD cold air set up... it also worked for my Injen CAI. I'm not sure what the t fitting would before all of my hoses had a place to go without any tees. Just look at this pic and try to get the green fitting the sorta S-shaped hose and the thick wrapped hose all in the right spots.

mr_miyagi · Post by **mr_miyagi** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:29 am

Sunny, no love. no hints or tips to figure things out. CAN-AWD, thanx man. That pick helped out a bit, but still wondering what to do with the upper manifold tube. I don't recall that connector in the engine bay.I have managed to fix it up via Home Depot and CDN tire parts. less than 10$ of parts and she seems to be running fine. we shall see tommorrow if she throws any codes for the test run.

Raven · Post by **Raven** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 1:48 pm

Sorry Dude, it just sounded like you were struggling. I'm glad you got it sorted out, you're going to love the sound.

VforVIBE · Post by **VforVIBE** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:01 am

good luck, when I put mine in there was not K&N for '06s, that might be why you are had problems.I got some pics on my Car Domain page (see sig) I think it's what you got.You will end up having a tube that goes no place. Where you see the pluged tube (in 1st pic), get a small intake from any car parts store (in 2nd pic)

mr_miyagi · Post by **mr_miyagi** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:56 am

Update. No codes/lights flashed up on the dash after a 5-10min run, and a 30min idle. My 'fix' basically mimicked the stock set up (i'll try to get pics up soon).V- I was thinking your way, pluging up the 3/4 tube, along with the little thing under the engine cover that went to the vacuum switch, but plugging the vent to the upper manifold just didn't seem kind to her (unless someone can state otherwise, ie. GM/Toyoda did it for confusion, and it is not imparitive that air get there.)As i said above I mimicked the stock setup. What i did was took a 3/4 to a 5/8 transition plug with 5/8 rad (1ft) hose (little elbow grease and a heat gun to get the hose on the plug), and connected it to the the little outlet on the pipe (like the stock) with a hose clamp. Then took the original tube the ran from under the engine cover to its spot on the vacuum switch, along with the tube running from the firewall.*I think i got an out of date kit from the supplier, i even email k&nand they gave me the same part number.*pics will be up soon.

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mr_miyagi · Post by **mr_miyagi** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:27 am

Hey guys, sorry to bring this back up again, but it's been 2 weeks with the K&N and now there is an engine code light. I took off the (-ve) battery terminal for 15-30 min, Cleaned the Air sensor, and Re-tightened everything. The light came back on after about 4 days.Any suggestions on trouble shooting this matter?

VforVIBE · Post by **VforVIBE** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:30 am

is it revving at idle?

shane_c · Post by **shane_c** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:47 am

Quote, originally posted by VforVIBE »good luck, when I put mine in there was not K&N for '06s, that might be why you are had problems.I got some pics on my Car Domain page (see sig) I think it's what you got.You will end up having a tube that goes no place. Where you see the pluged tube (in 1st pic), get a small intake from any car parts store (in 2nd pic)In your first pic, For my '06, when I installed my cosmo I removed the plastic intake cover on top of the engine, removed that big hose that seems to not connect to anything, and ran the 15mm hose that came with it from the SR intake to the valve cover on the top of the engine. No CEL's for me.

kevera · Post by **kevera** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:16 am

Now daniel-san,listen to the master shane-c.He give you good advice.Just take off the rinky-dink adaptors-whatever, and start over.Follow what the master says to you.Use the "search" button for 06 cai install.

VforVIBE · Post by **VforVIBE** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:47 am

Quote, originally posted by shane_c »In your first pic, For my '06, when I installed my cosmo I removed the plastic intake cover on top of the engine, removed that big hose that seems to not connect to anything, and ran the 15mm house that came with it from the SR intake to the valve cover on the top of the engine. No CEL's for me. was the cosmo made for the 06?

shane_c · Post by **shane_c** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:23 am

Quote, originally posted by VforVIBE »was the cosmo made for the 06?Yes.

VforVIBE · Post by **VforVIBE** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:26 am

Quote, originally posted by shane_c »Yes.'cause the K&N wasn'tis this unplugged on yours?

shane_c · Post by **shane_c** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:44 am

Don't believe my intake has that one. The one I'm referring to is up by the sleeve where it attaches to the throttle body.

VforVIBE · Post by **VforVIBE** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:51 am

This is why the K&N is a pain in the (removed) for the 05 and 06, it was only meant for the 03 and 04.

shane_c · Post by **shane_c** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:18 am

so why not get the cosmo?

VforVIBE · Post by **VforVIBE** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:22 am

Quote, originally posted by shane_c »so why not get the cosmo?for me, my dad got the K&N before we got the car we just thought it would fit, because, how different could they be from year to year, right? that and that's what we always used in the other cars.

mr_miyagi · Post by **mr_miyagi** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:32 pm

Quote, originally posted by VforVIBE »'cause the K&N wasn'tis this unplugged on yours?V - the little outlet you have highlighted (nice photo shop work BTW), that is what i have running to the upper intake manifold/Crankcase breather (mimicked stock).If you look closely at the left hand side of the picture (how do you get it to post like you have, without having to attach a file), I managed to leave the engine out of it, but you can see the large hose running from the upper manifold to the little nub that VforVibe has highlighted in his pic (not shown in my pic). But you can see I have reduced it to a smaller hose.The fender wall vacuum hose (near the brake fluid reservoir), I used the inline hose connector (included in the kit), added the extra length to get the tube to the vacuum relay/switch/ sensor, and it's connected to the 'L' or 90*.

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VforVIBE · Post by **VforVIBE** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:31 pm

Quote, originally posted by mr_miyagi »V - the little outlet you have highlighted (nice photo shop work BTW), that is what i have running to the upper intake manifold/Crankcase breather (mimicked stock).That little hose is your problem, it shouldn't be hooked up to anything.Quote, originally posted by mr_miyagi »If you look closely at the left hand side of the picture , I managed to leave the engine out of it, but you can see the large hose running from the upper manifold to the little nub that VforVibe has highlighted in his pic (not shown in my pic). But you can see I have reduced it to a smaller hose.the nub coming out of the engine shouldn't be connected to anything and you will want to get a small air filter on it, you can get one from any car parts store.Quote, originally posted by mr_miyagi »(how do you get it to post like you have, without having to attach a file)you want to get a Photobucket account and paste the URL inside the symbols [IMG][/IMG]Quote, originally posted by mr_miyagi »The fender wall vacuum hose (near the brake fluid reservoir), I used the inline hose connector (included in the kit), added the extra length to get the tube to the vacuum relay/switch/ sensor, and it's connected to the 'L' or 90*.don't connect the small outlet from the K&N or the nub from the engine.I hope these help

shane_c · Post by **shane_c** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:51 pm

If VforVibe doesn't have any CEL's then I'd try to follow his instructions and see what happens. As can be seen on the Cosmo site, for the DBW Vibes the hose from under the engine cover connects to the intake http://cosmoracing.com/product...=1315

VforVIBE · Post by **VforVIBE** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:58 pm

Quote, originally posted by shane_c »If VforVibe doesn't have any CEL's then I'd try to follow his instructions and see what happens. As can be seen on the Cosmo site, for the DBW Vibes the hose from under the engine cover connects to the intake http://cosmoracing.com/product...=1315<cough> Her! <cough> <chough> I don't know anything about the cosmo, so if it's working for you, I wouldn't change it.

shane_c · Post by **shane_c** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:33 am

Ooops!

VforVIBE · Post by **VforVIBE** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:59 pm

Quote, originally posted by shane_c »Ooops! scary ain't it?

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:12 pm

Dude, i can't believe you got as far as you did with that kind of install.If you're finding yourself having to be creative with auto parts and home store parts, something is wrong.If the intake doesn't match the instructions, call the manufacturer. Don't get creative. Undo that disaster of an install and get it done right!

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