Oil cooler??

[joholste]

Does anyone make an oil cooler and mount for the vibe??

[joholste]

alright well no one answered me the first time i asked about this and i wondered if anyone had one made or if they knew of one that could be purchased.

[djb383]

Engine or transmission?

[joholste]

i'm looking for an engine oil cooler

[djb383]

Have you tried http://www.perma-cool.com/Catalog/Contents.html?

[NUBlackshirts]

Did you ever get the oil cooler?

[joholste]

no i never did pick one up.

[northvibe]

anyone get a engine oil cooler?

[jasonvibe]

I will say from my experiences. MOST(not all) oil coolers actually reduce maximum available pressure. Meaning they are restrictive. But they do cool the oil enough to help keep pressures up during "normal" running. The cooler's inlet/outlets must be matched to the actual flow potential of the engine. This is the trick....Meaning do you run 1/2", 5/8" hose or bigger? Remember the hose has to match the inlet/outlets of the cooler. When everything matches.I.E.engine, cooler, hose....there is no restriction....Do you like to gamble???

[NUBlackshirts]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Lotus run 2 oil coolers on the 2ZZ motor? I would think that it would be safe to run one at least on our motors.

[northvibe]

you can get the oil coolers for tranny, engine and power steering if you want. I would think running one for the engine would help a lot. TRD makes a engine oil cooler, but im not sure how it works as its not a "radiator" type cooler its like a cup thing....

[binary]

I guess I'm kind of wondering why you'd need one?I would imagine a lot of stop and go traffic that doesn't generate a lot of air flow under the oil pan, or if you're in a hot climate.I don't think many of the coolers have thermostats to prevent running your cold engine oil through the coils in the middle of winter - do they?

[NUBlackshirts]

Quote, originally posted by binary »I guess I'm kind of wondering why you'd need one?I don't think many of the coolers have thermostats to prevent running your cold engine oil through the coils in the middle of winter - do they? I know that enigne oil is more efficient at protecting your motor within a certain temp range. I believe it is because the oil tends to break down faster at higher temps. If you cool the oil, it can protect better for a longer period of time. Also, only a certain percentage of your motor is cooled via the coolant. Cooling the oil helps the motor to run cooler thus increasing efficiency and power.Not sure how many oil cooler kits include a thermostat, but I know you can buy separate thermostats that only allow the oil to flow to the cooler once temps hit 180 degrees or so.Have been thinking about getting one for awhile, but wanted to do suspension mods first. Got that done so may try the oil cooler soon.As always, the info I just spewed is off the top of my head and could be WAY WRONG. So feel free to correct me.

[MarkM04]

You don't. The only reason some high performance cars run them, is for prolonged high rpm engine use. Like open road racing.Some large trucks use them, for towing reasons, which obviously puts more stress on an engine. Cool oil isn't necisarily better. Oil needs to be hot, to burn of condensation. Todays oil will peform just fine without an oil cooler.

[northvibe]

if you use the plate oil coolers they regulate how much fluid is flowing through them by some pressure/temp thing (like the tranny cooler from B&M i got) bluecrush has one just like mine. When the fluid is cold it will flow just through part of it and once it warms up it will flow through the whole cooler.For our engines Im thinking the engine oil cooler wouldnt really be needed unless your towing a lot and or running the car for really long periods of time. The biggest issue ive read about our cars is that cornering over 1g the oil pump cant pick up any oil from the pan and so the engine spins a bearing. I think the best way would be to get a baffeled oil pan and/or a high velocity oil pump or new gear for the current one. With the baffeled oil pan from MWR its also bigger so it can hold more oil and thus being able to cool more oil.

[BlueCrush]

Yes, it is a low pressure drop cooler. I have the Tru-Cool LPD 5-3/4"x11" model.

[AJ_'04 Vibe]

There was a guy who told me they make oil that's more stable than regular oil and doesn't break down until very high temperatures.I think he called it synthetic?Much easier to deal with than an oil cooler. Besides, I doubt you'll need an oil cooler.The International Lubricant Standardization and Approval Committee (ILSAC) also has standards for motor oil. Their latest standard, GF-4[2] was approved in 2004. A key test is the Sequence IIIG [3] , which involves running a 3.8L, GM 3.8L V-6 at 125 horsepower (60% throttle), 3600 rpm, and 150°C oil temperature for 100 hours. These are much more severe conditions than any passenger car would see. Street autos typically average a few dozen horsepower and 80°C. The IIIG test is about 50% more difficult [4] than the previous IIIF test, used in GF-3 and API SL oils.

[northvibe]

well if you FI your car then this might be a good idea, if you boost a lot WI might not be enough to keep the engine cool, specially if its super tuned The guys that were taking the trd SC and putting bigger screw things in it by boring in side out said they used a oil cooler for the engine.