Plug s, Installing Ppi Coax

shocker sf · Post by **shocker sf** » Wed May 19, 2004 1:13 am

ok i have a pair of ppi 6" coax for the front doors and a pair of 5" for the rear, I want to install them but i dont want to cut apart the factory door plug harness .Does any one know where i can get plugs that will hook on to my ppi's so i can plug them in just like the factory ones ??Ive seen them in crutchfield but crutchfield wont sell them seperate and they wont give me anykind of info because i dident buy the speakers from them.. Also do you think the plugs would be Pontiac Or Toyota ??

Jahntassa · Post by **Jahntassa** » Wed May 19, 2004 5:29 am

Circuit City - ToyotaIf they question you, tell them to look in the Blue harness book, it's correct in there.

shocker sf · Post by **shocker sf** » Wed May 26, 2004 10:29 pm

Alright Yo i went to CC down the road from me and they said they make up their own harnesses and wouldent help me any more so i went over to tweeters and they helped me out but they dont carry plughs like that at all, So now im in need of thr color codes for the wires for all the doors.. If not they told me how to check the ploarity with a AA battery..

Jahntassa · Post by **Jahntassa** » Wed May 26, 2004 11:31 pm

Make their own harnesses? That's crap. They should have the full Metra line.Also, NEVER use a battery to test any electrical wiring in the car. I've heard way too many times of people setting off their airbags by using a AA or 9v battery behind the dash. ONLY use a digital multimeter when you're doing stuff like that.Potentially, it doesn't matter which way you connect them, as long as they're all connected the same way. So as you wire them up, look at the connector for the stock speaker, as you're viewing it head on, use the wire on the right for positive. Have the clasp facing upwards. As long as you keep the orientation the same for all the speakers, you won't have any phase problems.

HamiltonAudio · Post by **HamiltonAudio** » Sun May 30, 2004 9:04 am

Quote, originally posted by Jahntassa »Make their own harnesses? That's crap. They should have the full Metra line.I'm not sure I know of too many shops that carry all the different speaker integration harnesses. I too make my own Quote, originally posted by Jahntassa »Also, NEVER use a battery to test any electrical wiring in the car. I've heard way too many times of people setting off their airbags by using a AA or 9v battery behind the dash. ONLY use a digital multimeter when you're doing stuff like that.VERY VERY good advice sir. But when you're dealing with speakers, they are an inductive load on the circuit they're on already. All you're doing is duplicating a very weak signal that they would deal with normally. In ALL (I mean ALL) other instances, you are 100% correct. DMM or nothing...test lights scare me! Quote, originally posted by Jahntassa »Potentially, it doesn't matter which way you connect them, as long as they're all connected the same way. So as you wire them up, look at the connector for the stock speaker, as you're viewing it head on, use the wire on the right for positive. Have the clasp facing upwards. As long as you keep the orientation the same for all the speakers, you won't have any phase problems.Here is where I'm going to disagree with you While you are correct that as long as ALL the speakers are oriented in the same direction there will be no cancellation, there IS a difference. All speakers will behave differently when driven out of phase (wires reversed). I've seen plenty of people listenting to systems badly out of phase, and love it!! But IMHO, its worth it to take that AA battery and the extra 30 sec to determine the positive lead and wire it correctly, thats all....great questions on this forum!! you guys sure are active with your vibes!! b

Jahntassa · Post by **Jahntassa** » Sun May 30, 2004 11:33 am

Quote, originally posted by HamiltonAudio »I'm not sure I know of too many shops that carry all the different speaker integration harnesses. I too make my own EVERY Circuit City carries a full line of harnesses. The harnesses for our vehicles should indeed be in stock (or special order items) for any CC store. I know this, because I work there.Quote »VERY VERY good advice sir. But when you're dealing with speakers, they are an inductive load on the circuit they're on already. All you're doing is duplicating a very weak signal that they would deal with normally. In ALL (I mean ALL) other instances, you are 100% correct. DMM or nothing...test lights scare me! True, if you're testing a speaker where you can visibly see that the speaker wires are going only to that speaker. In newer cars, where there could be an amplifier, or god forbid the SRS system near the back of a radio (see most newer GM vehicles), using the AA is dangerous.For testing a speaker where you know the wiring is going nowhere but the speaker, yes, I'll agree, the batt is a simple, easy way to test. But I would never use it behind a dashboard..

Fialchar · Post by **Fialchar** » Sun May 30, 2004 12:11 pm

So as long as the speakers are all hooked up the same way, the speakers won't be out of phase even if the polarities are reversed on them? I'm not disagreeing, just asking. If so it's news to me

wicked1981 · Post by **wicked1981** » Sun May 30, 2004 12:19 pm

I cant find it right now but I was looking at stuff on this site and I saw a connector that you an use for aftermarket speakers so you dont have to cut the wires. I think it was this site.http://www.rockauto.com/

Jahntassa · Post by **Jahntassa** » Sun May 30, 2004 1:49 pm

Fialchar - Technically, if it's phase reversed, the speakers aren't working to their full potential. It's not right, but it'll work. The layperson wouldn't notice if it was reversed, but you'd notice it out of phase (which is what happens when you have one speaker that's reversed)Wicked - Metra makes those as well. The -techical- term is "speaker harness" I believe the harnesses used in the Vibe are a Toyota harness, but the Matrix and Vibe are fairly undocumented as far as things go, so I can't remember the exact part number.

Fialchar · Post by **Fialchar** » Sun May 30, 2004 3:15 pm

That's what I was thinking, thanks for clearing that up Jahntassa.

HamiltonAudio · Post by **HamiltonAudio** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 9:00 am

Quote, originally posted by Jahntassa »EVERY Circuit City carries a full line of harnesses. The harnesses for our vehicles should indeed be in stock (or special order items) for any CC store. I know this, because I work there.True, if you're testing a speaker where you can visibly see that the speaker wires are going only to that speaker. In newer cars, where there could be an amplifier, or god forbid the SRS system near the back of a radio (see most newer GM vehicles), using the AA is dangerous.For testing a speaker where you know the wiring is going nowhere but the speaker, yes, I'll agree, the batt is a simple, easy way to test. But I would never use it behind a dashboard..Perhaps I wasn't clear....I'm not talking about bumping the speaker with leads attached!!! the plug will only go on the speaker one way....pull the speaker out, detach it, bump it to find the positive pole and reconnect. Now simply LOOK at the wire which is now connected to the pole you know is positive, and you have it.NEVER NEVER NEVER bump a speaker while its connected to ANYTHING....b

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