Need engine rebuild info for 2005 AWD

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Need engine rebuild info for 2005 AWD

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Hi all.I need to rebuild my 2005 AWD engine. It is currently completely disassembled in my basement awaiting the rebuild and I have all the parts but the person who was working on it flaked out on me.Any recommendations on step by step info on putting this all back together?The oil pump crapped out burning the bearings. I got a parts engine with a good top and bottom end rather than doing the large amount of machining needed when the bearings went. I have all new bearings and gaskets, etc, just need info on putting everything back together. The parts not being replaced have been checked to be in spec so I am ready to begin.Thanks in advance.
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http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=37812Check all the shop/service manuals for engine disassembly instructions.
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Thanks for these they will come in handy but I am going to need more general info as well.Essentially I am looking for a step by step guide to rebuilding the engine. I have never done this before and need to know the order to proceed and smaller details like what types of gasket materials to use in various places and proper cleaning/application, etc.The service manual provides a wealth of information but in a disjointed way.Knowing the sequence of steps would be a huge benefit.My daughter's boyfriend was attempting to rebuild this engine and I finally decided to take over and do it myself. I found that when he attached the lower end to the cylinder block he had gasket material all over the place inside and seems to be blocking a lot of channels that appear that they should be open. I am going to clean it out and start fresh but could find no details on how to seal the bottom end (is there a more official name?) to the cylinder block.And should I put the pistons in prior to bolting these in place or put the pistons in after the crank and everything is together?
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Go to the dealer or internets and buy a complete gasket set. (I hate rtv sealent...I'll spend extra for a real gasket!) Front and rear crankshaft seals. And if you have the $$$ - Piston rings, valve seals if the cylinder head's dissasembled.Make sure you have ALL the specialty tools. The shop manual will specify what these are.Torque-to-yield bolts!!!! They can't be reused!!!Tube/tub of engine assembly grease.RTV sealent's a pain; get a razor blade, wd40 and a green scotch brite pad.If you can find the dissasembly instructions, assembley is just the opposite of those (usually...) unless specified.The last engine I helped rebuild was a 300-6 from a '77 F100, 10 years ago... we put the pistons in from the top after the crank was in.
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Quote, originally posted by the_nite_owl ». I am going to clean it out and start fresh but could find no details on how to seal the bottom end (is there a more official name?) to the cylinder block.And should I put the pistons in prior to bolting these in place or put the pistons in after the crank and everything is together?The thing on the bottom of the block is the oil pan. They sell oil pan gaskets for these engines, but don't try to use one, it's not set up for one, if you try (as I did) it will squeeze out of the way, distort, and leak when you tighten up the pan bolts. Just use a sealer, that's what the factory did.The crank goes in first, then the pistons come in from the top using a ring compressor.in the on line matrix repair manual madstyle hosts at http://madstyle1972.com/Repair/ under section 14, 14-151 cylinder block (1zz-fe) overhaul gives an ordered approach to rebuilding the cylinder block, and 14-052 partial engine assy (1zz-fe) overhaul covers how to put the rest of it together once the block is done.
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I am not that big a newbie, I know what an oil pan is.I was hoping there was a name for the bottom end of the engine block.On top the head, then the cylinder block then the.... followed by the oil pan.The kid put the crank in with new seals then used RTV to seal the bottom engine block piece (of which I do not know a name) to the cylinder block. In doing so though he got a LOT of squeeze out of the RTV into the inside of the engine block and it filled the little channels grooved into the mating surfaces between the cylinder block and bottom of the block. I assume those are there for a reason and should not be sealed by the RTV.The service manual refers to "seal packing" to use to seal these pieces but I am not sure what "seal packing" is.
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Quote, originally posted by the_nite_owl »I am not that big a newbie, I know what an oil pan is.I assumed that, given the scope of task you asked about, but I guess I didn't think it all the way throughQuote, originally posted by the_nite_owl »I was hoping there was a name for the bottom end of the engine block.On top the head, then the cylinder block then the.... followed by the oil pan.The kid put the crank in with new seals then used RTV to seal the bottom engine block piece (of which I do not know a name) to the cylinder block. Now I understand (I think) Looks like the Matrix manual calls that the "bearing cap"Quote, originally posted by the_nite_owl »The service manual refers to "seal packing" to use to seal these pieces but I am not sure what "seal packing" is.I think seal packing is a liquid seal material, perhaps RTV, perhaps the toyota factory uses a different type of sealant/glue that goes on as a thick liquid and then cures. If you use RTV, then(you probably know) use the high-temp variant. if you don't want to use the generic RTV, you could check a Toyota dealer parts/service shop to see if they will tell you what they use.

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