Toyota's fix is a bust, owners claim

[ab2cmiller]

Interesting article about complaints of sudden acceleration AFTER people had recall work performed.Toyota's fix is a bust, owners claimNew complaints allege sudden acceleration and other problems after recall work. http://www.latimes.com/busines...k=rssI guess I'm to the point where I am not convinced the previous "fix" did much of anything, other then buy them a little more time to find the real problem. I think I will wait to take my 2010 Vibe in for the recall work until they come up with the real fix and another recall notice is sent out.

[VforVIBE]

It was only a matter of time until something like this came out, any person with a brain could tell this was beyond a pedal problem......and the hole gets deeper, keep digging your own grave Toyota, not much farther now.

[JetBlack09VibeGT]

There is an interesting article about this in the LA Times...Toyota has sent out nearly 10 million recall notices for its unintended acceleration problem, and while dealers are working hard to install new equipment into customer cars, some consumers report that the current fix may not be enough to completely solve the unintended acceleration problem. In fact, NHTSA has received seven complaints in the past two weeks from Toyota owners saying that even after the repairs, the cars still experienced sudden acceleration issues.The Los Angeles Times reports that many experts feel the gas pedal, floor mat and brake override fixes aren't enough, as they don't deal with the actual root of the problem. Still, we'll have to take these new complaints with a grain of salt until NHTSA actually verifies that the allegations are, in fact, true. NHTSA Administrator David Strickland tells us, "NHTSA has already started contacting consumers about these complaints to get to the bottom of the problem and to make sure Toyota is doing everything possible to make its vehicles safe. If Toyota owners are still experiencing sudden acceleration incidents after taking their cars to the dealership, we want to know about it."

[jimincalif]

Given that every manufacturer has unintended acceleration complaints, and given that most of these are user error, it is inevitable that some reports like this will surface. Interesting article here about DBW systems and their built in redundancies:http://www.popularmechanics.co....html

[star_deceiver]

Interesting read. Glitches can still happen though so the NHTSA has some work to do!

[09vGT]

Yay.. so the worry stays..

[Silversn95]

I could see this one coming, which is why I'm not taking mine in until they understand the real root cause and correction to this issue. I've read up on the 'precision cut' metal shim (that me looks more like a simple stamping) and cannot see how Toyota can call this 'fix' anything more than a bandaid solution to try and correct the symptom, not the root cause.

[Airmack]

very good reads.Now I wonder this. The computer? is it inclosed in a solid steel box with no seems or bolts etc? I only ask because I work for a cable company. A few years ago, this man had a bad cable in his kitchen. This cable had a crack in the shield. When he turned on his blender every morning to make his morning shake thing, all tv's & all cable modems on that street went off line because the equipment in our office could not see signals from the street. only the noise the blender was putting into the system via a cracked cable.

[JetBlack09VibeGT]

Quote, originally posted by Silversn95 » cannot see how Toyota can call this 'fix' anything more than a bandaid solution to try and correct the symptom, not the root cause.This has been my thought all along. by reading all of the data that suggest Toyota knew about this problem since 2004, I don't understand how they can go from "We are looking for a fix" in January 2010 to "Here is the solution, a metal shim" in 3 weeks. It doesn't add up at all.

[vibolista]

Audi folks! Has anyone on this forum been honestly unintendedly accelerated by their Vibe/Matrix/Corolla yet? The Popular Mechanincs article was very illuminating. No system is fool proof, no matter how many redundancies are built in, but in this case, its really possible that operator error is a central part of the problem.I'm not biting on this one, yet. Too many are easily persuaded by repeated sensational headlines. Anyone remember the Audi crashing through its own garage as the driver pushed the wrong pedal to stop the car?

[slmclarengt]

Driver error is potentially the cause of this, similar to the old Audi issue. I have two anecdotal incidents of driver-induced problems. First, just yesterday, a guy was trying to backup, had his head turned back, and was preparing to backup. He was pretty surprised when he started driving over the curb in front of him. He switched it to reverse and that was that.Then, a few years ago, a guy was trying to get out of a parking lot, started reversing, but instead made a drive-thru out of the school cafeteria. He went right into the cafeteria wall when he meant to go backward. Slm

[wt2ga]

Toyota Lawn Mower Recallhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf_QyFlbA8w

[vibolista]

Woh, I wish my Vibe had that kind of acceleration!!!! I have a Honda mower. It doesn't ever do that, but it does catch fire when I use the electric window switches.

[Psychobroker]

Funny how GM initiates a recall of 1.3 million cobalts due to power steering problems/failures, yet nothing in the mainstream media... hmmmmThis, and the two main triggers for the Toyota recall -- two accidents resulting in 8 deaths, if I recall -- was due to 1) a rental car company's error in installing a floormat upside down and 2) an epilleptic driver that might have had a seizure that led to the accident in San Diego.

[Airmack]

Prob because no one died form the issue

[ColonelPanic]

Quote, originally posted by Psychobroker »Funny how GM initiates a recall of 1.3 million cobalts due to power steering problems/failures, yet nothing in the mainstream media... hmmmmAs of this writing, a quick google news search of "Chevrolet Cobalt" yields 1,247 articles. Hardly being underreported. Everybody who builds cars is getting raked over the coals by the media in the latest recall frenzy which Toyota has created.Anyway, Toyota's woes are still good news for the domestics: http://www.news-banner.com/ind...15858 (removed)

[Houston]

Quote, originally posted by Psychobroker »Funny how GM initiates a recall of 1.3 million cobalts due to power steering problems/failures, yet nothing in the mainstream media... hmmmmCNN reported it several times.It seems lots of Americans are quick to condemn the reporting of foreign cars being recalled, but love it when American cars are recalled. Screwed up priorities?

[vibolista]

CNN/Fox/MSNBC reporting on an incident or recall several times does not come close to equaling the constant 24/7 job they are doing on Toyota.

[JetBlack09VibeGT]

Quote, originally posted by vibolista »CNN/Fox/MSNBC reporting on an incident or recall several times does not come close to equaling the constant 24/7 job they are doing on Toyota. Once you get outside of the Midwest, every vehicle you see is a Toyota product, hence the coverage. And since the last number I saw was 8.3 Million vehicles, that makes it a bigger deal than the GM recall for sure.