Anyone know how to read VIN #'s to see what # yours was produced?

scherry2 · Post by **scherry2** » Sun Jun 08, 2003 9:06 am

My vin # ends in 406316built on 03/02 bought it off the lot on 10/15/02it was originally built for some dealer in Ohio and ended up in Fort Wayne, IndianaHMMMM, Nobody must have wanted it in Ohio.

clash31982 · Post by **clash31982** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 9:56 am

Mine is # 81,269. I think it was built in April, and I bought it 30 May 03. I'm starting to wonder if I should've waited for a 2004, oh well.

stkos79 · Post by **stkos79** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 10:07 am

well i think a got one of the first 04's vin at 00016 ,

scherry2 · Post by **scherry2** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 10:12 am

16! really thats quite unusual because the first 20 to 40 vin # are most often pilot vehicles built in the plant but not for sale to the general public. could be though, I've heard of it before. congrats if it is.

stkos79 · Post by **stkos79** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 11:04 am

we got a couple of 04s on the lot im going to see it there lower thanmine

esjones · Post by **esjones** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 10:10 pm

quote:well i think a got one of the first 04's vin at 00016 , WOW! Yours was most likely built on the first day of '04 production!

esjones · Post by **esjones** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 10:12 pm

quote:16! really thats quite unusual because the first 20 to 40 vin # are most often pilot vehicles built in the plant but not for sale to the general public. I think that what you say is most often the case in a new model or a major redesign. Since the 04 Vibe differs very little from the 2003 models, they probably don't need to build as many 'practice cars' at the plant.

MA-VIBE-FAN · Post by **MA-VIBE-FAN** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 11:01 pm

quote:well i think a got one of the first 04's vin at 00016 , WOW! Yours was most likely built on the first day of '04 production!More like the first couple hours!

stkos79 · Post by **stkos79** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 9:10 am

the 2 other two on the lot are #275 and 276

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scherry2 · Post by **scherry2** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 11:13 am

quote: I think that what you say is most often the case in a new model or a major redesign. Since the 04 Vibe differs very little from the 2003 models, they probably don't need to build as many 'practice cars' at the plant.We are currently running the 2004 Chevy and GMC 1/2 ton pickup truck pilots and we ran 160 pilots the first 80 were not for resale. and there is no major change, agreed some years pilots jobs are low depending on what changes are made, ie: mechanical or cosmetic still pretty cool to get a number that low. I wonder what the lowest number for the o3 vibe was???

esjones · Post by **esjones** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 9:53 pm

quote: We are currently running the 2004 Chevy and GMC 1/2 ton pickup truck pilots and we ran 160 pilots the first 80 were not for resale.Do the 'pilots' have regular production VINs assigned? I read the book "All Corvettes are Red" (highly recommended) about the development of the 5th generation Corvette, and I seem to remember that some not-for-resale cars had special format VINs to indicate that.

scherry2 · Post by **scherry2** » Fri Jun 13, 2003 5:35 am

No they just start at 000001 for that model year. now the do run, say the 2005 prototype the have a special prefix number like EX0001 after assembly, those they disassemble and check part fit, form, function, and build problems and scrap the rest.

stkos79 · Post by **stkos79** » Fri Jun 13, 2003 8:43 am

got a stick for a vibe comming in soon 04 awd production is at 4,050 so there moving the cars out !!

MA-VIBE-FAN · Post by **MA-VIBE-FAN** » Tue Jun 17, 2003 12:34 am

Went to the GM Auto Show in Motion this past Friday. In the "Hot Products Display" was the orange Vibe Fx show car. The VIN was 3Z999021. So perhaps the test cars do not start at 000001 but at 999999. So a very very low number could be a saleable car.

scherry2 · Post by **scherry2** » Tue Jun 17, 2003 9:10 am

I guess so. the numbers and letters before the 999999 must account for something then. I'll ask an engineer down at work they should know. then again I work in audit and my boss should know,we work with the Vin #,csn# , and fon # all day and each meams something different but all have the last 6 spaces as #. I'll check

MA-VIBE-FAN · Post by **MA-VIBE-FAN** » Tue Jun 17, 2003 10:22 pm

quote:Went to the GM Auto Show in Motion this past Friday. In the "Hot Products Display" was the orange Vibe Fx show car. The VIN was 3Z999021. So perhaps the test cars do not start at 000001 but at 999999. So a very very low number could be a saleable car.These are just the last 8 of the VIN, all I wrote down. The "3" is for 2003 and the "Z" is for the NUMMI plant.

suzye · Post by **suzye** » Wed Jun 18, 2003 3:27 am

number 18,575 here! Thanks for the info, it was cool to find out what all the digits of the VIN were for!

disneydj · Post by **disneydj** » Wed Jun 18, 2003 4:45 am

Got mine in December '02 with 8 miles on it. Number 1,049

scherry2 · Post by **scherry2** » Wed Jun 18, 2003 5:05 am

any VIN # if the last 6 places are numbers it is a saleable vehicle. if they have letters like: EX0001 that is experimental and cannot be sold. by all rights a #100001 could be sold but I think NUMMI probably has the # 1 produced car in their plant.

joatmon · Post by **joatmon** » Fri Jul 04, 2003 5:54 am

quote:Decode your VIN:The first digit is the County of Origin: 5 = ??? (1 = USA, J = Japan, I have no idea what 5 stands for)The 2nd digit is the Company Built By: Y = NUMMIThe 3rd digit is the GM Division: 2 = PontiacThe 4th and 5th digit are the model: SL = Vibe (this my differ for GT's and AWD's)The 6th digit is the body style: 6 = 4-door hatchback/liftbackThe 7th digit is the Restraint Codes: 2 = Active (manual) belts w/driver & passenger air bagsThe 8th digit is the Engine type: 8 = 1ZZ engine; L = 2ZZ GT engineThe 9th digit is a check digit (see below how to calculate)The 10th digit is the model year: 3 = 2003The 11th digit is the assembly plant; Z = Fremont, CAThe 12th thru 17th digits are the sequence number: 400001 = 1st car7th digit = 4 must be for models with front side air bags

MiamiVibe · Post by **MiamiVibe** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 8:45 am

Finally got around to this number 4449 model built for 2003 built on 02/02.

viberations · Post by **viberations** » Thu Jul 17, 2003 9:35 am

mine bulit in 01/02 1804th i got an old one

Reynoma · Post by **Reynoma** » Thu Sep 11, 2003 2:50 am

Interesting, my final numbers are: 3z408929, so that would make mine #8,929, but I just purchased mine in July 2003 (and it had about 400 miles on the odometer), so mine must have been sitting on the dealer lot for a while.

joatmon · Post by **joatmon** » Thu Sep 11, 2003 3:09 am

It must have been sitting somewhere. When was it built? (The sticker on the driver's door jamb says what month/year it was built)

Reynoma · Post by **Reynoma** » Thu Sep 11, 2003 8:27 pm

It says that my car was manufactured in 03/02 - so my car sat "someplace" for about 1.5 years before I bought it.

Hot Vibe · Post by **Hot Vibe** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 11:02 pm

If you turned your IM on I would have told ya what happened to your AWD vibe since March of last year.

joatmon · Post by **joatmon** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 11:05 pm

quote:If you turned your IM on I would have told ya what happened to your AWD vibe since March of last year.Reynoma's sig says it's a GT. Did you look up his sequence number and it says it's an AWD?

Reynoma · Post by **Reynoma** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 11:18 pm

I thought I was getting great traction! What do you mean by IM on? (EDIT) OK, I found how to turn it on.Now my curiosity is killing me.

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:39 am

quote:It says that my car was manufactured in 03/02 - so my car sat "someplace" for about 1.5 years before I bought it.Wow, I can't believe it sat there unpurchased so long!!! The Canucks would've taken it in a heartbeat...

Hot Vibe · Post by **Hot Vibe** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 11:02 pm

According to the last eight of the VIN#3z408929. That is what I presumed that was. Make sure I have it right. Something happened to that AWD during the time between the plant and the dealer. Nothing major. It was delayed to be sold until June but it stiil sat on the lot for a year. So if that is your last eight of the vin then you have an AWD not a GT. I will IM you very soon.

NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 11:13 pm

quote:According to the last eight of the VIN#3z408929. So if that is your last eight of the vin then you have an AWD not a GT.The last 8 digits have nothing to do with the determination of a GT vs a base vs an AWD. The last 6 digits are just the production sequence from the plant.It's the 4th and 5th digits that tell you what model you have:SL = base VibeSM = AWD VibeSN = GT

Reynoma · Post by **Reynoma** » Tue Sep 16, 2003 1:40 am

I've IM'd (would that be the correct verb tense?) my VIN to Hot Vibe. We'll see what the story is.....to be continued.

eh_clark · Post by **eh_clark** » Tue Sep 16, 2003 3:51 pm

Well, I just found this thread, so I'm a little late in the game but guess what. I just found out I own 400167 which would make my vibe one of the first few to ever roll off the line. It makes sense since I purchased it in March of 02.

Reynoma · Post by **Reynoma** » Tue Sep 16, 2003 9:29 pm

quote:Well, I just found this thread, so I'm a little late in the game but guess what. I just found out I own 400167 which would make my vibe one of the first few to ever roll off the line. It makes sense since I purchased it in March of 02. Wow, #167 - that's impressive. I would say welcome, but you've kinda been part of the Vibe family for a while now.

Hot Vibe · Post by **Hot Vibe** » Tue Sep 16, 2003 10:35 pm

QUOTE FROM NOVA:The last 8 digits have nothing to do with the determination of a GT vs a base vs an AWD. The last 6 digits are just the production sequence from the plant.In my system all I need is the last eight. If I have all 17 I can get the same results.

Hot Vibe · Post by **Hot Vibe** » Tue Sep 16, 2003 10:56 pm

ATWORK thanks for the good repore. I forgot to mention nice TAT!!.Your husband is a cutie!!! Looks like you two were headed for a Nirvanna concert. He wears a suit and tie everyday? He looks like an intimidating lawyer type!!! Just joking I know you have a good sense of humor. You guys should buy a Harley.

joatmon · Post by **joatmon** » Tue Sep 16, 2003 11:04 pm

So if Reynoma has a GT, and it was originally built as an AWD, then there's a story there that we are all anxiously waiting to hear.

NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Tue Sep 16, 2003 11:27 pm

quote:So if that is your last eight of the vin then you have an AWD not a GT.I think Mark would know the difference between an automatic AWD and a 6-speed GT.Mark, can you just post you VIN so we can clear this up? Or at least tell us the 4th, 5th and 8th digits. It's very easy:4th and 5th digits:SL = VibeSM = AWD VibeSN = GT Vibe8th digit:8 = 1ZZ base/AWD engineL = 2ZZ GT engine

Reynoma · Post by **Reynoma** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:03 am

quote:So if that is your last eight of the vin then you have an AWD not a GT.I think Mark would know the difference between an automatic AWD and a 6-speed GT.Mark, can you just post you VIN so we can clear this up? Or at least tell us the 4th, 5th and 8th digits. It's very easy:4th and 5th digits:SL = VibeSM = AWD VibeSN = GT Vibe8th digit:8 = 1ZZ base/AWD engineL = 2ZZ GT engineMy full VIN number is 5Y2 SN 64 L 33Z408929 - so it is coded correctly as a GT. As Hot Vibe has pointed out to me, the AWD is probably a typo in the system. My car is simply too "peppy" to be dragging along the AWD hardware.BTW, thanks Nova for the vote of confidence. I can, in fact, pretty quickly tell the difference between an automatic and a 6-speed. But can anybody tell me what this third petal is for?

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:08 am

quote:But can anybody tell me what this third petal is for? That's to eject a rowdy passenger...

NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:11 am

quote:5Y2SN6 4 L33Z408929I see you have side airbags too.

Reynoma · Post by **Reynoma** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:18 am

quote:5Y2SN6 4 L33Z408929I see you have side airbags too.Yes, I didn't realize I had them until I got the car home and started snooping around inside.

Hot Vibe · Post by **Hot Vibe** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:40 am

The key that it is also a GT is Vin position8 SFI

NovaResource · Post by **NovaResource** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:42 am

Deja vu

joatmon · Post by **joatmon** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:44 am

That's all probably for the best, a typo. Ho hum. I was hoping for some story about an incident with the car, where it was originally an AWD, and was somehow reprocessed into a GT, perhaps involving international espionage and scantily clad bond babes.

Hot Vibe · Post by **Hot Vibe** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:53 am

There have been in the past mix ups with VIN#'s. It is not a perfect world. Look at all of the mistakes that the government has done with misprints on the US currency!!!! Yes it was a typo and I just wanted to let him know what happened to his vehicle and not to be worried. When he actually takes the vehicle in for warranty work (hopefully not soon) they might type it up wrong on the work order because they read the screen and did not look closely at the vehicle. The vin is king and as long as they do not put that in wrong life is good. I remember and old vehicle with the wrong vin# that was sold. The car is worth$$$$$$

joatmon · Post by **joatmon** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 2:34 am

quote:The 7th digit is the Restraint Codes: 2 = Manual belts w/driver & passenger front air bags; 4 = Manual belts w/driver & passenger front & side air bagsThe pontiac.com build your own vibe tool only allows side air bags or ABS in a 2004 vibe as part of the "Security Package", along with an alarm system. My vibe has side air bags, and 7th digit = 4. My car also has ABS. Does the "4" indicate side air bags and ABS, or just side air bags? Does Pontiac (NUMMI) make (or does anyone have) a vibe with just side air bags, or just ABS, without having the other one also?

Hot Vibe · Post by **Hot Vibe** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 3:29 am

quote:My vibe has side air bags, and 7th digit = 4. My car also has ABS. Does the "4" indicate side air bags and ABS, or just side air bags? Does Pontiac (NUMMI) make (or does anyone have) a vibe with just side air bags, or just ABS, without having the other one also?For your Vibe 4 does equal side air bags.JL9=power ABS brake front and rear that is the RPO code. ABS does not show on the VIN. That will be located in the glove box. I think it was shown on this thread.

joatmon · Post by **joatmon** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 10:05 am

Hot Vibe, I checked my glove box sticker codes, and there is no JL9, yet I know it has ABS, had fun playing with them in the snow last winter. There's a bunch of codes on that sticker, but I don't know what any of them meanOK, I looked them up and will psot them in the Tech Info Forum JL9 is the code for ABS on a GT, but on a base like mine, the code for ABS is JM4I posted the RPO codes at http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=6558

Hot Vibe · Post by **Hot Vibe** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 1:46 am

Joatman IM me. I will help translate the RPO CODES.