09 Parts on National Back Order?!

[badtzbuzz]

I ordered a GM air filter and cabin filter this past week. I was told Thursday that those parts are on National Back Order with no ETA for these parts.This concerns me, if they don't even have simple parts like these, what about the major components?

[09vGT]

When I had some warranty work done, the service manager said that he was very surprised that they found the part that they were looking for. It was the piece that goes around the steering wheel, ignition area. This also concerns me quite a bit to!

[Caretaker]

badtz: go and cancel your order. There is no reason to order such parts in the first place. The engine air filters can be bought at WalMart. The cabin air filters are easily cut from furnace filters. Go and buy any multi pack of one inch thick furnace filters and cut them yourself. The cabin air filters get dirty very quickly and need to be replaced about 3 times a year. Don't waste money on OEM parts.

[bikeman1]

Caretaker is right about dealer parts. You probably put them in a coma asking to buy an OEM air filter there. That hadn't happened in years....Here's an online catalog for Toyota OEM parts (lots of parts on your vibe will be branded Toyota...). Surprisingly, the prices on this site are pretty good , unlike the GM parts sites, most of which (I think) are operated by dealers. There may be exceptions to this rule. This site however has a good search engine and a good parts cross index locator. I've used it for consumibles with success. They will take returns though they assess a restocking fee (fair enough). http://www.toyotapartsbarn.com/If you want to support Walmart, that's OK but they don't have much there but air filters and oil filters. Autozone or Advance Auto are also good choices, although beware of inflated prices on some items (cabin air filters for example....)

[bikeman1]

This may be rehashing old posts... but...CT., I agree with you about OEM parts in general but as one who is strongly allergic to dust, I don't think that furnace air filters would be the right choice (or work at all) for keeping out fine dust and organic particulates. There are furnace filters and there are furnace filters but the "el cheapo" 1" x 3'x3' panels are like MERV3. Anything Merv 4 or less will let particles finer than 10 microns (0.01 mm) pass. Things finer than 10 microns include pet dander, insecticide dust, smog, fine inorganic dust, viruses, wood ash, tobacco smoke, spores, bacteria and pollen. Pollen doesn't get pulled until MERV 6 or better. As far as changeout goes, you can replace them as often as you like but cheap furnace filters are too coarse to keep out allergens if you did it daily. Some furnace filters are much finer (not the cheap ones), but then if you cut your own, it would be difficult to a quality seal and the air and particulates would just go around. But hey I've seen amazing things done on Youtube with a Dewalt hand grinder....From my experience (and the nose knows.....a little bit of fine dust will set loose my sinuses), one doesn't have to replace cabin filters anywhere near that frequently. Once every two years is fine for town driving, once annually if you drive gravel roads. People who sell filters will tell you twice that frequency. If you are doing it anymore frequently, the filter getups you are using are probably just not working in the first place.The stock cabin air filters are the equivalent of about MERV 8-9 -- that gets it down to 1 micron or so, will hold back pollen -- and to get air to pass through, it needs a positive seal around the element. I really don't think home cut filters would be very effective, even if you had the right media Cabin air filters do get sold at rip off prices (I have seen them at Advance Auto for $35!), probably because people don't know much about them. and they are not easy to find. But they can be also had for $11 or so on Amazon, which is a bearable tariff, at least for someone with allergies.....the cheapest I have seen is $5 for one that fits the 2006-07 Tacoma and Matrix. More expensive than a $2 furnace filter but geez....http://www.amazon.com/Cabin-Fi...CW4FMh ... .2_img>the previous two are for the pre-2009 Vibes. Thanks for picking up on the new filter CT. Here is the 2009-10 TYC version -- WIX Part # 24483 -- about the same price (less than $7)http://www.logical-source.com/....html>>>>>>>That's my 2 cents anyway. Here is an old post from genvibe all about thishttp://forums.genvibe.com/zero...age=2and if you want tech details on these cabin filters, Micron Air makes most of them irrespective of who brands them Quote, originally posted by Caretaker »The cabin air filters are easily cut from furnace filters. Go and buy any multi pack of one inch thick furnace filters and cut them yourself. The cabin air filters get dirty very quickly and need to be replaced about 3 times a year. Don't waste money on OEM parts.

[Caretaker]

I just checked my Dirt Demon filters from Lowes. I got the Merv 6 ones, mainly because: a: I am cheap, and b: because I change them out 4 times per year I figured I don't need to get the high end ones. Certainly you can buy any quality level you want, but as we know, it has to be cheaper taking scissors to a one inch furnace filter and cutting up your own than buying the pre-sized ones. I'm glad we are having this conversation; if the wind chill would only get above zero here, I would venture out and put in a new one in my '09.

[Caretaker]

WOW, now I'm really glad we're having this conversation. I just sprinted out to my car (saw Toto fly by in the wind) and opened up my glove box. It then dawned on me that:1. I had never lowered the glove box to expose the cabin filter housing2. The '09-'10 glove box does not fall on the floor like the first gen ones when you push in on the sides to lower the box3. the cabin filter housing is slightly further behind the radio console than the first gen4. the cabin filter housing's door has only one IDIOT PROOF/BREAK PROOF latch on the right side5. the filter is 1.25 inches thick (over twice as thick as the first gen)6. my filter looks like crap, as it has been in there since Oct 2008I'm now assuiming that the thicker filter (1.25 inches tall) is equivalent to a 2'' furnace filter??? I'm off to Lowes to find out. I'll let you know badtz. Scratch my advice on the one inch filter for the new generation Vibe cabin air filter box. Unless you double it up, it won't work!!

[09vGT]

My air filter catches more bugs then anything..

[Caretaker]

OK, update:WalMart does not carry cabin air filters (CAF). I got body slammed to the floor only 3 times by security while attempting to leave with my old OEM one in hand. I did find a site selling '09-'10 CAF for $13. After handling and shipping charges, I decided to do what I do best: improvise. I cut two (one inch) furnace filters and stacked them on top of one another, and shoved them into the CAF housing. Works just fine. Bottom line: there ain't no way I'm paying $20-$25 at Auto Zone for a stupid CAF. As 09vGT pointed out, my layered filter approach will catch bugs, pollen, and tree debris just fine.

[star_deceiver]

Quote, originally posted by badtzbuzz »This concerns me, if they don't even have simple parts like these, what about the major components?I'm still waiting for the vacuum brake recall parts... been about 9 weeks so far...+1 on cutting up a furnace filter!

[ColonelPanic]

We have someone else here waiting on the brake controller thingy for the ABS/stability control. You can't just go to wally world and pick one of those up. I see parts availability becoming a significant issue in the near future.

[bikeman1]

gotta watch those Walmart security guys, they have a lot of venom -- they are the ones who applied for greeter but didn't get the job Here's a link to a $6 cabin air filter if you want to stock up....didn't check shipping...and I've not ordered with these guys. But there are multiple sources out there. The autozone markups must be hugehttp://www.logical-source.com/....htmlThanks for picking up on the filter change in 2009. There's only one thing worse than a $30 air filter and that's a $30 air filter that doesn't fit! Quote, originally posted by Caretaker »OK, update:WalMart does not carry cabin air filters (CAF). I got body slammed to the floor only 3 times by security while attempting to leave with my old OEM one in hand. I did find a site selling '09-'10 CAF for $13. After handling and shipping charges, I decided to do what I do best: improvise. I cut two (one inch) furnace filters and stacked them on top of one another, and shoved them into the CAF housing. Works just fine. Bottom line: there ain't no way I'm paying $20-$25 at Auto Zone for a stupid CAF. As 09vGT pointed out, my layered filter approach will catch bugs, pollen, and tree debris just fine.

[DeClerq]

I thought about getting a couple for my '04 from Logical-source. Filter costs $3.62, shipping $6.29! There ain't no way it costs that much to ship something that probably only weighs a couple ounces.

[Caretaker]

TOCAFCBU Cabin Air Filter (for Heater, A/C and Ventilation System)(particulate, 1-piece, glove box, install Well, assuming this is the correct filter, $6.67 is a great price. To order 5, they want over $11 shipping. That takes the price to $9 per filter. Still a good price.: Subtotal: $33.35 Shipping: $11.87 Total: $45.22 Here's the price for 10: Subtotal: $66.70 Shipping: $12.86 Total: $79.56 That takes the price to $8 a filter.

[bikeman1]

especially for the 2009-10's. the older vibes had a larger installed base and more common parts in their time of the vehicle cycle Quote, originally posted by ColonelPanic »We have someone else here waiting on the brake controller thingy for the ABS/stability control. You can't just go to wally world and pick one of those up. I see parts availability becoming a significant issue in the near future.