Broken Fog Lights

FoxTv · Post by **FoxTv** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 2:01 am

Hi,Both of my Vibe fog lights are broken. There're still working, but, the glass is on them is broken. I'm doing a lot of driving... I guess I it a few rocks on the highway.Anyone is having the same problems ? Is it normal ? Is there more resistant fog lights out there ?

michaelgt · Post by **michaelgt** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 2:46 am

My passenger side glass is also broken. It still works. I must have taken a stone of the glass. I guess that is the risk when driving 2.5k miles a month.

KSNeptune · Post by **KSNeptune** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 3:35 am

If you don't encounter rocky roads or follow trucks shedding gravel, your fog lights may have been broken by a vandel. It would be an unusual coincidence that BOTH lights were broken accidently, without other damage evident on the front of the car. Fog lights are right at "kick with your shoe" level.Do you leave the Vibe parked outside at night? Got any teenage boys living in the neighborhood? Where the car was parked when you noticed the broken fog lenses, is there any broken glass still on the ground?If it WAS vandalism, your insurance may pay to have them replaced. You may need to file a police report though.KSNeptune

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 4:01 am

Sounds like vandals dude. I had a ligh t bulb explode inside the housing, and it didn't shatter the glass -- it broke a chunk of it off, but didn't shatter it. That's wicked thick glass -- it takes a lot to break it...

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 4:32 am

FYI:Definitely look for signs of vandalism. To replace the fog assemblies (glass is not available separately, the whole assembly must be replaced) is $148 (list price) PER LIGHT!P/N: 88969944

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 5:08 am

$90 a pop is still wicked expensive.Plus. youi're not taking into account shipping.88969944 Headlamp Housing/Capsule LAMPUnit Price: $89.87Qty: 2Item Subtotal: $179.74SHIPPING: $35.95Subtotal: $215.69 Non-NC Residents Total: $215.69Sales Tax (NC Only): $12.58NC Residents Total: $228.27

CMcGowan · Post by **CMcGowan** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:54 pm

I smell upgrade time. Since the fogs are a somewhat standard size, you can probably find an aftermakert pair that are brighter and better for the price of one OEM light. A little work with a Dremel on the old lights and you got your bracket(s) to mount your new ones.Just a thought.

FoxTv · Post by **FoxTv** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 9:54 pm

I don't think it's vandals. The front of my car got rocks impact all over it. I do 100km a day on the higtway... This winter, my front glass was chip by a big ice morcel coming form the top of a 18 wheels truck. The fog are still working, there just crack. If anyone know aftermarket fogs that could work and not as expensive as the original... Please let me know.

fire_502 · Post by **fire_502** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 9:27 am

Any luck on finding some aftermarket ones that would fit? I just discovered a huge rock and about a 3rd of my fog lamp cover missing while I was installing my hood deflector (because of the TWO stone chips I got in ONE day last week and multiple stone chips in the hood). Anyway, is the part number, 88969944, the right one to order to follow the instructions in http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=4594 ?

fire_502 · Post by **fire_502** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 11:05 am

Is the $211 for a set of 2, or just one lamp? I'm just a little concerned that this one http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/results.cfm does not show a picture of what it is. I doubt the Matrix ones are any tougher than the Vibe ones though and since my car seems to be a rock and stone magnet lately, I should just get the cheapest one.

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 11:10 am

What is the advantage of the PIAA fixtures over stock? They don't put out any more light, why would people spend money on them?

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 11:12 am

(I deleted that when I realized he meant the PIAAs. I thought he was talking abotu the replacement GM ones...)

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 11:18 am

So there is no advantage to the PIAAs...jsut a different look?

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 11:26 am

how...the wiring can't handle a higher wattage bulb...

fire_502 · Post by **fire_502** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 11:30 am

great. I can't handle flying rocks AND catching on fire. I have to draw the line somewhere

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 11:35 am

I just don't u nderstand how they broke dude...them things are MAD thick! Besides, The way they're recessed, I just don't see any signs of them being hit by debris...no scratches or marks on them anywhere...You must have some killer rocks out there...seek and destroy or something...lol...

fire_502 · Post by **fire_502** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 11:40 am

I don't understand how it broke either! There is something big and dark in there, I'm suspecting the culprit rock. I only takd 3 different roads to work - but they are all expressways and I do about 75 or 80 when it's not bumper-to-bumper. I pay attention and stay away from huge trucks, but I think every time I hear any little grain of sand hit my car, I swear it leaves its mark. The first stone chip in my windshield spread from the time it happened in the morning until lunch, so I had to get it filled that fast. The second is minor, so I'm just going to pretend I didn't notice it. I think I have only driven down a dirt road like 2 times ever with this car. Someone should design a bubble for my vibe! (and I'm a she - not a he. )

Rico Rose · Post by **Rico Rose** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 11:18 am

I noticed that the plastic cover (or glass) over my driver side fog light is broken. I also have some scratches on the under-side of the bumper (must have hit something or a snow drift this past winter) my light is still working though. I will probably just let it go and when the light burns out try to find a good after-market replacement...

fire_502 · Post by **fire_502** » Sun Jul 27, 2003 8:37 am

quote:I just don't u nderstand how they broke dude...them things are MAD thick! Besides, The way they're recessed, I just don't see any signs of them being hit by debris...no scratches or marks on them anywhere...You must have some killer rocks out there...seek and destroy or something...lol...Ok, here's an update...My dad just fished out the "rock" that I thought broke the fog lamp, but it turned out to be this little, triangular, metal thing. He said it's a fitting for some tool or something. It must have fallen off a truck and hit my fog lamp with one of the angles. It's pretty cool looking though. I might make a necklace or bracelet out of it.

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fire_502 · Post by **fire_502** » Sun Jul 27, 2003 8:38 am

Here's a pic of the damage.

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fire_502 · Post by **fire_502** » Sun Jul 27, 2003 8:49 am

Here's one where you can see the size...I'm done now. I just thought it was a crazy thing to fly into a little fog light.

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pwarren4 · Post by **pwarren4** » Sun Jul 27, 2003 9:48 am

What you have there is a carbide indexable turning tool. These are used in conjunction with a hool holder (clamp) and mounted to a tool post (mount) and used to machine steel with a lathe. Very unusual to find one of these in a car light. Do live or drive around any Machine or Tool & Die shops?The one you have there looks very much like a Kennametel brand http://www.kennametal.com/en/new_catalo ... stid=38565

scherry2 · Post by **scherry2** » Sun Jul 27, 2003 10:58 am

quote:Here's one where you can see the size...I'm done now. I just thought it was a crazy thing to fly into a little fog light. crazy and expensive...GM oem fog lamps $140.00 + each

fire_502 · Post by **fire_502** » Sun Jul 27, 2003 11:19 am

quote:Very unusual to find one of these in a car light. Do live or drive around any Machine or Tool & Die shops?Not really that I know of. I drive on a couple different expressways to get to work. I figure it just flew into it while I was driving, but why something like that would be on the road, I'm not sure. I don't even know when it happened. I just discovered it one day. quote:crazy and expensive...GM oem fog lamps $140.00 + each Yeah, no kidding. My dad put clear tape on it today, which I think looks totally ghetto, and I'll probably take it off soon. I guess it's just time to bite the bullet and buy a new one.

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