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Vibe2009
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2.4L engine warm up really quick!

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Ok, so I live in Canadian and is starting to get cold up here~One thing I notice is how quickly my 2.4L automatic vibe warms up! It ways up way faster than my gf's 2008 civic and my previous 2.0L ford focus....Is a good thing, not really complaining, but does anyone else notice this? Hopefully not just me....Engine will drop to 1K rpm in a minute or so from a cold morning start...
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Re: 2.4L engine warm up really quick! (Vibe2009)

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yah i noticed this car warms up pretty fast too. even my 2002 maxima has to take a few minutes to warm up and sound normal. i turn on the vibe then open the gate, reverse out and close gate and car's already warmed. i dont' think i need a remote start for this car...but then again we don't get freezing temperatures here lol
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Post by oriden »

i had noticed that today actuly! (even in my 05') as today we are reciving our first large dump of snow today and for the next couple days. im blessed to drive home from work in darkness (aft shift) and could actuly see out my windows and was warm inside by the time i had brushed off all of the white crap!
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Re: 2.4L engine warm up really quick! (lowincash)

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but gas mileage is pretty bad~ My last tank was 11.3L/100kms... To be fair, I do warm my car to 1k rpms before driving.... but man, that's still pretty bad~ my car is currently only at 1020kms....
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Decreased fuel mileage in the winter is attributed to:1. engine idles more (engine warms up)2. winter blend of fuel3. cooler temperatures4. ECU has to readjust to #2 and #3 Decreased fuel mileage overall:1. engine is not broken in yet2. city driving (stop and go)3. accelerating quickly
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Re: 2.4L engine warm up really quick! (Vibe2009)

Post by Eloi »

Quote, originally posted by Vibe2009 »but gas mileage is pretty bad~ My last tank was 11.3L/100kms... To be fair, I do warm my car to 1k rpms before driving.... but man, that's still pretty bad~ my car is currently only at 1020kms....You have an "heavy" foot? My Vibe has now 16500 km and since I put on the winter tires 3 weeks ago, I noticed that the mileage is not as good as this summer. For my usual driving (60%HWY 40% City) it went from 8-8,5L/100 km to around 9.3-9.5 L /100 km. I used to drive at 105 km/h on the highway, but since the fuel is cheaper, I now drive at 110 km/h. You're right, 11.3 L/100 km is not good. I got that this summer, but we were 4 in the car, hauling our tent-trailer in the Adirondacks in NY state...
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Quote, originally posted by Vibe2009 »but gas mileage is pretty bad~ My last tank was 11.3L/100kms... To be fair, I do warm my car to 1k rpms before driving.... but man, that's still pretty bad~ my car is currently only at 1020kms....if i'm calculating this correctly, your 11.3L/100kms equals to about 2.904gallons/62.14miles which equals to 21.4mpg? if it is then it does sound low...i've been getting 25-31mpg =/
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Post by DarkSpork »

Its been getting significantly colder out here. Its about 2 degrees Fahrenheit (-16 Celsius) outside right now. I plug my car in before I go to bed. Then when I start it I unplug it, scrape the ice off the windows have a smoke then drive it. My gas mileage is currently similar to yours.
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I find leaving the block heater plug-in even after the car started, it will warm up much faster!! Try it!
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Significantly colder? in NoDak? How can you tell? Is your sig picture a summer or winter scene? Need to take speed down in the cold to maintain good mileage. Gas is less expensive right now, but if we start to gobble it up again, then prices will shoot back up in a hurry. I don't warm the car before I drive. I start it and wait a second or two while I get the seat belt on and then drive off very gently. Winter blend gas started up in October and have only lost a couple or 3 mpg's from 37-38 to 35 so far. Temps here not quite as cold as yours... between 15 and 17 degs F the last few mornings. Heat doesn't really get going until around 5 miles of driving, again very gently. Afternoon highs have reached the upper 20s or so. Also, remember the general rule about tire pressure. You lose about 1 psi for every 10 degrees of cooling. So if you set your tire pressure at 35 psi when the outside air was 70 and now its only 10 degrees, you've lost 6 psi. That will make a difference. Easy does it, especially when it's cold! Block heaters work great to get you heat sooner, too.
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That picture was taken in March, so winter. I was able to tell that was the temperature because that's what the thermometer on my dash said that morning. It warmed a little since that day. Weather is unpredictable out here. I don't really drive that fast either way. The reason allow my car so much time to warm up before I drive it is because the place I work is maybe a mile from my dorm (probably less). I like to let my car warm up before I shut it off, I understand this makes lower fuel economy, but I only use maybe a tank a month.
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Post by djb383 »

What is your definition of 'warms up quickly'???? Looking at the factory temp gauge? - it's worthless. Idle speed quickly drops? - just different ECU programming from earlier models.
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It's a balmy 28F here right now.
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Re: 2.4L engine warm up really quick! (ou.grizzly)

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Quote, originally posted by ou.grizzly »Decreased fuel mileage in the winter is attributed to:1. engine idles more (engine warms up)2. winter blend of fuel3. cooler temperatures4. ECU has to readjust to #2 and #3 I thought a lot had to do with the ECU running in "open loop" mode longer as the engine warms up.
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Re: 2.4L engine warm up really quick! (abbotlex)

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These engines go into closed loop with-in seconds after starting (heated O2 sensor), hot or cold......at least that's what the ScanGauge indicates.
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Re: 2.4L engine warm up really quick! (lowincash)

Post by ned23 »

the only reason I pre-heat my car in the winter is when it's really, really cold or when I take a lot of short trips. I heard it's good to pre-heat it once in a while so that the oil really heats up and the moisture gets driven out.
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