not so happy so far with the aftermarket...

[impalamike3800]

well ive been snooping around for the week looking to see what goodies to toss on the GT and first to come to mind was tuning. now I know my HP tuners software will not interface with tyota so i called up Unichip for more information on their operations. long story short if i want to tune this thing i have to spend 2500 to get certified. ghey if you ask me. not to mention the certification is not ase certification (as there is no tuning ASE certification) but rather Unichip certification. so i reach out to you the people who are working on these cars longer than I, is there a software out for the vibe that is a full suite or is everything mailorder tune? i also plan to make our own intake and exhaust, see no sence in paying 200 for intake pipe and 500+ for some pipes with flanges and mufflers.

[4azdmunky]

I'm using a Greddy Blue modded to a Gold, with the tools.alpha addition and a PLX A/F gauge w/wideband O2. It autotunes the car to keep me from running to rich or lean. It seems to be working better than the $250 i paid to have someone dyno and create maps for me.I've had bad luck with Unichip on other cars. Poor cables, maps that would stop working etc.

[northvibe]

dude check out the cheap modification threads.camcon or greddy emanage (but i hear they are going under....)check with tuners around your city or local cities to see if they are unichip authorized.

[4azdmunky]

What, who is going under? Camcon or greddy?

[AKLGT]

Greddy.. but I believe they got saved from the chopping block last minute.

[impalamike3800]

Quote, originally posted by northvibe »dude check out the cheap modification threads.camcon or greddy emanage (but i hear they are going under....)check with tuners around your city or local cities to see if they are unichip authorized.yeah i already checked out the cheap mod thread. was not that impressed with what was in there. didnt see any internals or f/i. and yeah i dont plan on paying anyone to tune a car for me. ive been doing it for the past 5 years now and have a firm grasp on tuning. it generally takes me an hour on the dyno to dial a car in.

[BlueCrush]

Quote, originally posted by impalamike3800 »yeah i already checked out the cheap mod thread. was not that impressed with what was in there. didnt see any internals or f/i. First off you didn't ask about internals or FI, you asked about chips. The Poor Man's Mod thread has the two cheapest chips available for the Vibe. Your chip options are:UnichipCamconEmanage BlueEmanage UltimateHyrda EMSThe Boomslang harness is available for the Camcon and both Emanage's.Second, internals and FI re not in the Poor Man's mot thread because they're not cheap.

[BlueCrush]

Quote, originally posted by 4azdmunky »I'm using a Greddy Blue modded to a Gold, with the tools.alpha addition and a PLX A/F gauge w/wideband O2. It autotunes the car to keep me from running to rich or lean. I have never heard of the Gold version of GReddy, found some info here: http://www.msprotege.com/forum...14417

[impalamike3800]

Quote, originally posted by BlueCrush »First off you didn't ask about internals or FI, you asked about chips. The Poor Man's Mod thread has the two cheapest chips available for the Vibe. Your chip options are:UnichipCamconEmanage BlueEmanage UltimateHyrda EMSThe Boomslang harness is available for the Camcon and both Emanage's.Second, internals and FI re not in the Poor Man's mot thread because they're not cheap. yeah i realized how this thread started. we are mostly go big or go home kind of people lol. ill check out those other options you tossed out there.Quote, originally posted by kevera »I kinda don't understand what your looking for???There are stand alone ecu's that you can use with the GT.There are a few f/i options,just look under Toyota 2zz.As for internals,there are options,just not listed here. Check out Monkeywrench racing,this will at least give you an idea. what i would like to have is the ability to build my own tune for the car. I know with domestics (mostly GMs) HP Tuners you just plug into the OBDII port and write on the existing PCM. no chipping, no piggy backing. and i can change any perameter i wish in the software. I know ruthie (my girlfriend) more than likely will not want to do anything too massive (by that i mean have a low 12 second car) but we want to see just what is capable with this motor.

[Petrucci914]

Welcome to the world of imports. Their computers are tighter than a ....well......you catch my drift.With a lot of Domestics you can plug right in and go nuts and gain lots of power. Not with imports. You're pretty much stuck with FI, Internals, Add-On Mods, and then getting a Piggyback and getting it tuned professionally.

[impalamike3800]

Quote, originally posted by Petrucci914 »Welcome to the world of imports. Their computers are tighter than a ....well......you catch my drift.With a lot of Domestics you can plug right in and go nuts and gain lots of power. Not with imports. You're pretty much stuck with FI, Internals, Add-On Mods, and then getting a Piggyback and getting it tuned professionally.haha yeah domestic is so damn nice to work on. ive spent 4k and run low 13s high 12s on pump gas and 8 pounds .

[4azdmunky]

Quote, originally posted by BlueCrush »I have never heard of the Gold version of GReddy, found some info here: http://www.msprotege.com/forum...14417yeah i guess it was only released in japan, however as you noticed from the PDF, its nothign more than a modded blue.I understandt that the ultimate has the autotune feature already included.

[ClunkClunk]

Once I get rid of the Regal, I'm going to miss having a tuner (DHP PowrTuner is what I have for my car).Impalamike, I think why you're getting so much confusion is that these guys are used to just swapping the PCM with a pre tuned unit, not flashing in tuning info with software.Since your Impala isn't black, yet you have an M90 I'm assuming you had an L36 and did a ZZP SS M90 kit?

[impalamike3800]

Quote, originally posted by SLORegal »Once I get rid of the Regal, I'm going to miss having a tuner (DHP PowrTuner is what I have for my car).Impalamike, I think why you're getting so much confusion is that these guys are used to just swapping the PCM with a pre tuned unit, not flashing in tuning info with software.Since your Impala isn't black, yet you have an M90 I'm assuming you had an L36 and did a ZZP SS M90 kit?yeah i went with the SSM90 setup because originally it was a heads/cam car and i have ported L36 heads and really did not want to get rid of them but wanted more power. and I dont know how long youve had your buick but remember the old days of DHP PCMs that were $299? lol. its a young market and it will grow and prices will drop and there will be vibes running 8s. now me personally if it were my vibe i would have gotten the AWD version, deleted the front transfer case, and tossed in the 2ZZ-GE.

[Sublimewind]

I can't claim to know anything about the Vibes ECU, but have a look on OpenECU.org (IIRC) they might be able to steer you in the right direction... And unless you are planning on building the motor, you just aren't going to be happy.. it's just not a "perfomance" car...