Lowering

[WaveAction]

well as some know..im lowering the vibe hopefully next weekend...ordered Tein Stechs from neverenoughauto.comnow im wondering a few things..where to get and whats the best camber kits to get for it..also was on tire rack and noticed these...are these compatible with a camber kit? or what do these do exactly? http://www.tirerack.com/suspen...+Bluealso is there any other necessary parts i'd need in order to have the set up perfect..

[hambox]

I've wondered this as well about that kit on Tire Rack. Since the Teins dump the car a good bit lower than the Eibachs that Tire Rack carries, it def raises question about that.

[WaveAction]

yea..on tirerack aswell as other sites they usually only have the eibach camber kit..neverenoughauto.com has the progress camber kit and is usually $10 more in price..so im trying to figure out whats the best route to go with..im sure company wise it wouldnt matter..just seeing if anyone here has recommendations for cheaper prices or a better vendor or anything

[Raven]

You shouldn't need a camber kit in most cases even with S-Techs.

[scherry2]

what he said.

[WaveAction]

well i know of people who do have them..and would like them aswell so i dont destroy my rubber and mess up my tire treads..specially once i get 18"

[hambox]

I'd just have the springs installed and ask the place that puts them on if you need a camber kit. If you do, a week or so of riding around without the kit won't affect your tires that much. You should wait at least a week so the car will settle. A friend of mine had some s-tech springs put on his Scion TC and never even took it back for adjustment, but no (visible) adverse wear as of yet several thousand miles later.

[WaveAction]

ya i dont have shops do my car..i do everything myself lol..i never had the camber kit for my sunfire either and didnt notice tire wear..but we'll see..it's one of those things i could quickly install if i do need too later on

[hambox]

They are cheap enough too, so I wouldn't sweat it. Tirerack seems to indicate they only have 1 blue and 1 red left, and they aren't sold in pairs. Probably another vendor out there though, but I bet Tirerack won't get more of those.

[WaveAction]

im just curious to what the caps actually are for..

[Sublimewind]

Wave, to answer your question first, the cover kit is just that, covers to "dress up" an actual camber plate kit... nothing more... Overall, a camber plate kit would be better, over simple camber bolts.... I've had camber bolts SLIP on me in hard cornering maneuvers, luckily I was in a parking lot and it's wasn't a bad event... Never-the-less, i had to limp my car home 20mi with one of the tires rubbing my fender lip when hitting bumps... A camber plate replaces the typical "top hat" of a strut, with the plates you see that allow for more camber adjustment. They are a MUCH more solid way of mounting a strut, instead of the mount itself molded into a rubber mount, everything is replaced with machined aluminum... They also usually use a pillow ball mount, which keeps binding as bay and is again a more solid mounting point. A lot of times, they cannot be used with a normal strut though, because the tophat is also the upper spring mount, but with coilovers, they come with an upper spring mount and you can use any caber plate you choose..

[WaveAction]

alright thanks for the explination..now you mentioned the camber plate kit, that would be better then just the camber bolt(that could possibly slip)..where would i get a kit like this, any links or specific companies to look for?

[Sublimewind]

Quote, originally posted by WaveAction »alright thanks for the explination..now you mentioned the camber plate kit, that would be better then just the camber bolt(that could possibly slip)..where would i get a kit like this, any links or specific companies to look for?Well the problem with camber plates, is that you need to use a coilover strut with them, i'm not sure of ANY stock type strut set-ups that work with camber plates.. the spring is FAR to big for them to get used with the stock set-up... that and the springs themselves "seat" differently for coilovers VS stock struts.. coilovers springs sit vertically, where a stock strut passes through a stock spring (at least on the front) at an angle.. So, with a stock suspension, you are bound to using camber bolts... BUT if you get ones that are properly designed, you shouldn't have any problems... I must note here, cause I didn't put it in my last post: The camber bolts I used, were not of the highest quality and the rear end on a Subaru (at least mine) didn't have ANY camber adjustment, so my camber bolts may have fit, but MAY NOT have been the proper bolts for the car.... I got lucky, because my aligment was fixed as soon as I put the stock bolts back in...