ksport are in....

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:22 am

ok... most of you know I passed on the hotckiss springs and now I upgraded to coilovers.It took me longer than i thought but then again i had to modify celica coils to fit my AWD vibe. Sorry it's dirty... it's been raining... Deal with it.Enough talk...PhotosPritty:BEFORE:AFTER:Photo of the rears:stock ride height was 28.5 inches in the backnow it's 25.5inches in the back

bull77 · Post by **bull77** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:36 am

awesome -- looks really good and so shiny.....

BlueCrush · Post by **BlueCrush** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:52 am

Nice drop. How do they ride?

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:16 am

right now they are set to full on stiff... so they are a bit bouncy... tomorrow I will set them to full soft and see how soft they ride.

Raivis · Post by **Raivis** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:26 am

so what do you have to modify??? did you only have to modify them bc its awd??? looks sweet

kevera · Post by **kevera** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:13 am

Dude,it still looks like a monster truck Looks good man.

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:38 am

Quote, originally posted by Raivis Â»so what do you have to modify??? did you only have to modify them bc its awd??? looks sweetI had to enlarge the holes on the front mounts. The celica mounts are 3mm smaller than the vibe. So i had to drill out the holes to make them fit.The backs bolted right up, but i did need to use the tophat from the stock strut to mount the rear coils. The fronts didn't need any parts from the old struts.Quote, originally posted by kevera Â»Dude,it still looks like a monster truck Looks good man. The photos don't do it justice. It's LOW... my wife even noticed when she followed me over to the shop today to get the alinement done she said she thought my exhaust was dragging because of how much of a difference there is.

scherry2 · Post by **scherry2** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:29 am

cool! it looks nice and low.

WaveAction · Post by **WaveAction** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:30 am

looks good man, how much did those run you compared to the hotchkiss??

damronjr · Post by **damronjr** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:59 am

Still looks high to me, even after a 3" drop! Before looked like a freakin monster truck, though! Didn't know the AWDs were that high!

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:26 am

looks really good. but you need some lower profile tires/17" rims or something

02csnow · Post by **02csnow** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:59 am

Lookin good. Just like a few people have said, in the pics it does not look like it lowered it that much. But the tape measure does not lie. You should get some 17"s with low pros like Mavrik said.

WaveAction · Post by **WaveAction** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:06 am

i'd say go 18"s with the coil over kit he has..but 17"s could work aswell

Toasted7 · Post by **Toasted7** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:18 pm

I couldn't agree with Mavrik more...Looks good!

Sublimewind · Post by **Sublimewind** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:33 am

I'm diggin it.... I'm actually considering Ksports for my Subie... They are quite cheap for what you get... Would you mind telling what you paid? ~1000$ correct?

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:15 am

thoughts on the speck sheet... they seem a bit off if you ask me

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:16 am

Quote, originally posted by WaveAction Â»looks good man, how much did those run you compared to the hotchkiss??the coils are about 8 times more expensive than the springs...

Sublimewind · Post by **Sublimewind** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:33 am

Those specs do seem a bit odd... 8.8* of caster... -2.1 and -2.3* of camber... seems quite out of range.. Question, did you take it to just any place? Not everyone is adept in aligning coilover cars... even IF they say they can do it..

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:36 am

I know what you meen the caster isn't much of an issue as long as they are close to each other... which they aren't there is almost a 2degrees difference. It is pulling slightly to the right which that would account for it.What i want to know is why the moved the caster in the first place it was within speck before they did the adjustment?I was thinking about getting these for the rearand these for the frontshttp://www.horsepowerfreaks.co...Fronthttp://www.hotchkis.net/p-682-....aspx to help with the rear camber issueThe fronts i have the adjustable pillowball mount to get it in speck if i want to mess with it

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:19 am

i just realized something.. Am I the first AWD drop with Ksports? i know others have done it with teins coilovers... but i don't think anyone has done it with ksports LOL

WaveAction · Post by **WaveAction** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:57 am

i never heard of ksports...do they do springs aswell or just coilovers?

Tonyk27 · Post by **Tonyk27** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:05 am

Vary nice looks good. What size are your rims and tires?

Sublimewind · Post by **Sublimewind** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:25 am

I would be calling places, maybe performance shops and see if you can find someone that does this often... 2 degrees off on the caster... wow... and the change, 3.6 to 6.6 and 3.1 to 8.8.. What does it look like from the pillow ball standpoint?(looking down on them) Is the travel maxed out on any of the corners? Ot, your Vibe would look killer with my 17" Leggy GT wheels and tires BTW..

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:49 am

called the shop today. talked with the manager.Apparently the guy who did the alinement didn't know that the car's rear camber was adjustable so that wasn't done. He also wasn't told the car had adjustable pillowball mounts on the top of the coilover so that wasn't adjusted either.The caster he was scratching his head about as well because of the numbers that the machine read before the adjustment. He thinks his machine malfunctioned or something.I set up an appointment on friday morning with the shop manager. He will put the car back on the machine and him and I will realine the car to speck. free of charge.Quote, originally posted by WaveAction Â»i never heard of ksports...do they do springs aswell or just coilovers?for certain cars they do but not for the vibe or trixQuote, originally posted by Tonyk27 Â»Vary nice looks good. What size are your rims and tires?16" rims stock tires.

BlueCrush · Post by **BlueCrush** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:07 am

I was looking at pics #7 & #8. In pic#7 your ruler shows the top of your wheel at 23" but in pic #8 the ruler shows the top of your wheels at 22".

kevera · Post by **kevera** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:25 am

I wonder if these coilovers made your Vibe faster. PG 2 FTW

Sublimewind · Post by **Sublimewind** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:24 pm

Quote, originally posted by keithvibe Â»called the shop today. talked with the manager.Apparently the guy who did the alinement didn't know that the car's rear camber was adjustable so that wasn't done. He also wasn't told the car had adjustable pillowball mounts on the top of the coilover so that wasn't adjusted either.The caster he was scratching his head about as well because of the numbers that the machine read before the adjustment. He thinks his machine malfunctioned or something.I set up an appointment on friday morning with the shop manager. He will put the car back on the machine and him and I will realine the car to speck. free of charge.for certain cars they do but not for the vibe or trix16" rims stock tires.NICE.... that is what I thought, not everyone can deal with coilovers, it's as much art as it is science. Now, buy my Leggy GT 17"s and marvel in the hotness.... lol..

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:20 am

Quote, originally posted by kevera Â»I wonder if these coilovers made your Vibe faster. I don't know about making it faster but it does look faster... and i did get rid of some unwanted weight because the coils are lighter than the stock setup

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:32 am

ok new speck sheet. notice the caster is much better still not perfect but it's not adjustable.Also the rear camber isn't adjustable, just the toe is, so it looks like i will be buying thesehttp://www.sfxperformance.com/parts/EIB581270K.htm

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:56 am

after looking at the matrix manual there is a camber adjustment for the rearback to the shop

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:02 am

ok.... as they say... third times the charmgot it within speckNew sheet... and the car rides much better now.

kevera · Post by **kevera** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:03 am

Good news,you can drive in a straight line now.Glad it's all sorted out,can't wait to see them in a month.

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:07 am

I just set all the dampners to full soft and it rides about or softer than stock.Full on hard... (removed)... hit a bump and the car bounces lol

Sublimewind · Post by **Sublimewind** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:53 am

Flippin SWEET.... !!!!! Congratz..!!Now, buy my wheels... lol....

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Thu May 15, 2008 8:13 am

ok just an update for those who don't go to Matrix owners.Turns out the car wasn't "bouncing" when it was set to full stiff.the rear coil is too soft and bottoms out when i hit a bad bump.I have been jumping threw hoops trying to figure out what to do. I have had the rear axle weighed and sent that to ksport so they can do a custom spring rate for me.I have now been waiting for over a week for them to get back to me. Their customer service stinks!I made up my mine to take out the coils and sell them and go back to stock because of this issue.Although I love how the car looks it's not practical if i have to slow down for bad dips or swerve for every pothole.So tomorrow the coils will come out and I will sell them to a celica owner for which the coils were designed to ride on.

kevera · Post by **kevera** » Thu May 15, 2008 8:40 am

Buy the Teins bro

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Fri May 16, 2008 4:29 am

back to stock The guys at the shop where i got the alinement said if i bring the car back they will have to kill me LOL

kevera · Post by **kevera** » Fri May 16, 2008 4:50 am

Quote, originally posted by kevera Â»Buy the Teins bro

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Fri May 16, 2008 5:00 am

Quote, originally posted by kevera Â» give me the money broit's a sad day I went from thisTo this:

Sublimewind · Post by **Sublimewind** » Fri May 16, 2008 5:56 am

Holy crap, you sure you didn't put some F-150 struts on there... that thing looks LIFTED... WoW.... Something maybe to consider, give Ground Control a call, talk to them about getting a set of coil sleeves designed for the car (they may have them for the Matrix and/or vibe already) and mate them with KYB AGX struts... I know that is one of the more budget minded set-up for the WRX guys and in the end, KILLS on the street/track... and won't break the bank...

kevera · Post by **kevera** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:06 am

Quote, originally posted by keithvibe Â»give me the money broI'll give you $50.How much are the Tein's&are you selling the Ksports on newcelica.

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:21 am

lol.. you already owe me 50.00 teins are about 1300... I am selling them on newcelica.org

kevera · Post by **kevera** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:26 am

Quote, originally posted by keithvibe Â»lol.. you already owe me 50.00 True dat!So I guess your ridin monster truck style to Grand Rapids,eh.

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